Sex outside of marriage?

Until he finds out, then in a fit of jealous rage, shoots both you and his girlfriend mid coitus and then burns your corpses and makes bread out of the ashes, with jam and butter obviously. Think on. :wink:

Friends with girls? Ha! I think Smears has it right minus the girls that are just friends thing. Letā€™s be honest Smears those girls that are your friends are back up fucks in case of a dry spell. Either that or those ugly girls/fat really are brilliant enough conversationalists to keep your attention so much so that you prefer them over dudes intellect. Letā€™s end the whole girls and guys can just be friends horseshit right here and now. YEs girls and guys say they are friends with someone of the opp sex, but what do they really mean? A guy who has a friend who is a girl either wants to fuck her, doesnā€™t want to fuck her and wants his emotional needs met (gay), is gay, she is a brilliant conversationalist/better intellect than his guy friends(if he has any). From the girls point of viewā€¦who the fuck knows girls, chime in. My best guess is that they are in a way back up fucks as well as one option, or maybe some sort of validation of her social worth? Also women with a guy friend far outweighs a guy having a girl as just a friend. Guys can get shit done and often provide leadership in life, while women sob and whine about shit.

ITs a risk worth taking! :evilfun:

The whole friends thing is overrated as is ā€œromanceā€ whatever fuck that means. I donā€™t dismiss romance for being a colorful word for fucking, i see it as non-meaningful word. When a guy gives his girl flowers, do you think he thinks heā€™s romancing her in a non-sexual way? Or does he want pussy?

:open_mouth: :angelic-cyan: [-X :smiley:

:laughing: :-" :mrgreen: :-$

Well at least I see the type of person Iā€™m talking to now.

Nah man Iā€™m for real. I actually know some really smart girls. Two of the ones Iā€™m ā€œjust friendsā€ with were philosophy majors, one is now works in some fancy bank building, and the other is a funeral director. Another girl I know is a physical therapist, and makes bank, but studied philosophy as a second major in undergrad. Theyā€™re pretty good people to talk to. I also am friends with a girl who studied business, and now owns like 20 houses and rents them all out w/ her little LLC type company with no employees other than herself. Sheā€™s busy man and gets shit done. I actually know a good number of smart girls. Iā€™m still friends with two of my female professors and I go and eat lunch with them and sit in on lectures they give at conferences and shit. Those bitches have PhDs in philosophy. How can that not be truly interesting? Thereā€™s so many girls that just donā€™t do anything with themselves and Iā€™m just not cool w/ that unless they got a banging body and are dtf.

Now to be fair, I would never fuck one of those professors, or the funeral director, but the others I totally would. I think one of them is working on me now she keeps inviting me over, then getting drunk and passing out. Itā€™s sad that sheā€™s so good at business but so bad as handling her emotions and getting what she wants from a dude. You gotta make em work for it a little.

I do have 2 girls that are backups, but only one is really available on a regular right now cause she got rid of her b/f. The other one is pretending to love someone right now, so itā€™ll probably be months, maybe a year before that one picks back up. I guess itā€™s just the idea of getting a variety of ass on a constant basis that keeps me going. You might call it being gay or emotionally needy or whatever to just go hang w/ a bitch, but man itā€™s all part of the game. inevitably youā€™ll meet bitches that you DO want to fuck by hanging out and being nice to the other ones. Plus theyā€™ll already trust you. Man sometimes I feel like a terrible person. But I always end up getting distracted from those thoughts be some kind of pleasure. I dunno. I dunno.

Sex outside of marraige? It seems to me that if youā€™re out 'shopping ā€™ around, the marraige was over or you wouldnā€™t be out looking. So from my perspective, there is no sex ā€˜outsideā€™ of marraige. Of course this assumes that at some point marraige included intimacy, which hasnā€™t been discussed at all in this thread. Nor has vulnerability which is the core of intimacy. All the talk has been about fucking, which is just using someoneā€™s body to masturbate.

To Stoic- And what person might that be?

Fair enough Smears, and thanks for sharing the details. Youā€™re lucky to have found some of those rare types of women to have good conversation with, however that sexual element for some of them is still present (as you mention for those that arenā€™t proff. and funeral director. Could you call colleagues perhaps?).Also, i bet if any one of them repulsed you physically truly you would not see them no matter their intellect, unless you had to see them otherwise for work. Unless im way off base thereā€¦ I was also gonna mention previously a point you brought up about having girls that are friends in order to fuck them later after bringing their guard down a little and explore their insecurities to get them comfortable enough to fuck, which i respect. That one drinking girl you mention is ready to go, and Iā€™m pretty sure one would choose to ā€œcompromiseā€ the friendship by doing the deed if it came down to it. That sucks that you feel like a terrible person for doing your thing, but in all honesty I think you have it right for the most part when it comes to the opp. sex.

To Tentative- What is intimacy? IF someone fucked your S.O. in theory, but there was no intimacy would that make you feel better or worse? Being vulnerable could very easily lead to sex without intimacy, one night stands? And i have to disagree with your last point. Sex is for procreation and not for romantic bullshit, although we like to dress it up as intimate. Intimate for me is a penis going into a vagina. Agree, disagree? And thatā€™s a reach for me because intimacy is really just made up mental masturbation coating for fucking. Intimacy is more of a woman thing, guys just wanna hit it.

If a person wants to ā€˜playā€™ outside of marriage (or their relationship) then they should end it to persue the otherā€¦ cheaters think of getting their oats first and their partners feelings after.

joekoba,

First, there wouldnā€™t be a significant other if all its about is fucking. You donā€™t have to marry to get laid. Marraige is a committment to one another. If it isnā€™t reciprocal, there is no marraige. Love making is the consequence of intimacy, not the other way around. If your definition of intimacy is simply sticking it in, then youā€™ve missed my point. What you call intimacy is what I already said. You use another persons body to masturbate. Thats just fucking, and has nothing to do with love making.

I agree. However Iā€™ve never been in a situation where I could play outside of a relationship, so my accord is probably hollow. Would I, Gord knows. Ask me when a girl I know, knows full well Iā€™m in a relationship and throws herself on me anyway. I guess I either know moral people, or I am not Brad Pitt or such, I am happy either way. :slight_smile:

I like to say I would never cheat on a girl but then Iā€™ve never been tempted, how much is that worth? Itā€™s like saying you could always kill any person, without ever having killedā€¦

there can be marriage without feelings being reciprocal, why do you think 1 of 2 marriages end in divorce in the US? Was it because they believed in their marital vows? For a guy marriage happens in large part because of the guarantee fucking involved, you can dress it up as intimacy but thatā€™s what it boils down to, believe it or not. So what is intimacy to you?

Why should they magsj? If they want a piece on the side why not have both if one can get a way with it?

Relationships are pretty overrated anywayā€¦ Guys put up with relationships just to get consistent sex, and any guy telling otherwise is whipped

Youā€™re sad man.

Heā€™s right I only hang around schools and pick up 7 year olds for sex. Thereā€™s no way I want a mature relationship with them. :wink:

I realise at this point I may have overstepped the bounds of propriety. However since I am currently sleeping with my sister, I think itā€™s the next logical step to admit it honestly. :laughing:

EDIT:

Ah sex, itā€™s great but it aint that great

Uhhā€¦ :confused:

Iā€™m agreeing with you Stoic, the guys just wrong headed, I was just using a resort to the ridiculous to show how wrong. I might of got that wrong though. The love that dare not speak itā€™s name is no longer a glimpse of the lower calf under the stocking. Perhaps I went too far. Shocking is just not what it used to be.