Cognative Dissonance.

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Cognative Dissonance.

Postby Dan~ » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:04 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Tonight a friend and I breifly discussed cognative dissonance in its relation to core values.
The friend usedto post at ILP but he's now busy with work and stuff.
We chat though, rarely but i like the chats.

When the mind becomes dependant upon something, or believes we need something
in order to live, or something that our friends need in order to live, that belief then
aligns itself with defense mechanisms, which causes the mind to ignore, reject,
rationalize, or in a sophism, get rid of the ideas that are contrary to the survival
associated ideas.

In short, Life before Truth.

Truth is treated as a utility, and it is changed when we assimilate it, usually.

If a person believes they will go to hell if they disobey the religion,
and that they will go to heaven if faithful,
they will form defense mechanisms associated with their religion.
When I make a post, I'd like you to remember some general principals that usually apply to what I said. First of all, when I talk about 'facts' and categories of things, remember that I am not claiming these are always always the case, or absolute, or actual truth. I especially do not believe in pure truth, and I am not trying to convey it. Also, I am not a literalist towards thought-culture. I can only go so far as to symbolically portray observational experiences. I am not wanting you to take what I say literally, but look beyond it and see through it.
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Re: Cognative Dissonance.

Postby Moreno » Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:42 am

Dan~ wrote:When the mind becomes dependant upon something, or believes we need something
in order to live, or something that our friends need in order to live, that belief then
aligns itself with defense mechanisms, which causes the mind to ignore, reject,
rationalize, or in a sophism, get rid of the ideas that are contrary to the survival
associated ideas.
Sure, though this is not isolated. Beliefs that feel bad, seem strange or unsupported can also call for challenges, can drag attention toward them. Some people do not seem to experience the latter, but actually I think most do. I think that is what brings people to internet discussions. It is relief to have other people play the roles of our own doubts, so we can have moments where it seems like we just have one belief (on this or that issue). The theists, for example, can feel as if they are pure believers and the atheists can feel like there are purely rational. (likewise other team battles)

I think this is addictive.

In short, Life before Truth.
Which is a good choice I would say, unless this is a false dilemma.

If a person believes they will go to hell if they disobey the religion,
and that they will go to heaven if faithful,
they will form defense mechanisms associated with their religion.
Sure, though take religion in its broadest sense, whatever the apriori and 'oh, it cannot be' s happen to be.
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