To Anarchists . . .

[uglypeoplefucking]

If there were anarchy, what would you do that you can't do presently? i'm not asking what could someone do in theory, i'm asking what would you personally be doing that you can't currently do because of government or society or whatever?

[Duality]

live off the land as in farming, raising livestock, not paying taxes, building all my own shit for starters. houses, residences, whatever else i feel like. basically everything people are coerced into doing through parasitical heirarchical structures.

[phyllo]

Carrying lots of weapons, sleeping with one eye open, raiding Duality's houses and rustling his livestock.

[FilmSnob]

First and foremost, I would have me a nice, big ol' marihuana and hemp plantation. Of course, I would have a lot of cronies with guns to avoid Phylo-style parasitic types.

Secondly, I would reap the intellectual benefits of a society that doesn't have a centrilized setter-of-standards.

[FilmSnob]

I would throw raves at every ex-government building with lots of drugs, naked people, and cronies with guns to avoid the Phylo-style parasitic types.

[FilmSnob]

Hmm... I would be involved in a large number of activities that today require government permissions, like technical scientific research and applications.

I would be involved in local iniciatives that would exploit the destruction of the public-private paradigm, like social organisms to satisfy the inifinity of human needs and interests.

Stop it uglypeoplefucking, you're making me drool on myself.

[PavlovianModel146]

I'd probably piss outside more often. It's sterile, anyway.

[James L Walker]

Live in a world without a centralized money supply.

Government is little more than a monopoly on taxes, money, market economics, and institutional assignment.

Money and taxation is the means of enslavement.

Military and the police is the means of maintaining that enslavement by government forces.

[Polly]

Great postal services; lower fees for services such as street lighting and trash removal; better, cheaper transport, education, healthcare... And the overall increase in free time and cash that would go with all that, giving more time and money for leisure and pleasure.

[James L Walker]

Great postal services; lower fees for services such as street lighting and trash removal; better, cheaper transport, education, healthcare... And the overall increase in free time and cash that would go with all that, giving more time and money for leisure and pleasure.

So long as there is a money supply there is government.

[Polly]

Why? We have to use pricing, there is no better alternative as it stands. That doesn't mean there has to be a government. You're getting things twisted.

[FilmSnob]

Metal currency bitchez. Buy yourself a scale.

[Duality]

Why? We have to use pricing, there is no better alternative as it stands. That doesn't mean there has to be a government. You're getting things twisted.

not really - without money you would just be trading goods based on real value (labor), as opposed to parasitical or symbolic value that is rigged by the power structure (capital). money cant exist without a heirarchy anyway. people will laugh at your worthless paper.

[Polly]

I said pricing, aka a value system. I'm not advocating paper money, but pricing is essential.

[Calrid]

Learning how to use a shotgun. Looting said implements of survival. Treating anyone I didn't know like a blood crazed zombie.

[FilmSnob]

Learning how to use a shotgun. Looting said implements of survival. Treating anyone I didn't know like a blood crazed zombie.

What makes you think that shotguns would be easily available without the governmental capitalism that makes it easily available today?

[phyllo]

What makes you think that shotguns would be easily available without the governmental capitalism that makes it easily available today?

If they are not easily available, then we will be the slaves of the overlords who do have shotguns.

[FilmSnob]

What makes you think that shotguns would be easily available without the governmental capitalism that makes it easily available today?

If they are not easily available, then we will be the slaves of the overlords who do have shotguns.

We already are, my man.

[iambiguous]

There must be a reason why anarchy has never once achieved recognition as a viable manner in which to forge human relationships embedded in one or another rendition of political economy. It really makes sense only in those apocalyptic Mad Max worlds visited from time to time in Hollywood.

Think of trying to survive on The Road or in the Bool of Eli. And maybe someday the species will have devolved to that point.

Though some no doubt would view this as progress.

[FilmSnob]

There must be a reason why anarchy has never once achieved recognition as a viable manner in which to forge human relationships embedded in one or another rendition of political economy. It really makes sense only in those apocalyptic Mad Max worlds visited from time to time in Hollywood.

Think of trying to survive on The Road or in the Bool of Eli. And maybe someday the species will have devolved to that point.

Though some no doubt would view this as progress.

Right... use the capitalist anti-anarchist propaganda as proof. Do you believe everything you see on TV?

Also, Anarchism has had a long and respected tradition among people who read about this stuff. Maybe you need to pick up a book.

[FilmSnob]

Finally, to any simple-minded or missinformed poster that decides to compare Anarchism with a shitty post-apocalyptic Denzel Washington flick, understand that anarchism is first and foremost an academic tradition and, as L. Susan Brown put it:

"While the popular understanding of anarchism is of a violent, anti-State movement, anarchism is a much more subtle and nuanced tradition then a simple opposition to government power. Anarchists oppose the idea that power and domination are necessary for society, and instead advocate more co-operative, anti-hierarchical forms of social, political and economic organisation." [The Politics of Individualism, p. 106]

Also, the post-apocaliptic genre started with depictions of dystopian futuristic fascist regimes.

I cannot streess enough how stupid it is to get your idea of what anarchism is from The Book of fucking Eli.

[Polly]

I see anarchism as being to politics what atheism is to religion. It's just stripping the ideas back to their most simple, and building on that.

[Polly]

That's why it sucks so hard to see the "ideology" of anarchism dragged through the mud by OWS dumbasses and the like.

[Stoic Guardian]

That movie was pretty lame for the most part.

[phyllo]

Finally, to any simple-minded or missinformed poster that decides to compare Anarchism with a shitty post-apocalyptic Denzel Washington flick, understand that anarchism is first and foremost an academic tradition and, as L. Susan Brown put it:

Oh, now I get it - ACADEMIC TRADITION. Somebody with a PhD thought about it while sitting on a comfy couch and discussed it with grad students in a pub. It will be paradise on Earth.

BTW, Book of Eli was a pretty good movie.