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[turtle]

It seems to me that the mind perceives something very unusual about the nature of things....

I think it presents trouble when we try to define this.......

So I like the idea of just using the word god in a very general sense....

To give an example----today I was thinking about the nature of living things....It seems so strange and miraculous and I felt good...But I wouldn't be able to say more......

So I believe in god....in that way....

[anon]

Very nice post, Turtle.

[turtle]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term..it is better to look at the nature of things and then communicate about what we sense and feel..
so religion would return to a natural philosophy...
an example would be looking at things and realizing
how the atomic nature of matter works.....

[Ierrellus]

It seems to me that the mind perceives something very unusual about the nature of things....

I think it presents trouble when we try to define this.......

So I like the idea of just using the word god in a very general sense....

To give an example----today I was thinking about the nature of living things....It seems so strange and miraculous and I felt good...But I wouldn't be able to say more......

So I believe in god....in that way....

I do, too! The experience is more valuable than the description.

[anon]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term..it is better to look at the nature of things and then communicate about what we sense and feel..
so religion would return to a natural philosophy...
an example would be looking at things and realizing
how the atomic nature of matter works.....

Good point.

[The Paineful Truth]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term..it is better to look at the nature of things and then communicate about what we sense and feel..
so religion would return to a natural philosophy...
an example would be looking at things and realizing
how the atomic nature of matter works.....

But isn't what you were feeling simple the joy of living? Are you talking about that being your ultimate ideal or purpose for living, or do you anthropomorphize or deify it......or???

[turtle]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term..it is better to look at the nature of things and then communicate about what we sense and feel..
so religion would return to a natural philosophy...
an example would be looking at things and realizing
how the atomic nature of matter works.....

But isn't what you were feeling simple the joy of living? Are you talking about that being your ultimate ideal or purpose for living, or do you anthropomorphize or deify it......or???

tpt it doesnt have to do with any purpose for living..and i dont deify it.....but i think it is as much god as anything else....

[Humpty]

i think feces is god

[Jayson]

Humpty...come off it.
That is just a crap post because you're ornery or some such.
Actually engage usefully, like I know you can when you're not bent, or don't post.

[Humpty]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term...

uhhh, in the context of this thread, you're the prick and i'm following the rules.

[Humpty]

is it really beyond you people how ridiculous it is to just say "let's not define that word"?
am i the only one that sees that?
i can't believe that.

if a word doesn't have a definition, it is useless.
you can't use it, it doesn't refer to anything, nothing at all.
if god is undefined, then "god is feces" means just as much as "god is nature"

[The Paineful Truth]

is it really beyond you people how ridiculous it is to just say "let's not define that word"?
am i the only one that sees that?
i can't believe that.

if a word doesn't have a definition, it is useless.
you can't use it, it doesn't refer to anything, nothing at all.
if god is undefined, then "god is feces" means just as much as "god is nature"

Yeah, but who said that?

[Humpty]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term...

am i the only person that reads threads?

[Jayson]

No, but you are the only person breaking adhom rules and acting like a jerk about it.
Good job. Another warning. *sigh*

[Ierrellus]

"Anything we say about God is a lie."--Meister Eckardt

[The Paineful Truth]

when writing about god it is best not to define that term..it is better to look at the nature of things and then communicate about what we sense and feel..
so religion would return to a natural philosophy...
an example would be looking at things and realizing
how the atomic nature of matter works.....

But isn't what you were feeling simple the joy of living? Are you talking about that being your ultimate ideal or purpose for living, or do you anthropomorphize or deify it......or???

tpt it doesnt have to do with any purpose for living..and i dont deify it.....but i think it is as much god as anything else....

Sorry, I think you're dodging the question.

[Jayson]

I read that response as, 'Yes, the joy of living is as good as any god to me. Though I don't diefy it, or require a purpose for life from it.'

[The Paineful Truth]

I read that response as, 'Yes, the joy of living is as good as any god to me. Though I don't diefy it, or require a purpose for life from it.'

Ok, ultimate ideal, purpose, reward or satisfaction.... I mean, we are talking "god" here, or is this a game determined by minuscule quibbles and nths of an inch?

[turtle]

i dont think this sense/feeling has to do with any joy of living....i am depressed. i do not see much joy in my life....and i look around and see a lot of bad stuff....but as i am teaching kids about nature and science the mysteries are still there and i find them miraculous......

[Ierrellus]

i dont think this sense/feeling has to do with any joy of living....i am depressed. i do not see much joy in my life....and i look around and see a lot of bad stuff....but as i am teaching kids about nature and science the mysteries are still there and i find them miraculous......

If depression can be alleviated by exercize and nuitrition, it does not have to become a doom and gloom assessment of the universe. It's a matter of taking care of business, unless, of course, you've been dealt a genetic bad hand. Even that, however, often yields to honest caring. As I learned from reading and friends, you don't have the luxury of having negative thoughts. Your friends should be supportive.

[turtle]

i dont think this sense/feeling has to do with any joy of living....i am depressed. i do not see much joy in my life....and i look around and see a lot of bad stuff....but as i am teaching kids about nature and science the mysteries are still there and i find them miraculous......

If depression can be alleviated by exercize and nuitrition, it does not have to become a doom and gloom assessment of the universe. It's a matter of taking care of business, unless, of course, you've been dealt a genetic bad hand. Even that, however, often yields to honest caring. As I learned from reading and friends, you don't have the luxury of having negative thoughts. Your friends should be supportive.

ierrellus---i mentioned the depression for full disclosure....for a long time my world view has been negative....mostly because of losses that we all suffer and the way people treat each other.....but i still sense something very strange out there that is beyond my understanding...

[Amorphos]

I got a switch that when I flick it on it makes life alright, I feel a warmth and something that is more than what there is. The switch doesn’t exist but god does.

God is something that is not just in my head, maybe the only thing.

He is not male, as then he would need to be female or be lacking, so he is androgynous but as without sex at all.

I guess god is [in/] each and every thing, and is not [in/] each and every thing, the contradiction is not real its just the means by which we nail him to the cross.

..though he is not a him, nor a person, nor not etc etc etc

[Jayson]

Turtle, are you referring to the ambiguous god sense; the sense of pressence beyond you that is majestic, yet remains undefined and unknown?

[turtle]

Turtle, are you referring to the ambiguous god sense; the sense of pressence beyond you that is majestic, yet remains undefined and unknown?

yes stumpy...........and it happens whenever i think about the origin of matter/energy or the origin of life......

[Jayson]

Gotchya.
In a word; awe.
Cool.