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Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:19 am

The typical saying these days that is popular is work smarter not harder.

Why is that? Because in the massive modern society of fraud, exploitation, inequality, cheating, lies, psychological manipulation, and economic disparities working hard is for suckers.

Working hard one finds themselves with heart disease as they get older unable to afford the medical bill as the company they worked for several years got outsourced over seas.

Working hard leaves a older person unemployed as their company they have worked for several years outsources overseas leaving them nothing for retirement or any form of medical insurance in their dying years as they get thrown onto the street homeless.

Working hard nowadays only gets you a temp or part time job making eight dollars a hour when your apart of the working class.

In order to succeed in the modern world you need to have the intelligence that other people need or an ability to lie, cheat, and steal your way to top.

If you can't or are unable you just end up becoming a dumb hard working laborer making a equally dumb income. Working hard is for suckers.

The concept of earning a living is nothing more than a ruse of by gone days in the past.

Today is all about being lucky enough to have the information or skills necessary to make a nice living and lying one's way to the top.

In order to survive in modern society well one must learn to be clever and deceptive.

Honest hard work will make you poor all your life and lead yourself to a early grave.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Duality » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:26 pm

Leave the toiling to the dumb rabble my anarchist brethren. O:) \:D/
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:48 pm

It's funny how much the anarchist berates his fellow exploited man. You sure your not just an Exploiter who never made it to the "top"?
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby turtle » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:50 pm

people dont get heart disease because they work hard.

if you pay attention to your lifestyle you may be more secure financially in old age...

this post just sounds like negative shit...where is your walk not talk...what we need is a survival manual not a bunch of crap...
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:51 pm

turtle wrote:this post just sounds like negative shit...where is your walk not talk...what we need is a survival manual not a bunch of crap...


It's 90% of what he posts.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Duality » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:12 pm

Stoic Guardian wrote:It's funny how much the anarchist berates his fellow exploited man.


Why? O:)

Stoic Guardian wrote:You sure your not just an Exploiter who never made it to the "top"?

Moreso than you. :banana-dance: :sci-fi-beamup:
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"Those then who know not wisdom and virtue, and are always busy with gluttony and sensuality, go down and up again as far as the mean; and in this region they move at random throughout life, but they never pass into the true upper world; thither they neither look, nor do they ever find their way, neither are they truly filled with true being, nor do they ever taste of pure and abiding pleasure." -Socrates
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby _________ » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:31 pm

I guess my question would be why you place such value on high salary work, unless your employment is in a field you are passionate about. Honestly, I've done a number of archetypal jobs including my current two (construction and AutoCAD), lawn service, and even scrapping--but I'm in a much better mood after a day of cheap, manual labor than half a day of AutoCAD at $16/hr. There is, in my opinion, a certain appeal to just scraping by.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Calrid » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:34 pm

turtle wrote:people dont get heart disease because they work hard.

if you pay attention to your lifestyle you may be more secure financially in old age...

this post just sounds like negative shit...where is your walk not talk...what we need is a survival manual not a bunch of crap...


Interestingly I have a survival manual for a zombie apocalypse, I wrote myself. I think it would apply here too.

It's 90% of what he posts.


Be fair though he was shat on from a great height in all his past life's too, which would probably explain it.

Jobs I have done:

Manual labourer
Ditch digger (and no I am not making that up for effect)
Pot Washer
Labourer, factory
solderer
assembly worker
assembly line worker
Screwing the tops on perfume bottles all day
Loading trucks
Loading and unloading trucks
Medical Equipment Library Assistant
Finance Assistant
F/t carer.
Tomato picker
Strawberry picker
Pepper sorter
Box stacker
Mail room assistant, office grunt.

And frankly a lot more. Best job ever? Mail room assistant, for the reason that the staff were fun and friendly, the boss wasn't an asshole and most importantly I got to whiz around a naval base on a golf cart delivering mail to the messes and wot not. Pay was about £5 an hour, back when which is pretty minimal, although it was mildly higher than what would be the minimum wage now. Then if you see what I mean.

Work is doing something you enjoy, it's not about the money. If they paid me to play computer games all day and look at porn etc, I would be living the dream and would probably do it for nothing. :)
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:53 pm

Duality wrote:
Stoic Guardian wrote:It's funny how much the anarchist berates his fellow exploited man.


Why? O:)


Because he acts like he's better than the "bad men" he criticises, while also thinking lesser or the "masses" the way you would expect these "bad men" to.
Stoic Guardian wrote:You sure your not just an Exploiter who never made it to the "top"?

Duality wrote:Moreso than you. :banana-dance: :sci-fi-beamup:


I don't get what you mean.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Duality » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:01 pm

Calrid wrote:Work is doing something you enjoy, it's not about the money.

Then it wouldnt be called work, but a life's calling. :banana-angel:

Stoic Guardian wrote:Because he acts like he's better than the "bad men" he criticises, while also thinking lesser or the "masses" the way you would expect these "bad men" to.


Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men. You see - [thats a false inference] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic) O:)
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:02 pm

False inference. I like it!
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:06 pm

Duality wrote:
Stoic Guardian wrote:Because he acts like he's better than the "bad men" he criticises, while also thinking lesser or the "masses" the way you would expect these "bad men" to.


Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men. You see - [thats a false inference] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur_(logic) O:)


Is it? Also I don't see how it's "disconnected" at all.

They may not be the same but they share a common trait, one that he critcizes other for having.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Duality » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:07 pm

James L Walker wrote:False inference. I like it!


Yes the statists are really good at those. It helps to lube up the metanarrative, so when they get tucked into sleep at night, they are out like a baby all night long. O:)
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:10 pm

Duality wrote:
James L Walker wrote:False inference. I like it!


Yes the statists are really good at those. It helps to lube up the metanarrative, so when they get tucked into sleep at night, they are out like a baby all night long. O:)


Haha! Remember to work hard like a 'good' slave and get hardly anything back in return for your physical labors.

Behave! Now bend over for Mr. government...
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby statiktech » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:15 pm

Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men.


Why, and how, are you "better" than anyone?
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:33 pm

statiktech wrote:
Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men.


Why, and how, are you "better" than anyone?


Haha! It is always about the word 'mine' and the concepts of 'earn', 'privilege', or 'entitlement'.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby statiktech » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:14 pm

James L Walker wrote:
statiktech wrote:
Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men.


Why, and how, are you "better" than anyone?


Haha! It is always about the word 'mine' and the concepts of 'earn', 'privilege', or 'entitlement'.


OK, now try answering the question.
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Postby Stoic Guardian » Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:32 pm

James L Walker wrote:
Behave! Now bend over for Mr. government...


You have a lot of these rape fantasies huh?
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Gobbo » Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:00 pm

I think working hard has advantages. It develops you as a person. I'm very competitive so sometimes I turn hard work into a competition and then it's kind of fun.


Droning on all day at some slave wage job isn't smart, though.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby iambiguous » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:01 pm

Do you love your work? Are you raising kids?
I'm sick to death of this particular self. I want another.

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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Duality » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:13 am

statiktech wrote:
Right, but thats not why Im better than the bad men.


Why, and how, are you "better" than anyone?


We've already discussed this sufficiently in previous threads. Move along now. O:)
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby brevel_monkey » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:00 pm

In order to succeed in the modern world you need to have the intelligence that other people need or an ability to lie, cheat, and steal your way to top.

If you can't or are unable you just end up becoming a dumb hard working laborer making a equally dumb income. Working hard is for suckers.

The concept of earning a living is nothing more than a ruse of by gone days in the past.
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I get your point about modern society. But I don't really get why you think its different from any society in the past.

You think a medieval peasant got rich if they pulled the plough faster? You think a roman soldier became a general if they did all the menial work really well and sat around waiting to be promoted?

Just the way it is.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby Calrid » Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:23 pm

I am better than everyone.
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:29 am

Statik:

OK, now try answering the question.


Better? Who said anything about being better?
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Re: Working Hard Is For Suckers

Postby James L Walker » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:32 am

Stoic Guardian wrote:
James L Walker wrote:
Behave! Now bend over for Mr. government...


You have a lot of these rape fantasies huh?


Not really. It's just this whole prisoner dilemma of being a menial debt slave is very similar to being a constant rape victim of the government.
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