I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

For intuitive and critical discussions, from spirituality to theological doctrines. Fair warning: because the subject matter is personal, moderation is strict.

Moderator: Dan~

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby James S Saint » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:13 am

jerkey wrote:Eating the flesh is a metaphor for the spirit. People of Jesus time did not understand the spirit.

Ummm...
Try reversing that thought and then consider the probabilities (considering who wrote the scriptures to begin with).
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Amid the lack of certainty, put faith in the wiser to believe.
Devil's Motto: Make it look good, safe, innocent, and wise.. until it is too late to choose otherwise.

The Real God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
.
James S Saint
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 25976
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:05 pm

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby WendyDarling » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:47 am

So few understand any of what matters most it's almost unbelievable. Christ was supposed to help folks believe in God and was an epic failure then and onwards. His very own apostles lacked belief in his being while he was in the flesh twice standing near them. No joke that Christians are easily hatable with all their lack of beliefs. Christ is their God, but who is Christ's God? It's ridiculousness to its core.
I AM OFFICIALLY IN HELL!

I live my philosophy, it's personal to me and people who engage where I live establish an unspoken dynamic, a relationship of sorts, with me and my philosophy.

Cutting folks for sport is a reality for the poor in spirit. I myself only cut the poor in spirit on Tues., Thurs., and every other Sat.
User avatar
WendyDarling
Heroine
 
Posts: 7097
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2010 8:52 am
Location: Hades

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby surreptitious57 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:55 am


Christianity has to be the most malleable of all the major religions
A MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE : IT DOES NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS OPEN
surreptitious57
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1931
Joined: Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:05 am

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:38 pm

Maniacal Mongoose wrote:So few understand any of what matters most it's almost unbelievable. Christ was supposed to help folks believe in God and was an epic failure then and onwards. His very own apostles lacked belief in his being while he was in the flesh twice standing near them. No joke that Christians are easily hatable with all their lack of beliefs. Christ is their God, but who is Christ's God? It's ridiculousness to its core.


I really don't think you know what christ was supposed to do if you think he was supposed to get people to believe in God. He healed the sick, tended to the downtrodden and taught very important things that did not require belief in God. The church was melded with the government at the time. They had no trouble believing in God, and probably believed god to be every bit as bad as what they saw all around them and as taught by the church at the time which was so faulty they branded christ a heretic and a blasphemer.

Jesus christ did actual important work.
Are we gonna fight or are you planning on boring me to death?
User avatar
The Eternal Warrior
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2530
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:26 am

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby Ultimate Philosophy 1001 » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:34 pm

jerkey wrote:Eating the flesh is a metaphor for the spirit. People of Jesus time did not understand the spirit. They still don't


trogdor
User avatar
Ultimate Philosophy 1001
BANNED
 
Posts: 8312
Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:57 pm

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:49 pm

Random Factor wrote:
Maniacal Mongoose wrote:So few understand any of what matters most it's almost unbelievable. Christ was supposed to help folks believe in God and was an epic failure then and onwards. His very own apostles lacked belief in his being while he was in the flesh twice standing near them. No joke that Christians are easily hatable with all their lack of beliefs. Christ is their God, but who is Christ's God? It's ridiculousness to its core.


I really don't think you know what christ was supposed to do if you think he was supposed to get people to believe in God. He healed the sick, tended to the downtrodden and taught very important things that did not require belief in God. The church was melded with the government at the time. They had no trouble believing in God, and probably believed god to be every bit as bad as what they saw all around them and as taught by the church at the time which was so faulty they branded christ a heretic and a blasphemer.

Jesus christ did actual important work.


Honestly RF, have you ever read the "Lords Prayer"????!!!!

Are you folks bolder now that Pence is VP and thinks it doesn't matter what you say about gays or do to them because God is eternally damning them…

All the fucking idiots are going to crawl out of the woodwork now
Ecmandu
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 7127
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:22 am

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Nov 19, 2016 6:00 pm

Random Factor wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:RF, not only do you write walls of text, which are indicative of someone who's not wise, you claim teaching is an attack even though you presumably try to teach...

RF, I knew from your first post with me, that you talk bullshit out of your ass... And you continue to prove it


Explain how my walls of text are unwise. If you can not or if you will not, then you are wrong and need to stop opening your mouth fallaciously.


This is a joke post right… I knew you'd ask that, that's why I said the part about "You claim teaching is an attack even though you presumably try to teach"

I'm not going to type 100 pages to refute your non referring bullshit when I can start with one sentence.

That's the difference between smart and stupid, wise and unwise…

You think walls of text make you smart, they make you an idiot.

Let me explain something to you.

When I was younger, I used to think that my 100 page book was brilliant… it wasn't…

Now I'm down to a half page
Ecmandu
ILP Legend
 
Posts: 7127
Joined: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:22 am

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby Meno_ » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:12 pm

James S Saint wrote:
jerkey wrote:Eating the flesh is a metaphor for the spirit. People of Jesus time did not understand the spirit.

Ummm...
Try reversing that thought and then consider the p
robabilities (considering who wrote the scriptures to begin with).


Yes that is interesting. The logical probability of reversible fact is really a long shot: which proves the level of intelligence required to predict it's future course. How could have they know: The ancient Hebrew scholars were acquainted with Plato's De Amina, after all they were under Roman domination.

So the reversibility was based on the presumption that some day faith will eclipse knowledge.

But they couldn't have predicted another reversal, could they.
Meno_
Philosopher
 
Posts: 3511
Joined: Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:39 am
Location: Mysterium Tremendum

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:36 pm

Ecmandu wrote:
Random Factor wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:RF, not only do you write walls of text, which are indicative of someone who's not wise, you claim teaching is an attack even though you presumably try to teach...

RF, I knew from your first post with me, that you talk bullshit out of your ass... And you continue to prove it


Explain how my walls of text are unwise. If you can not or if you will not, then you are wrong and need to stop opening your mouth fallaciously.


This is a joke post right… I knew you'd ask that, that's why I said the part about "You claim teaching is an attack even though you presumably try to teach"

I'm not going to type 100 pages to refute your non referring bullshit when I can start with one sentence.

That's the difference between smart and stupid, wise and unwise…

You think walls of text make you smart, they make you an idiot.

Let me explain something to you.

When I was younger, I used to think that my 100 page book was brilliant… it wasn't…

Now I'm down to a half page


I said that some would view teaching as an attack, not that it was in all cases. You took what I said and applied it as a blanket cover for all and tried to make it sound stupid.

Not all walls of text are brilliant, but mine are. If there were simpler ways of saying the same things without it being too ambiguous and too able to be taken a variety of ways to appease the spoiled, I would gladly simplify and reduce.

As it is, you've not gone into depth on the subject and I doubt that you even could without showing your intention and nature. Walls of text, for you, would be unwise and show too many incongruities, too many inconsistencies since your words would show, much the same they do when reduced and simplified, a lack of good intent.
Last edited by The Eternal Warrior on Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Are we gonna fight or are you planning on boring me to death?
User avatar
The Eternal Warrior
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2530
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:26 am

Re: I am tired of pretending. I am Jesus.

Postby The Eternal Warrior » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:40 pm

jerkey wrote:
James S Saint wrote:
jerkey wrote:Eating the flesh is a metaphor for the spirit. People of Jesus time did not understand the spirit.

Ummm...
Try reversing that thought and then consider the p
robabilities (considering who wrote the scriptures to begin with).


Yes that is interesting. The logical probability of reversible fact is really a long shot: which proves the level of intelligence required to predict it's future course. How could have they know: The ancient Hebrew scholars were acquainted with Plato's De Amina, after all they were under Roman domination.

So the reversibility was based on the presumption that some day faith will eclipse knowledge.

But they couldn't have predicted another reversal, could they.



They word eclipse shows that they at least believed faith and knowledge would have equal ground somewhere in the future, as in an eclipse, both the sun and the moon, or whatever celestial entity came into play in creating an eclipse, do share the same space and equally play into the effect.

The way you speak, you make it sound as though they believed that faith would dwarf knowledge and knowledge would be disregarded, when faith is filled with knowledge and understanding. Faith is never without knowledge, even when it has to fly 'solo' and 'blind' for a bit.
Are we gonna fight or are you planning on boring me to death?
User avatar
The Eternal Warrior
Philosopher
 
Posts: 2530
Joined: Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:26 am

Previous

Return to Religion and Spirituality



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users