Sexocracy

Why are they the most important part of human society, because you are young and you want both, or because you think they are fundamental to any society? I think what you want is skewed by your inexperience. A good system of government needs to speak to everyone, not young horny post adolescents. And I don’t mean that to sound demeaning but your mentality is obviously coloured by your age more than wisdom. Some people can get laid whenever they want anyway, to forgo the chase for a society of people who need make no effort to do so seems shallow, and ultimately unfulfilling. Communism as you say is similar it takes the drive out of labour, because everyone is equal no matter what they think or do. Neither system has shown any sign of success, they always get corrupted by the need for men or women to strive, to prove themselves. Sex and relationships are no different, we have to at the end of the day to have striven for what we wanted out of sex, and that goes for any desire.

Bag o’ cats mate, society is a bag of cats, you can’t please everyone but you can please the majority. Forgo that fundamental, forgo the drives that are so unique in any individual, let them off their experience of the sexual drive and you’ll raise a nation of charisma-less pleasure bots, hooked on drugs that they don’t have to work hard to find.

You really should read Brave New World by the way, it’s been said before but it might be an eye opener for you particularly.

We’re all sexual beings from the moment we’re conceived to the moment we die. Your perception of sexuality seems to be that it only applies to ‘young horny post adolescents’ that is so detached from reality it is psychotic. I’m disturbed by your repeated assertions of the need to ‘chase’ for sex. You sound like a rapist.

Drugs are incredibly powerful in many ways. Epecially the way they can access feelings of pleasure. We’re all pleasure seeking beings whether you’re two or a hundred and two. That’s one of the reaasons why drugs are incredibly important. Any sociological system that fails to make any comment on them, like Marxism, is going to be a laughable failure from the outset.

My system gives powerful incentive for labour. Not everyone is equal within the economy. Those who do not work only get standard status. Those who work get luxury status. Super luxury is reserved for the sexual service providers.

I’m not 'forgo’ing the drives. The drives are unforgoable. They are determined by our genes. I want to create a society where they are embraced and fulfilled rather than constantly blocked and frustrated by this fragmented world of self hatred you seem to think is so wonderful.

I think if you think it’s acceptable to ‘chase’ and ‘fight for’ sex then you’ve got problems. If I have sex with a beautiful woman I want her to leave me with kisses not scars. Chasing a woman and then fighting to have sex with her and coming away scarred sounds like a description of rape to me.

If I was a woman I’d feel threatened by the aggressive language you use to write about sex, and particularly by your comparison of sex with warfare.

Didn’t need any posts for that. Scars are you serious, who said the chase leaves scars, if anything it leaves calluses and if you’re lucky some pleasant memories.

You’re still young that’s you fault. You really need to realise that you, and by you I mean you as a person are not all. You like yourself I can tell, but other people, well you are in a world of ignorance.

Still you didn’t answer any of my points, I didn’t expect you to. For you love, well I don’t think you’ve ever had a long term relationship, and I don’t think you can be mature enough to cope with such an imaginary beast atm. If you think I think love is a battlefield, you might be somewhat right, but it is more than that, and you show little knowledge of knowing what that, that is. Hence this thread. My advice sincerely made, grow up, learn to talk, I mean really talk to women, and then have sex.

And hell don’t write three posts to address one, unless it’s a long post. Like your understanding of sex and real relationships, you should just keep it simple.

I’ll refer to a question that a friend of mine once asked, “have you ever really made love to a woman? I mean really.” He was joking but how many people have who have no ground to know? Yeah I have really made love to a woman, it was the best sex I ever had, not because she was fantastic in bed, but because mutually we were compatible. Where does your system encourage love, real feeling and not just little more than a wank?

And yeah that’s just horse shit because you don’t understand how relationships work. Come back in five years when you actually have had a relationship worth talking about, and are not just speaking about what you as a selfish and horny individual want because atm you can’t get it.

Drugs are only powerful if lucidity is more so.

Yeah I’m a potential rapist, who the hell isn’t. :smiley:

If she’s young and beautiful, nude, smiling adoringly at me and opening her legs as wide as she can go that means she loves me. The rest is bullshit.

You, my good sir, have a horrible definition of love.
Wanting sex is not love, its being horny. There is a very big difference.

This sums up the depth of your insights, I’m afraid.

Also, if you’re going to criticise Marx, it helps to have a passing familiarity with what he said.

I agree wanting sex is not love. My point is that only the young beautiful people have the power to express love for others. The old and the ugly simply can’t do it. That’s why I advocate the creation of a society where the young and beautiful are incentivised to express love to as many people as possible by becoming sexual service providers.

I criticise Marx for what he didn’t say. He didn’t argue for the abolition of money and he didn’t say anything about sex or drugs indicatiing a failure to recognise the reality of human beings.

You don’t seem to know what he didn’t say, then. What have you read of his?

A question occurs: I have a few acquaintances who have had their issues with heroin, and they say that it’s far better than sex. Why a sex-based economy and not an opiates-based one?

Because sex keeps you going, while heroin stops you.

Not all drugs are for all people. Heroin might be good for a person that is very wound up all the time and doesn’t want to change, for example. With the heroin, he can drop every now and then, but the discipline keeps you wound up the rest of the time, making for a better balance than before. Cocaine might be good for… Well, I dunno, Freud had some theories. Pot is good for people who have trouble empathizing and for the heroin example but to a way lesser extent, or a person that thrives on creativity. You see where I am going with this I think…

But sex is good for everybody.

I haven’t read anything by Marx. When did he argue for the abolition of money? What did he say about drugs? what did he say about sex?

It’s not a sex based economy it’s a status based economy. Sexual serve providers receive the higher status.

We’re all genetically programmed to have sexual desire. We only desire heroin after we’ve experienced it. You can’t overdose on sex. Sex is good for you, heroin use comes with health risks.

The economy isn’t designed according to sex or heroin it is designed according to freedom. It is a society where people are free to live whatever lifestyle they wish. It’s obvious that most men, if they were able to live the lifestyle they wished to, would have sex with lots of beautiful young women, and so the Sexocracy allows them to do this. I think many people wish to take heroin. I know I do. And so the Sexocracy provides this as well within a regulatory framework to maximise safety.

how did I get here?

“We’re all genetically programmed to have sexual desire.”

I think I met that programmer once. He was in a group of programmers, one was named genetic, one was named basic, and one was name, what the hell?

I was programmed to have beer and pizza. However, the programmer was not too good and I ended up with salad and steak.

I don’t see the distinction between, I was genetically programmed to eat pussy, and God created a fornicator. They seem to be much on par.

Genetic code is a language, to say that a language spoke itself, wrote itself, is rather thoughtless. A non-thought, actually.

As Plato pointed out, nobody desires a specific thing, only the satisfaction of an emotion, which is not specific at all.

The human body is a system of seven environmental acquisition systems. Therefore, any social system which has any hope of existing will be based on conquering “the seven last plagues of man”–metaphorically, of course. And, if one is way too stupid to get the procreative system right, there is absolutely no hope at all for the remaining six, six, six.

When our society starts thinking the opposite of this, I will consider it evolved in its understanding of its humanity.

What a fatal mistake to make for a “philosopher.”

Read up holmes, drop this scripture bullshit.

Perhaps you should.

You can, sexual compulsion (to the point of harming oneself) is a well-known disorder. Most of the danger of heroin comes from its uncontrolled, unregulated nature: medical opiates are much safer. And, apparently, better than sex. The pleasure is a (very) similar biological pathway, but more intense - if your philosophy is based on hedonism, why not go for that?

How is it different then from legalising drugs and prostitution? What freedom does money prevent here?

Thanks, Only Humean.

Why don’t you answer my questions? where does Marx advocate the abolition of money? What does he say about sexuality? what does he say about drug use?

Sexual compulsion. The ‘Tiger Woods’ effect right? We’ve all got sexual compulsion, we’ve evolved to be like that.

Heroin is a medical opiate- diacetylmorphine. Heroin is just the street name for it. People can take diacetylmorphine in the Sexocracy, or they can have sex with beautiful people, or they can do both. It isn’t the case that I have to ‘go for’ one or the other. Both are available in the Sexocracy.

Money draws value away from human beings and onto itself.