aletheia, I’m still waiting for you to respond to this challenge—unless you are for all practical purposes, at least, interchangeable with Fixed Cross, in which case I refer you to my last post from November 6.
I contend that valuation is interpretation: interpretation of something (and be it oneself) as valuable to something (someone!) else. (To say that something is valuable to itself is nonsense, by the way.) In fact, valuation is probably identical with interpretation: inasmuch as interpretation is always valuation, is always interpretation in terms of value (e.g., an interpreter who translates a word from a foreign language into a word his employer may understand: in which context understanding is considered valuable). As such, valuation is will to power, an act of the will to power—as I already argued 1.5 years ago here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100412100113AAQSots.
But as you may see, this note is from 1883. The “subjects” he mentions in that second quote from 1887, for example, need not be organic.
But on page 1 of this thread, you said:
There are only two alternatives: either something was always there, or it came from nothing (which is technically saying the same thing, by the way). You simply replace a God That has always existed with a God That “created Himself from nothing”…
Well, first off, I don’t think it can be explained (to say that it emerged out of nothing is no more an explanation than to say that it always existed—see above), and second, the notion of “subjects that will” is subject to Nietzsche’s critique of the concept “subject”:
“If the innermost essence of being is will to power, if pleasure is every increase of power, displeasure every feeling of not being able to resist and dominate; may we not then posit pleasure and displeasure as cardinal facts? Is will possible without these two oscillations of Yes and No? But who feels pleasure?.. But who wants power?.. Absurd question, if the essence is itself power-will and consequently feelings of pleasure and displeasure! Nonetheless: opposites, obstacles are needed; therefore, relatively, encroaching units…” (Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 693, entire.)
This may be a good occasion to start reading a book I recently acquired. It’s titled The Quantum Nietzsche.
I understand perfectly well that the source of all metaphysics is weakness!
Something that you obviously avoid to think of like the dog avoids the wolf.
Aristotle was not so true. They both, Aristotle and Plato were offering things that didn’t belong to them. Copy-cats. I didn’t even read anything from them about metaphysics. One must save his eyes for better things.
I wasn’t talking about the content of Aristotelian metaphysics. I was talking about the meaning of the term “metaphysics” in Aristotelianism. Nietzsche’s doctrine of the will to power is metaphysical in that sense: it’s a teaching about existence as a whole.
Nietzsche in the teaching of the ER clearly says there are centers of energy and combinations of those centers, and he clearly denies anything “whole”.
There is a stupid chaos from which fckn stars are born!
Nietzche wasn’t perfect. He had some points though, which some people can find useful.
We shouldn’t look at only a man when we are dreaming and forming ideas.
I don’t think Nietzche’s goal was to guide the world or provide a system like that.
Religious figures would like everyone on the planet to follow their ideology word for word,
in hopes that that would cause some sort of eutopia. But N didn’t do that. So when someone
tries to get that out of Nietzche, an ‘ontology’, they will have to make most of it up themselves.
“One is necessary, one is a piece of fatefulness, one belongs to the whole, one is in the whole,—there is nothing which could judge, measure, compare, or sentence our being, for that would mean judging, measuring, comparing, or sentencing the whole… But there is nothing besides the whole!” (Nietzsche, Twilight of the Idols, “The Four Great Errors”, section 8.)
“This world is the will to power—and nothing besides! And your yourselves are also this will to power—and nothing besides!” (Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 1067.)
This world is the whole is will to power and nothing besides.
We experience life in fragments, and to save time, we take that fragmentation literally.
Humans aren’t the smartest creatures in the universe, depsite what christianity says about earthly life.
So we are going to get it wrong.
Although separation isn’t a reality, it is a very common idea.
It has some value… untrue things can have value still.
The world is a whole without unity, without spirit, without a Being, that has been said too. There is nothing but physics of the will to power in this world!
No metaphysical unity, no “holy spirit” and a trash like that!