I challenge you, forum members.

[Wonderer]

Your actions speak louder than words.

your words speak nothing.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Not just you, I want to thumb everyone's eyes in. The past, the present and the future generations.

I never implied I was innocent in the insults. I only said that your insults give you away.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

your words speak nothing.

Not a good comeback.

If they spoke nothing, you wouldn't be here.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

I speak; you don't listen.

Your actions speak louder than words.

[Wonderer]

Could you please tell me why all humans hate life or what?

[Kriswest]

should this not wait for the debate? Set the up the game.

[Wonderer]

:lol: should this not wait for the debate? Set the up the game.

I already tried to get it started... Its not rocket science....

Aidan, tell me why all humans hate life please.

Oh i see, this in the chamber of debate...

I don't think that there's enough subject matter to have a peoper debate.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Could you please tell me why all humans hate life or what?

You get hurt by life; you react to life.

It's very simple.

[Wonderer]

Could you please tell me why all humans hate life or what?

You get hurt by life; you react to life.

It's very simple.

Getting hurt by life is something that we all go through.

Just because you cannot recover doesn't mean we can't.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

So if someone beats you, you don't hate them?

The same can be applied to life; because that example is the same thing on a lower scale.

If you don't hate life; then you are not a living creature.

Also, I like how you say "you" - as if I was the only individual who experienced this.

Nice try, you solipsist.

[Wonderer]

So if someone beats you, you don't hate them?

no not really.

forgiveness is a funny thing.

It's not a social norm in any respect, yet it exists.

The same can be applied to life; because that example is the same thing on a lower scale.

why do you think life beats you?

Because it defeats your desires?

The desire to live forever?

The desire to live in utter bliss?

The desire to have anything and everything you want?

Let me tell you Aidan. If these are your desires, what makes them necessarily my desires.

Different things tend to make different people happy.

If your desires are unattainable then you should change your desires.

If you don't hate life; then you are not a living creature.

this is irrational because as i have already shown, what you said about life beating you and then you hating it is dependant not only on the issue of forgiveness and acceptance but also in the matter of "life beating you". How does life beat you? like i said, if it only beats your desires then you should change those desires.

To say that if i don't hate life then i am not alive is completely unjustified in this thread.

Also, I like how you say "you" - as if I was the only individual who experienced this.

Nice try, you solipsist.

So now i am wrong because i said "you"?

You're the only one here Aidan. You are the case study. I am talking about you versus the people arguing against you.

Can you please tell me why all humans hate life?

[Aidan_Mclaren]

no not really.

forgiveness is a funny thing.

It's not a social norm in any respect, yet it exists.

Strange, you must be one of the few people who say that. The other people are Christians - and we know what they're like...

By looking at the way you act to me, I highly doubt you forgive people if they hurt you.

why do you think life beats you?

Because it defeats your desires?

The desire to live forever?

The desire to live in utter bliss?

The desire to have anything and everything you want?

Let me tell you Aidan. If these are your desires, what makes them necessarily my desires.

Different things tend to make different people happy.

If your desires are unattainable then you should change your desires.

You hate life because it hurts you in so many ways you cannot possibly fathom.
Our desires are based on the same things, because we are living creatures.
"Different"? They're not really different apart from different variations of the same fundamental thing.

this is irrational because as i have already shown, what you said about life beating you and then you hating it is dependant not only on the issue of forgiveness and acceptance but also in the matter of "life beating you". How does life beat you? like i said, if it only beats your desires then you should change those desires.

To say that if i don't hate life then i am not alive is completely unjustified in this thread.

You have to work in life so that the pain isn't as overwhelming. You don't hate life? You don't hate a slavemaster whipping you in the back?
Hate is reaction to hurt. If you do not hate, you do not hurt, and therefore do not exist.

So now i am wrong because i said "you"?

You're the only one here Aidan. You are the case study. I am talking about you versus the people arguing against you.

Can you please tell me why all humans hate life?

The way you put it as if "I" were the only one going through this.

We all hate life because it hurts us.

If I punch you, you're not going to react hatefully to it?

[Wonderer]

Strange, you must be one of the few people who say that. The other people are Christians - and we know what they're like...

By looking at the way you act to me, I highly doubt you forgive people if they hurt you.

Just because i have shown no more forgiveness toward you (even though i am being perfectly civil), does not change the fact that forgiveness is another big flaw in your argument.

You even attacked Christianity... Interesting...

why do you think life beats you?

Because it defeats your desires?

The desire to live forever?

The desire to live in utter bliss?

The desire to have anything and everything you want?

Let me tell you Aidan. If these are your desires, what makes them necessarily my desires.

Different things tend to make different people happy.

If your desires are unattainable then you should change your desires.

You hate life because it hurts you in so many ways you cannot possibly fathom.

Can you came any of these ways in which life hurts me if there is such an unfathomable amount of them?

Our desires are based on the same things, because we are living creatures.

Living creatures that think differently.

"Different"? They're not really different apart from different variations of the same fundamental thing.

These variations include "hates life" and "doesn't hate life" among other things.

this is irrational because as i have already shown, what you said about life beating you and then you hating it is dependant not only on the issue of forgiveness and acceptance but also in the matter of "life beating you". How does life beat you? like i said, if it only beats your desires then you should change those desires.

To say that if i don't hate life then i am not alive is completely unjustified in this thread.

You have to work in life so that the pain isn't as overwhelming.

yep and you better get used to that. Do god and you might be able to relax.

You don't hate life? You don't hate a slavemaster whipping you in the back?

I could be happy being a vagabond... The slave master doesn't exist. You think it does, but ferraris only attract superficial girls anyway.

Hate is reaction to hurt.

i thought hurt was the reaction to hurt.

Hurt can also make yous tronger.

If i jam my thumb in a sliding door and hurt it, do i hate the door? no. do i hate life? no

If you do not hate, you do not hurt, and therefore do not exist.

Is this a fancy way of calling me a liar?

why cannot you admit that hate is not a necessary feeling towards life?

So now i am wrong because i said "you"?

You're the only one here Aidan. You are the case study. I am talking about you versus the people arguing against you.

Can you please tell me why all humans hate life?

The way you put it as if "I" were the only one going through this.

We all hate life because it hurts us.

If I punch you, you're not going to react hatefully to it?

Not really...

If i was in the right mood i would duke it out with you. I enjoy violence.

Besides that i might either ask you to stop or try and subdue you.

Why do i hafe to hate you?

It's not your fault that you hit me, because you hate me, and it's possible that your life is so hard that you have no choice but to direct hate ans violence at me...

Where does hate come in?

You sound like the Sith guy from Star Wars.

[Churro the Viscous]

I don't know about you guys, but I've come to the conclusion that Aidan is just a troll.
I don't think he believes half the shit he posts.
Just my 2 cents.
Good day.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Do you think this is a joke, you stupid child?

Do you actually think this is great material for humour? Knowing that you're fucked! Yeah, fucking hilarious...

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Just because i have shown no more forgiveness toward you (even though i am being perfectly civil), does not change the fact that forgiveness is another big flaw in your argument.

You even attacked Christianity... Interesting...

You "forgive" because it'll make you look like a big man.

Can you came any of these ways in which life hurts me if there is such an unfathomable amount of them?

So I haven't been talking to you before about this?

Yeah, OK...

Living creatures that think differently.

How?

variations include "hates life" and "doesn't hate life" among other things.

No, variations include "lying" or "being honest".

yep and you better get used to that. Do god and you might be able to relax.

And you get used to it? I suppose that's why you're here?

I could be happy being a vagabond... The slave master doesn't exist. You think it does, but ferraris only attract superficial girls anyway.

It was an generalised question. "You wouldn't hate a slave master hitting you in the back" was a question if the circumstance actually happened.

thought hurt was the reaction to hurt.

Hurt can also make yous tronger.

If i jam my thumb in a sliding door and hurt it, do i hate the door? no. do i hate life? no

Yes, you do. You only say you don't because you think you'll experience more pain as a result.

Hate is a reaction to hurt.

Is this a fancy way of calling me a liar?

why cannot you admit that hate is not a necessary feeling towards life?

It is not necessary; it just happens.
You being a liar could go without saying.

Not really...

If i was in the right mood i would duke it out with you. I enjoy violence.

Besides that i might either ask you to stop or try and subdue you.

Why do i hafe to hate you?

It's not your fault that you hit me, because you hate me, and it's possible that your life is so hard that you have no choice but to direct hate ans violence at me...

Where does hate come in?

You sound like the Sith guy from Star Wars.

So if I'm kicking you on the ground, smashing you in the face and stomach, you'll still goiing like violence then?

Wonderer, you're doing a pretty fine job at lying here.

[Churro the Viscous]

Do you think this is a joke, you stupid child?

Do you actually think this is great material for humour? Knowing that you're fucked! Yeah, fucking hilarious...

I think you're a joke.
Whether I'm fucked or not...well, I'm under the impression that I'm not, so, whatever.
But the shit you say...yeah, it might not be particularly funny, but I still can't take it seriously.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

I think you're a joke.

Obviously not if you're here...

Whether I'm fucked or not...well, I'm under the impression that I'm not, so, whatever.

You're not? So you're not in a tautological state of pain, nor destined for a state of unconsciousness?

But the shit you say...yeah, it might not be particularly funny, but I still can't take it seriously.

Do you actually think I want to take it seriously?

[Smears]

Aidan I challenge you to prove there's no meaning to life and that everyone's unhappy. I bet you can't do it.

[Churro the Viscous]

Aidan I challenge you to prove there's no meaning to life and that everyone's unhappy. I bet you can't do it.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Oh, but you can prove there's a meaning to life and that we're all "happy"?

Any point I make will invariably just come back to you saying that "where's the proof" ad infinitum, until I get fed up and leave. Meanwhile, you can have short relief that you scored "a victory" over my "idiocy".

I mean, really, you're pathetic.

[Churro the Viscous]

Oh, but you can prove there's a meaning to life and that we're all "happy"?

Who's trying to prove that?
I don't remember anyone saying, "We're all happy."
I don't think I said anything about a meaning to life.

[Wonderer]

Aidan calling me a liar over and over again doesn;'t make any logical sense.

Prove why am a liar and we might have a useful discussion.

Until then all you are doing is insulting people and calling them liars.

Prove why i am lying.

Prove why life must be so painful that you hate it.

Prove something and stop insulting people.

[Aidan_Mclaren]

Who's trying to prove that?
I don't remember anyone saying, "We're all happy."
I don't think I said anything about a meaning to life.

Noone. But could you if you wanted to?

Why did you quote Smears if you aren't trying to prove something?

[Churro the Viscous]

Smears wanted you to prove everyone's unhappy.
Then, you wanted me to prove that everyone IS happy.
Just because I don't think everyone is unhappy doesn't mean I think everyone is.
That's a false dichotome.
Silly goose.