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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Duality » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:31 pm

James L Walker wrote: ninety five percent of the village idiots that comprise society will not do anything in rebelling at the moment.

They are too busy funding some CEO's golf swing and Rhode Island Mansion, along with all-expense paid trips to the Virgin Islands. :banana-dance:
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:36 pm

phyllo wrote:
Plus it makes it legal. Come on. Good questions please.
If a group has total control then who cares about legality. Legality is irrelevant to both the shepherds and the sheep.


No that's wrong. Total secret control is a misnomer.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby phyllo » Tue Mar 20, 2012 8:40 pm

No that's wrong. Total secret control is a misnomer.
Are we totally enslaved or not? If not, then what freedoms do we still have?
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:18 pm

Ok, slow down. First of all, this "power" grab by the government has been a long, long time in the making.
when FDR did his bit, the hue and cry was all about the government controlling everything and the U.S becoming
socialist. The person who did actually see the writing on the wall was Eisenhower and he warned us about the
Military/industrial complex becoming too powerful. And it is this military/industrial complex I.E big companies that
dabble in everything including government contracts that run the show, not any one individual like bush jr or chaney or obama.
now any one given individual may be may actively involved in the military/industrial complex like bush sr and bush jr. and chaney,
but don't think it is a government takeover per se because it is not, it is a corporate takeover of america.
Obama can't take a dumped without a sign off by corporate america and neither can you. Every single aspect of your life is run
by corporate america. Doubt it? OK, corporate america decides who works and who doesn't in america by their hiring and firing,
corporate america controls the media, all forms of the media including the Internet, television and radio. corporate america decides
what the content of that media is and who is on that media. Corporate america decides what books get published and that determines
the authors america reads. What magazines get published is decided in corporate america and who writes in those magazines which explains
why you always see the same 15 or 20 writers writers in magazines. corporate america decides who is our congressmen and presidents by
who they fund. Every single aspect of your life is already determined by corporate america, even to the clothes you wear because corporate
america decides which clothes make it into the shelves and what clothes never get sold even if you make your own clothes because corporate
america decides which fabrics are available for general use. Dont bother fearing big bother, because big brother has nothing on corporate
america because corporte america runs the government in every single way.
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wind up with neither."
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The RNC has announced that's its changing the Republican emblem from
an elephant to an condom because it more clearly reflects the party's political
stance: a condom stands for inflation, halts production, destroys the next generation,
protects a bunch of pricks, and gives one a sense of security while screwing others.

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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James S Saint » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:22 pm

The major concerning distinction between Obamacon and Reagan Preparedness, is that no emergency situation has to actually be at hand in order to confiscate people and materials to be stockpiled just in case something should come up later. Reagan specially noted that his executive order allowed for NO authority until a national emergency was declared and even then, if the situation could be handled by local governments, then the military still had no authority to act.

Money can now be transferred from any account (private or government) to anywhere by presidential decree (actually Secretary of the Treasury).

All businesses of interest must allow "storm troopers" to come in and install any type of equipment (surveillance and influence) at the cost of the business regardless of any state of war or peace as preparing for the possibility of war.

With the new EO, there actually is no such thing as private property (the very definition of a communist/socialist society).
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:29 pm

Duality wrote:
James L Walker wrote: ninety five percent of the village idiots that comprise society will not do anything in rebelling at the moment.

They are too busy funding some CEO's golf swing and Rhode Island Mansion, along with all-expense paid trips to the Virgin Islands. :banana-dance:
:banana-linedance:


Exactly.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James S Saint » Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:47 pm

It is all about "how to boil a frog".

And btw, as per the NDAA decree, "war on terror" means "war on objectors/dissidents".
Soon, a great number of people are about to suddenly disappear from the streets or their homes, never to be seen again. The FEMA "fusion" camps have already been built. Anyone seen Gov. Jesse Ventura lately? the banned Police State episode

A lot of political objectors, such as Ron Paul, Jesse Venture, and Alex Jones will no doubt be suddenly stricken with a fatal ailment.
The game is on.

Another fun socialist enforcement.. Attack dogs used against High Schoolers for planned protest and thought crime
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Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
The Social Paradox - to be well grounded and soundly harmonious, one must rise above the dirt and noise.
The One God ≡ The reason/cause for the Universe being what it is = "The situation cannot be what it is and also remain as it is".
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:23 am

phyllo wrote:
No that's wrong. Total secret control is a misnomer.
Are we totally enslaved or not? If not, then what freedoms do we still have?


It's obvious we're not totally enslaved. That is just ostensible with you having the freedom to even say that erroneous sentence.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:44 am

phyllo wrote:
No that's wrong. Total secret control is a misnomer.
Are we totally enslaved or not? If not, then what freedoms do we still have?


Yes, were totally enslaved. Everybody's "freedom" extends only to their bank account or lack of. It is all about money and who is it that controls financial distribution? Government!

The only reason why were allowed to express ourselves in the west is that the authorities find it easier to censor individuals by isolating them out as internet crackpot conspiracy theorists utilizing their own propaganda defamations thereby convincing the rest of the population that were a bunch of delusional crazies.

The west is quite more brilliant in this kind of censorship because it is more effective in comparison to the Asian model of outright killing or imprisoning dissidents.
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"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
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"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:50 am

Post-9/11 truth called,

They want their polemic fear assertions back.

Seriously, the Illum isn't all powerful. Let's not get ridiculous.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:54 am

Authority Figure wrote:Post-9/11 truth called,

They want their polemic fear assertions back.

Seriously, the Illum isn't all powerful. Let's not get ridiculous.


Sure they are. The Bildebergers that is.

Try protesting or expressing yourself off the internet and see how far that will get you.

The fact that the internet is the last bastion of self expression is depressing.
"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
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"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:59 am

Try protesting or expressing yourself off the internet and see how far that will get you.


This is a protest. It has gotten me this far: 2 pages.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:23 am

Authority Figure wrote:
Try protesting or expressing yourself off the internet and see how far that will get you.


This is a protest. It has gotten me this far: 2 pages.


The internet accomplishes little.
"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
-Max Stirner-


"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:24 am

So why are you here so much?

The Internet reaches millions, if not billions of people. So long as it stays open we have incredible power.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:29 am

Authority Figure wrote:So why are you here so much?

The Internet reaches millions, if not billions of people. So long as it stays open we have incredible power.


I am here for the entertainment and self education value purposes only.
"The state calls its own violence law, but that of the individual crime."
-Max Stirner-


"Laws are made by governments and are enforced by violence." - Leo Tolstoy-

"I am a disciple of chaos. I like to watch civilization burn and despair." - By Me

"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

"Civilization is nothing more than a globalized overly worshipped farm where the owners violently and oppressively domesticate other human beings like enslaved cattle enforcing the direction of their labors for their own individual profit."- Random Anarcho Primitivist
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:33 am

You're here to complain about your job and social status and stuff. That is what I see.

You've said one of 'fascist' 'oligarchy' or 'fascist oligarchy' about 1006 times since I've e-met you.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby FilmSnob » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:28 am

Authority Figure wrote:You've said one of 'fascist' 'oligarchy' or 'fascist oligarchy' about 1006 times since I've e-met you.


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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James L Walker » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:07 am

Authority Figure wrote:You're here to complain about your job and social status and stuff. That is what I see.

You've said one of 'fascist' 'oligarchy' or 'fascist oligarchy' about 1006 times since I've e-met you.


Yes, I am apart of the exploited class.

What the fuck do you want from me?

I will say whatever the fuck I want to sir.
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"Propaganda of the deed." - Bonnot Gang 1912

"My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet airplane. My son's son will ride a camel just like my father before him."- Arab Peak Oil Proverb

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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:39 am

What the fuck do you want from me?


More.

We're all a part of the exploited class. Even the people here or reading this that think they are rich, are not. There is the people who make money, and then the people who have it. Literally everyone who has ever read anything on this site is in the exploited class. In other words, if things go through, there will be them, and then everyone.

So you must transcend money, and everything else. You must draw into yourself power. If I was locked up in a jail cell I have the knowledge to just sit there and meditate, probably to the extent that I could blow a hole in the wall with my mind.

That we're all so distracted is what they have going for them, and to a certain extent having to work is a part of that. So the time that you spend while not working, if you're a part of this class, is valuable. I don't want to see you waste as much time as I did simply complaining. Get proactive.

For example I throw orgonite at cellphone towers, and no one here even thinks orgonite is legitimate. lol. I used to argue with people about chemtrails, and 'Yeah this works, fucking try it!!" and I would type till I was blue in the face. Eventually I realized it was literally a waste of time to talk to those people—even if I understand, they will need an Authority Figure to get it, so why even try? Some thing with the 100 threads on government and anarchy and what not. You're preaching to the choir pretty much. We need you to lead the way to something new.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby FilmSnob » Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:51 am

You are bombing a cellphone tower with life-force?

What has it done to it so far?
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Gobbo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:02 am

See?

Gotta make music regardless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8JETwB6NM
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby lizbethrose » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:29 am

For a good, non-governmental explanation of EO12919, please see http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp

Of course, most of you won't go to Snopes because most of you don't want opposing facts to interrupt your diatribes, but the post is really too long to repeat here.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby James S Saint » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:35 am

lizbethrose wrote:For a good, non-governmental explanation of EO12919, please see http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ndrp.asp

Of course, most of you won't go to Snopes because most of you don't want opposing facts to interrupt your diatribes, but the post is really too long to repeat here.

The Snopes blog is not all that long, but to sum it up, it merely says, "Nothing is changing. All is fine. Go back to sleep. We are still keeping the world safe for you. Nothing has changed. Go back to sleep."

Why create an executive order if it changes nothing?
What does it actually change?
It changes whether or not an actually emergency has to exist in order to impose marshal law.
It requires annual updates of the taking over of all industry and all labor.
Other than that, it doesn't change much that the former Marxist President hadn't already instilled.
Now you can go back to sleep.
Clarify, Verify, Instill, and Reinforce the Perception of Hopes and Threats unto Anentropic Harmony :)
Else
From THIS age of sleep, Homo-sapien shall never awake.

The Wise gather together to help one another in EVERY aspect of living.

You are always more insecure than you think, just not by what you think.
The only absolute certainty is formed by the absolute lack of alternatives.
It is not merely "do what works", but "to accomplish what purpose in what time frame at what cost".
As long as the authority is secretive, the population will be subjugated.

Gain is obtained by giving a lot and keeping a little.
Those who too ardently seek to be seen as correct, see only correctness in themselves.
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby phyllo » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:46 pm

Literally everyone who has ever read anything on this site is in the exploited class.
I'm not. :banana-guitar:
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Re: Obama Signs Executive Order Giving Him Pretty Much All P

Postby Stoic Guardian » Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:37 pm

Marxist, Give me a Break...
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