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A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:02 am

So I'm taking a Philosophy class in college. Just Introduction to Phil. It's been 4 weeks and I just don't get it at all. I really want to know why philosophy is so important.
Very basic questions but I can't seem to find a satisfying answer to any of them. Here they are:

1. What is the "truth" they keep talking about? Do they even know what it is? The truth of what exactly? ](*,)
I can accept it if was say, the truth of human's origin or something like that. Not just the word "truth" that doesn't mean anything.

2. What is the "knowledge" that Socrates, Plato and those philosophers were discussing back then? Again, did they even know what they were looking for? What knowledge? ](*,) If someone can define this "knowledge" it would be very helpful. Define "truth" also.

3. All those concepts, how nothing exists, or soul is immortal, reincarnation is real and knowledge is innate,... Just how did they know it? :shock: I mean, they just came up with those ideas and didn't even bother to prove them, yet people actually believed them (they had students)? :shock:

4. What is the point of Philosophy? To find the "truth"? Or "knowledge"? :?:

All these questions are factual, meaning there is only 1 answer for each. Please don't give vague philosophical answers (which don't actually solve anything). I'm considering dropping this class right now, seriously :( . I found this forum today and it seems to be a great place to look for answers.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Only_Humean » Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:16 am

sseekkeerr wrote:1. What is the "truth" they keep talking about? Do they even know what it is? The truth of what exactly?


Well, what's the difference between a true statement and a false statement?

2. What is the "knowledge" that Socrates, Plato and those philosophers were discussing back then?


It's a search for certainty, or at least the search for how certain we can really be about things.

3. All those concepts, how nothing exists, or soul is immortal, reincarnation is real and knowledge is innate,... Just how did they know it? :shock: I mean, they just came up with those ideas and didn't even bother to prove them, yet people actually believed them (they had students)? :shock:


They came up with arguments. That's what philosophers do. Have you read them? If you think the arguments are wrong, they came up with tools and methods to analyse where they went wrong too.

4. What is the point of Philosophy? To find the "truth"? Or "knowledge"? :?:


Different strokes for different folks. Some people want truth, some certainty, some want to know what meaning is (how language relates to the world), some want to know about morals. It's the attempt to think properly and in depth about things you find important.

All these questions are factual, meaning there is only 1 answer for each.


That's not true at all. Moved to Hall of Questions, as this smacks of a homework assignment.

Please don't give vague philosophical answers (which don't actually solve anything). I'm considering dropping this class right now, seriously :( .


Maybe philosophy isn't for you? Not everyone cares to think too deeply or question too much.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:46 pm

So is philosophy like critical thinking? Or they are different?
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Only_Humean » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:19 pm

sseekkeerr wrote:So is philosophy like critical thinking? Or they are different?


Critical thinking is an important part of philosophy. Examining assumptions and grounds for belief is a cornerstone of the practice.

There's an overlap: critical thinking is used for more than philosophy, and philosophy is more than just critical thinking. Philosophy also looks at logic, synthesising ideas, recasting problems in new ways for creative solutions, and so on.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Mhejmej » Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:54 pm

I am also in a freshman philosophy class. This is as simple as I can put it.

It is all about getting answers.

Philosophers such as plato and aristotle posed questions that even to this day, are unanswered. They deal with topics that causes one to think.

Some answers are accepted by society whether it has been proven or not.

And those answers have been ingrained in our heads.

We all have brains, and we all critically think.

So why be alright with the answers we receive? Your evidence is around you. Form an opinion. And support your argument.


Also- Have you even read the material? If you had, then you would realize that ALL PHILOSOPHERS support their claim. And quite often, their explanations are very detailed, every connecting thought, supported.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Mowk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:07 am

You post to an on-line forum of philosophy and demand not to get vague philosophical answers?

Drop the class.

There appears only one question, yet you believe there are a bunch? the only one that matters would be whether to drop the class?

Drop the class.

And all the others questions become moot.

Post the syllabus for the class, within it, you'll not likely find any promise of answers to your bunch of questions.

Drop the class.

"All these questions are factual, [are they?] meaning there is only 1 answer for each [is there?]. Please don't give vague philosophical answers (which don't actually solve anything) [no they don't]. I'm considering dropping this class right now, seriously :( . I found this forum today and it seems to be a great place to look for answers."

Drop the class.

You think the founders of philosophical query had an on-line forum to look for answers? Philosophy isn't in the answers, it is the looking at the questions, if your questions are all screwed up, imagine the answers.

Drop the class.

Unless you burn, then I'd recommend; don't trouble over such detail, and suck every drop that you can from the process like you'd drink from the last tall glass of ice cold water on a hot summer day.

No one can tell how thirsty you are but you.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:44 am

Yes, I've read every chapter my professor told me to, and I've read their arguments. Most of the time, they seem to discuss for the sake of discussing, unlike Pythagoras, who actually contributed to mathematics.
The only one who I can agree with so far is Plato.

Philosophy to me is like the art of debate, which is good, but I want some kind of conclusion.
By the way, Plato's goal is to help us get out of the cave, but what is his method? I can't seem to find it anywhere in the chapter about Plato. For example, Socratic method = asking questions. Then what is Plato's method?

Mowk wrote:Post the syllabus for the class, within it, you'll not likely find any promise of answer to your questions.

"All these questions are factual, [are they?] meaning there is only 1 answer for each [is there?]. Please don't give vague philosophical answers (which don't actually solve anything). I'm considering dropping this class right now, seriously :( . I found this forum today and it seems to be a great place to look for answers."

It may also help to reveal how assumptive your questions are. On second thought: drop the class.


Yes they are factual questions. I asked what was the truth they (the ancient philosophers) were looking for. I didn't ask for your opinion about truth, which you seem to have more than one idea of. Obviously they were looking for something, and i want to know what it was. How can one look for something without defining what it is? What was their definition of truth? Also, they were arguing if truth and knowledge are obtainable or not, which means they were arguing about the same thing. (If not, then they were arguing about different things, and that would make them look like idiots). I'm very interested in their early idea of truth and knowledge.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Mowk » Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:53 am

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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Faust » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:12 am

seeker - while my first reaction was that you should probably drop the class, I will try to offer a starting point. Plato was one of the first Correspondence Theory of Truth dudes. His is not a fully-developed theory, but it was a start. He really was trying to find out what it means when we say "X is true". This is verrrry basic stuff. Only_Humean has alluded to this already, as he has to the practise of philosophy - that it examines basic assumptions. Pay attention to what he says. He is easily one of the best thinkers here, and he has a knack for clarity and elegance in his writing.

In fact, the answers to all of your questions are in O_H's posts.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Mhejmej » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:16 am

I see why philosophy is not for you. Yes, I agree. Drop the class.

One last drop of wisdom:

Stop trying to look for what they thought the truth was. Start thinking why they thought the way they did. "Truth" and "Good" is invidivualistic. The reason why some philosophic is confusing to read, is because, all work is open for interprentation.

Interpret it in your own way.

If everyone has the same feeling about a piece of art, it is not good work.

Great philosophy has varied interprentations.

Which is exactly why you get the "debate" feel.

Unfourtunately, you do not have a philosophic perspective and therefore would stand no chance in a debate.

Drop the class.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:26 am

Seeker (But Spelled Unusually) wrote:Philosophy to me is like the art of debate, which is good, but I want some kind of conclusion.


Do not drop the class.

Philosophy will not lend itself to absolute conclusions, but you will occasionally come to conclusions that you will be forced to defend. Your conclusions will occasionally hold up (in your view) and occasionally, they will not. The greatest Philosophy lesson of all is learning why conclusions (yours or otherwise) are not absolute. The only way that you will ever learn about why conclusions are not absolute is to stay in the class, and hopefully, that class will be enough to do it...but I doubt it...take another Philosophy class after this one.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:42 am

Mhejmej wrote:I see why philosophy is not for you. Yes, I agree. Drop the class.

One last drop of wisdom:

Stop trying to look for what they thought the truth was. Start thinking why they thought the way they did. "Truth" and "Good" is invidivualistic. The reason why some philosophic is confusing to read, is because, all work is open for interprentation.

Interpret it in your own way.

If everyone has the same feeling about a piece of art, it is not good work.

Great philosophy has varied interprentations.

Which is exactly why you get the "debate" feel.

Unfourtunately, you do not have a philosophic perspective and therefore would stand no chance in a debate.

Drop the class.


Not quite. Actually I've won every debate in class so far. Twice to be exact. Despite having no "philosophic perspective".

@PavlovianModel146: I understand. But if early philosophy was about debate, making sound arguments then they could have talked about anything, right? They kept discussing truth and knowledge, so I'm curious. I like history a lot, and I'm simply looking for historical answers, so my purpose may be different from you guys. I mean, did they explain their definition of truth in any material?
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:50 am

The majority of them start with their definition of truth, either that, or entire Philosophies have been basically a definition of Truth. Solipsism is a Philosophy that tries to define Truth, and it basically defines the only Truth as the self and whatever the self experiences. That's not exactly right, there's more to it and it becomes far more nonsensical, but that's all you need to know for right now.

I gave my definition for Truth, well, Knowledge, in my, "The Nature of Reality," thread.

Here is a link to the thread, the excerpt is on Page 3:

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Myself wrote:We do not know the totality of reality, therefore, there are specific things that we do not know.

We know that we do not know the totality of reality, therefore, it cannot be said that we know nothing, because we know at least that one thing.

What categories of knowledge can then be said to exist?

To answer this, the first thing that I am going to do is propose a definition of knowledge (which actually combines a few generally accepted definitions of knowledge) to be used for the purposes of answering this question.

Knowledge: An understanding or awareness of a certain subject, that, to a person approaching the subject reasonably and in good faith, cannot reasonably be refuted.

I'm also going to be using the following definition of refute, as opposed to the definition meaning that it must be proven wrong:

2 : to deny the truth or accuracy of (1)

Given this definition, the understanding or awareness one has of a subject does not necessarily have to be proven wrong, but the accuracy of that understanding or awareness must be able to be reasonably denied.

Differences:

1.) The difference between knowledge and truth is that knowledge does not necessarily have to be absolutely true, it must only be true (i.e. irrefutable) within a partial reality. If and when the understanding or awareness of a subject should become reasonably refutable, then the understanding or awareness may cease to be knowledge and merely become assumption or theory.

2.) The difference between knowledge and conviction (or belief) is that a person who is merely convinced of something, (or who merely believes something) when approaching the subject reasonably and in good faith, will admit that their understanding or awareness of the subject is, at the very least, refutable.

-The God argument is a good one for this because if an Atheist/Theist is approached on the subject of whether there is/is not a God, then that person should admit that they do not actually know. In fact, given the nature of the question, it is possible that no true understanding or empirical awareness of the subject may exist such that either position is benefitted.

3.) The difference between knowledge and certainty is that certainty might be defined as, "Definite, beyond doubt or question." This differs from the definition for knowledge above because knowledge merely, "...cannot reasonably be refuted," whereas certainty is, "beyond doubt or question." In other words, knowledge both can be (and in some cases, should be) questioned whereas a certainty is beyond question. Certainty, therefore, exists on a plane above knowledge, because it implies that no question with the goal of refuting the subject can even be asked, not just that the subject cannot be refuted.

The following paragraphs will be some categories of knowledge for which I have made a distinction, please note that any similarity to any other categories such as these is entirely coincidental and unintentional:

1.) Local, Unshared Local, Unshared knowledge refers to an empirical understanding or awareness of what an individual is experiencing in the present. The subject(s) of this knowledge cannot reasonably be refuted unless the individual experiencing the subject chooses to refute it and does so reasonably.

An example of this knowledge would be the fact that there is a pen sitting to the left of my keyboard at this moment. As you might expect, I have a certain concept in mind pertaining to what I would define or consider to be a, "Pen," and this object which I am empirically experiencing (sight) fits that concept to such a great extent that I consider my understanding of the subject to be irrefutable. This knowledge is unshared because there is nobody sitting here with me, and even if there were, the question of whether or not the object in question is a pen has not been brought up. In other words, I am left with my own thoughts as to whether or not the object in question is a pen.

As we all know, appearances on many things can be deceiving, however, so what I may know to be something in my Local, Unshared, knowledge might turn out to be something else altogether. For example, I might happen to be looking out of my window and see a small figure amongst a grove of trees eating some sort of foilage or vegetable matter. Upon examining the movements of this creature and it's color, I determine that it is a beaver. Except, it turns out the animal has it's back to me, and when the animal turns around and hops away I can clearly see by its facial features that the animal is a brown rabbit.

Some might claim that the animal was a beaver, in my estimation, was knowledge until the animal turned around which gave me a better vantage point. Of course, this was not knowledge, because the point that the animal was a beaver does not satisfy the quality of, "...cannot reasonably be refuted," given the fauna of my geographical area, I was simply expecting the animal to be a beaver as opposed to a brown rabbit.

Had I internally investigated the matter more thoroughly, (i.e. thought about it) then I would have realized that the animal in question was not irrefutably a beaver. However, after getting a better look at the animal, namely the animal's face, it became irrefutable knowledge at the Local, Unshared, level that the animal in question was a brown rabbit. In other words, if I pursue the subject in good faith and reasonably (internally), then that the animal in question is a brown rabbit (given my empirical experiences of brown rabbits and what they are) is irrefutable.

When it comes to questioning one's knowledge at the Local, Unshared level, the first question that should be asked is, "Is my understanding of the subject definitely the case, can it reasonably be that my present understanding is not the case?" If an individual is honest with himself/herself in answering this question, (good faith) and arrives at a conclusion that the subject cannot reasonably be otherwise, then that person has knowledge...at that level.

2.) Local, Shared Local, Shared knowledge refers to an awareness or understanding of what two (or more) individuals are experiencing in the present. The understanding or awareness of this subject constitutes knowledge if all of the parties are in agreement, or if all of the parties are not in agreement, then those who are in agreement are approaching the subject reasonably and in good faith while the contradicting party is either not approaching the subject reasonably or is not doing so in good faith.

If all parties are experiencing the subject reasonably and in good faith, yet they arrive at different conclusions, then the parties may not have Local, Shared knowledge with relation to the subject, but that does not prohibit them from having Local, Unshared knowledge regarding that same subject.

We're going to go back to the pen on my desk for this one:

A.) I am sitting with an individual who happens to be clinically insane. With regard to the subject on my desk and sitting to the left of my keyboard, I know (Local, Unshared) that the subject in question is a pen. Unfortunately, my clinically insane company thinks that the subject in question is not a pen, but rather a cheese enchilada. He attempts to eat it, and the whole affair goes to Hell from there. He may be acting in good faith in his assertion that the subject is a cheese enchilada, but he is not acting reasonably, as it can be empirically demonstrated (in many ways) that the subject in question is a pen and not a cheese enchilada.

-That the subject in question is a pen remains Local, Unshared knowledge (from my perspective) because I know the subject in question to be a pen, and acting in good faith and with reason, that the subject in question is a pen is irrefutable to me.

-That the subject in question is a cheese enchilada is not Local, Unshared knowledge to my company because that the subject is not a cheese enchilada is refutable to a person acting in good faith, and with reason because it is easily refutable that the subject is not a cheese enchilada.

-That the subject in question is a pen is not Local, Shared knowledge because my company and myself clearly do not share the knowledge that the subject is a pen.

B.) I am sitting with an individual who happens to be clinically insane and another individual who is clinically sane. With regard to the subject on my desk and sitting to the left of my keyboard, I know (Local, Unshared) that the subject in question is a pen. The clinically insane person in my company still thinks it is a cheese enchilada, but the clinically sane person in my company also knows the subject in question to be a pen.

-The subject in question is Local, Shared knowledge between myself and the other sane individual because acting reasonably and with good faith, we both understand the subject in question to be a pen.

-The subject in question is still not knowledge of any kind to our clinically insane company because he still fails to approach the subject reasonably, although he may be acting in good faith.

Local, Shared knowledge is a higher form of knowledge than Local, Unshared knowledge because it requires both internal and external reasonable and good faith verification to survive as knowledge.

3.) Local, Past, Unshared Local, Past, Unshared knowledge has all of the qualities of Local, Unshared knowledge except it is empirical knowledge of something past and something not presently occurring. This distinction of a quality of knowledge only exists to differentiate between an understanding or awareness of something being experienced and understanding or awareness of something that has been experienced.

4.) Local, Past, Shared Same general concept as #3, only applying to shared knowledge instead.

5.) Expanded, Shared Knowledge Expanded, Shared knowledge is a category of knowledge that is, by definition, shared knowledge and relates to either past/past shared knowledge or past/present shared knowledge. In other words, it relates to an understanding or awareness of a subject that has been experienced on at least two different occasions, by at least two different people who are both approaching the subject reasonably, in good faith, and who both find the understanding or awareness of the subject to be irrefutable.

-Going back to the pen, assuming that the pen on the desk goes unmoved for a couple of days, if on day one my understanding and awareness of the subject results in the Local, Unshared or Local, Shared knowledge that the subject in question is a pen, and a few days later another person empirically experiences the object, and acting reasonably and in good faith identifies it as a pen (Local, Unshared if just one person) then we happen to converse about the subject and agree that it is irrefutably a pen; we have come to Expanded, Shared knowledge.

Expanded, Shared knowledge is a higher form than any sort of local knowledge because not only does it require both internal and external verification, it requires that such verification take place over a period of time so that if the nature of the subject were going to change, it would have been more likely to do so.

6.) Expanded, Unshared Knowledge Expanded, Unshared knowledge is such knowledge that exists and is found (reasonably, and in good faith) irrefutable on the individual level over a course of time and multiple observations.

-In other words, if I leave my desk and come back after a period of time and I still know the object in question to be a pen, then I have achieved Expanded, Unshared knowledge.

Expanded, Unshared knowledge is a higher form of knowledge than Local, Unshared knowledge because it requires the understanding and awareness of the subject to remain the same (and, in good faith and with reason still be irrefutable) over the course of multiple observations.

7.) Regional Knowledge Regional Knowledge is a form of awareness or understanding that exists pertaining to knowledge of a subject (on the whole) or knowledge of the qualities possessed by a general subject.

-For the pen example, that all reasonable people acting in good faith could identify the same object (or a different object with the necessary similarities) as a pen. In other words, the understanding and awareness of what makes up a pen, or of what qualities a pen should have would constitute Regional Knowledge.

-Another good example is the knowledge that human beings are mortal creatures. All reasonable people acting in good faith that have witnessed someone die, (yet have not witnessed anyone live forever, which is impossible to witness, because we cannot know the future, even if someone could live forever) would conclude given their awareness and understanding that human beings are mortal creatures and are capable of death. There may be a person who has never seen someone dead in the mix, but the argument that a certain person has not seen anyone dead, even to a reasonable person acting in good faith, is not enough to trump the awareness and understanding of a person who has seen someone dead that humans are mortal creatures. In other words, such a person acting reasonably and in good faith would not find the mortality of humans to be reasonably refutable.

Regional knowledge does not necessarily exist on a higher or lower level than Expanded knowledge. The reason for this is because Regional Knowledge deals in the understanding or awareness of generalities, or of certain concepts, but not so much in the understanding and awareness of a concrete and specific thing in a certain location. Regional Knowledge is a different category of knowledge altogether that does not warrant comparison to Local or Expanded Knowledge.

8.) Universal Knowledge -Universal Knowledge does not exist because it would require that a given individual(s) have an awareness and understanding of the totality of reality, or at least of the physical reality, which we do not.

Universal Knowledge would be the highest form of knowledge, if it existed.

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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:57 am

Omg yes, thank you! :shock: This is what i'm looking for.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 3:59 am

Really? Well, then, I'm glad to be of service.

Compared to many Philosophical texts, it's really not that good, just to let you know, but not terrible for an amateur who majored in Economics... :wink:
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Faust » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:13 am

Pav, you're a fuckin' genius.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:15 am

:lol:

I don't think that you expressed any disagreement with what's been quoted, but you didn't care for the OP of that thread very much. Although, you did offer very helpful commentary that eventually led to what is quoted above.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Faust » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:32 am

I was okay with the OP per se. I didn't read it until O_H's posts and the OP's responses were already there. I think the OP can try a little harder. But the overwhelming majority of people in my intro class reacted similarly, as far as I recall.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:35 am

I meant the OP of, "The Nature of Reality."
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby Faust » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:48 am

Ohhhh. I'll have to review that thread.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby sseekkeerr » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:14 pm

Hm. I've read the whole thing and it doesn't answer all my questions, but it's close enough anyhow.
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Re: A bunch of questions

Postby PavlovianModel146 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:27 am

I'll take a shot at whatever questions you have, also, keep in mind that I wrote it over a year before your post.
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