So you are saying that your body is the body of your parents?
At what precise moment did it become an independent (exclusive) entity?
I asked first. So please answer my question before I answer your question.
I already answered your question.
I’d guess that the development of a child from birth to adulthood encompasses an I that must become also a we. From the protestant reformation down to now, the process seems to have been historically reversed. Currently, both politics and religion are in turmoil over I vs we.
A sane resolution to these problems would be I and we as seen as equally important. That’s not the way things are now. This is why I think Western civilization is in its adolescence.
No. At least not precisely enough.
You made an assertion without anything to back it up and so precision is not necessary (non precise refutation is allowed in such circumstances).
I don’t think religion or politics are in turmoil or at least I don’t see any evidence of this turmoil outside of specific individuals.
I can guarantee you, that, genetically resp. biologically, the „birth“ of the “I” is the fertilization.
That does not make it an exclusive “I” independent of the “we”.
It does. Note that I said: “genetically resp. biologically”.
So the “I” you talk about is free from outside control, is not subject to another’s authority and/or doesn’t depend on another for livelihood or sustanance (making it independent).
Like I said: “genetically resp. biologically”. Yes.
Genetically, (biologically), the I is always an aspect of the we. It is independent to some extent from a self POV; but even that has we dependency to some extent. My I is a product of shared genetic and environmental influences. There exists no such animal as an isolate self.
Your genetic code and program is your genetic code and program and only your genetic code and program.
No. It came from my parents, then developed toward its own.
No. I am saying the genetic code is your genetic code, and you are saying your genetic code is the code of your parents, and that is false, because your parents have two different genetic codes, and your genetic code is even then your genetic code (namely because of the recombination), if your parents were twins. Genetically (biologically) there is indeed individuality. When the fertilization has happened, then the recombination takes place, and the result is never the same result that your parents got at their fertilizations. Your genetic code is indeed inidividual. Each genetic code is an indivdual one. That is what I am saying, and it is true.
When you say to an geneticist (biologist) that your genetic code is not yours but that of your parents, then they will laugh at you. A recombined genetic code has it roots in two other genetic codes, that is right, but that does not mean that it is the same genetic code. It is a different one.
You are confusing genetics/biology with sociology/psychology.
Evolution is based on variation (mutation included), reproduction, and reproduction interest (formerly known as “selection”). No genetic code is the gentic code of the parents, othrwise there would be no eveolution.
So my parents did not pass on any genes to me and I began as a blank slate?
That is nonsense and not what I was talking about. Do you not know what recombination means? If yes, then we can finish our “discussion”. Each genetic code and thus each genetic program is an individual one. That does not contradict the fact that the roots are the genetic codes of your parents. So they have to do with your genetic code, of course, but they are not the same.
Why is that so difficult to understand for you?
So you have misunderstood me, Ierrellus. It seems that you do not know what the genetic recombination means.
We all have parents - father and mother -, and their genetic codes influence our genetic codes, but that does not mean that they are the same. And if something is not the same, then it is different, regardless how much, it is different. Our genetic codes are different from the genetic codes of our parents because of the genetic recombination.
We are kin to our parents, and even more to our siblings, but we are not them.