How is it hard to understand that:
2: phpBB is offered in America with the feature to restrict, or remove, editing included; thereby clearly defining it as a legal software feature to employ on website forums.
3: The edit feature was on indefinite setting previously.
4: Users did use the feature inappropriately counter to Rule ix of the rules in place since 2004
frequently enough to cause the Moderator and Admin/Owner to discuss the matter at length.
5: The Moderators and Admin/Owner democratically decided to restrict editing to 48 hours so to better implement board adherence to Rule ix of the rules in place since 2004, since reprimand to violator's of Rule ix was aside from the impact which Rule ix addressed.
6: That you don't own any property on the internet that you submit to any website or website forum as ownership of the virtual property of the website.
7: That the decision is ultimately the decision of the Owner of the website or website forum as to how much property right any user retains.
8: That any user at ILP doesn't have
to be given any editing control at all, as is done on several website forums on the internet.
As examples of similar property right scenarios:
Garageband.com (now iLike.com) had/has an agreement whereby if you upload your music to share, they retain controlling rights to dispense that music however they like freely without payment to you.
You retain your right to do the same, but do not retain the right to remove the content from their data library or request them to.
You may remove the content from your profile, but it will not be gone from their data server, or their media circulation access for dispersion.
Hulu.com; pretty much the same thing.
Hubpages.com; pretty much the same thing.
Poetry.com; pretty much the same thing.
And every website forum on the internet...pretty much the same thing, save that in some cases you may or may not have access to remove or edit content depending on the website forum's standards.
Hell, how many people play World of Warcraft and chat on the website forum?
Let's see what the license agreement looks like there?http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/ab ... ofuse.html
NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY HEREIN, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOU SHALL HAVE NO OWNERSHIP OR OTHER PROPERTY INTEREST IN THE ACCOUNT, AND YOU FURTHER ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT ALL RIGHTS IN AND TO THE ACCOUNT ARE AND SHALL FOREVER BE OWNED BY AND INURE TO THE BENEFIT OF BLIZZARD.
D. User Content.
"User Content" means any communications, images, sounds, and all the material and information that you upload or transmit through a Game client or the Service, or that other users upload or transmit, including without limitation any chat text. You hereby grant Blizzard a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, paid-up, non-exclusive, license, including the right to sublicense to third parties, and right to reproduce, fix, adapt, modify, translate, reformat, create derivative works from, manufacture, introduce into circulation, publish, distribute, sell, license, sublicense, transfer, rent, lease, transmit, publicly display, publicly perform, provide access to electronically, broadcast, communicate to the public by telecommunication, enter into computer memory, and use and practice such User Content as well as all modified and derivative works thereof. To the extent permitted by applicable laws, you hereby waive any moral rights you may have in any User Content.
Anything you even speak
over voice chat in World of Warcraft is their
property to use any way they wish perpetually.
Your right, in all of the above cases, is to not accept the user license agreement and end use, or to accept the user license agreement and continue use.
Just as a consumer's right is to purchase or not purchase a product.
A consumer's right
does not grant controlling power over the product itself according to their
ILP is a product.
The owner has decided to offer the product for free and foot the bill on his own.
The owner of ILP does not have to offer the product for free.
ILP could charge for this product because ILP is a product
Your consumer right
to a product with a usage, and therefore a user license agreement, is to accept or not accept the user agreement of a product.
ILP has full rights
legally to declare full use of property rights for any and all content on ILP and reuse the information.
Example: if ILP made TV commercials, ILP (or any website forum) has the right to display any user's post contents in the advertisement.
ILP has simply chosen to arrange the current form of the user agreement to stipulate that such action would not be conducted without the user's consent of content use.
ILP does not
have to have even this part of the user agreement (most sites don't).
If you do not like that you give away intellectual property rights of the instance of your writing and that writing's instance of content
At ILP, and at most places, the declaration of this agreement is at the initial signup of service:
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Unfortunately, most people tend to treat user license agreements like this: