Technology will ultimately lead to our undoing.
Dan~ wrote:Technology will ultimately lead to our undoing.
Penis's will ultimately lead to rape?
No, technology is not to blame.
The people who control the technology [these being the corporations and the governments] -- are really to blame.
Deusexmachina wrote:Why is it necessarily true that technology would lead to our undoing?
If we look to the past, to lesser times. There is no paradise there.
Computers are an evolutionary tool. Like the twig to the chimpanzee or the damn to the beaver? Does the twig lessen the chimpness of the chimp, the damn lessen the animal nature of the beaver?
Does using your computer to post on this forum not stimulate and entice your mind and your emotions? Emotions, intellect, human nature itself can only be enhanced through CAE, through computer assisted experiences.
Virtual environments further our knowledge of read ones. Why else do you think computer modelling and simulations are so useful. From chimp to casual office worker, there is no animal that has such a fanciful relationship with the "natural" rhythms of the Erde.
Deusexmachina wrote:While I donâ€™t think anyone here is announcing the approach of paradise it is true that many processes, many tasks have become easier. The amount of physical required within society has diminished considerably, and many tasks that were once required manual labour are now fully automatic. Working hours as compared to last century have decreased, although it is hard to see how they could fall further still without further technological revolutions.Deusexmachina wrote:
I'm well aware of how technology has "made things easier" This easiness is why people cling so hard to progress. No, I dont want to walk to a water well. Yes, I like taps. But that is not my point. My point is this. . .
industrial age (fast)
information age (faster) Things are pretty easy, ok.
the age your grandchildren will know (TOO FAST)
The great momentum is now. The BLUR is to come.
Your aguement states that faster times aren't so bad, so too fast won't be
too hard to handle either. Have it your way, but your kids won't thank you.Deusexmachina wrote:Great strawman argument. Iâ€™m so â€œsureâ€ that every technology advance to date has been the result of evil military R&D. So would you care to tell us how the Toyota Prius Hybrid electric car was derived from American ICBMs? Or how the invention of the machine gun resulted in my Lexmark all-in-one.Deusexmachina wrote:
I was speaking of the internet and virtual reality, both of which the goverment has had a big hand in.Deusexmachina wrote:Another strawman argument. Technology appeals to us because it does benefit us medically. Immortality may be an ignorant pipe dream, but I for one would like to spend the majority of my life in a reasonable state of health.Deusexmachina wrote:
I was saying that whenever progress is referred to, its always the medical miracles that are brought up. People are sucker for it. So they assume that all technology is good as a result. Rarely do people talk about how living in technical age has a negative impact on the mind, or the decreasing scenarios for face to face activity, which is socially healthy and on the decline.Deusexmachina wrote:Children (including myself) do and have spent the vast majority of their time in front of the television screen watching TV or playing Xbox, or infront of their PCs surfing the net, playing PC games, watching and listening to MP3/5s, DivX and posting to forums such as these.Deusexmachina wrote:
Ever notice how time seems to disappear when playing games. Now imagine being immersed inside a video game. It would be like a casino with no clocks or sunlight for time reckoning. And the computer is making decisions faster than you can track. Lots of room for manipulation.Deusexmachina wrote:And I can tell you this, if anything it has enhanced my appreciation of nature (camping, bushwalking, boating and 4Wding Amongst my favourite of activities), and judging by the number of young people also engaged in such (the vast majority) it hasnâ€™t hampered their appreciation either. How else does one explain the rising popularity of environmentalism? I donâ€™t suppose yesteryears materialistic baby boomers have had a change of heartDeusexmachina wrote:
And yet the air, land, sea are still being posioned.Deusexmachina wrote:What solutions do you offer? I would like to hear them. The world really is in need of solutions and positive action, now more than ever!
where did we go wrong?
Our only hope now is their really is an armagedon.
Fent wrote:Sushil, I enjoyed reading your comments. I whole-heartedly agree in regards to excess consumerism. When will people learn that buying new clothes or new anything does not lead to happiness. As long as the marketers keep bombarding people with advertisements, then it will continue up until there are no natural resources left.
One of my goals on this rock is to spread the message about the destructive effects of the consumer society. Not many people listen, but one or two do occasionally. Good to know there are some people out there who think the same.
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