Professional bodybuilding as mental disorder?

[volchok]

Regulation is a good idea on drugs that can be abused.

You think so? I don't. Like I said before, I think all drugs should be legalized.
What needs to change is education. People should be educate about drugs, what they are, what they do, the pros, the cons, the side effects and so forth.
If a good education is in place you don't need regulation.

[Calrid]

Regulation is a good idea on drugs that can be abused.

You think so? I don't. Like I said before, I think all drugs should be legalized.
What needs to change is education. People should be educate about drugs, what they are, what they do, the pros, the cons, the side effects and so forth.
If a good education is in place you don't need regulation.

Hmm I agree with the sentiment, but do I trust even educated people to be sensible... No.

[FilmSnob]

I watched the documentary last night.

I liked it, it was more objective and even-handed than most documentaries dealing with controversial issues. I feel like I had a good watch AND I learned a thing or two.

I already knew the thing about the US Air Force pilots on speed though.

One of my ambitions is to eventually carry around a case with a bunch of drugs to help me in any given situation. I am now adding steroids to the list.

[volchok]

Hmm I agree with the sentiment, but do I trust even educated people to be sensible... No.

But what do you mean by being sensible?
I can surely agree that perhaps a very basic regulation should exist, something like "it's illegal to sell drugs to minors" but the justification for that is because minors´s brains are even fully formed yet so they won't be able to make the best decisions plus, they can be easily compelled or manipulated and so forth. Also certain drugs may be more dangerous at a young age and that kind of thing.

But if my being sensible you mean a fully grown adult not getting addicted or something like that, in order to avoid that you would have to restrict people's freedom (which is what happens now) and that I obviously can't support.

Not to mention that if all drugs are legalized, we could create specific places where people could take certain drugs and go trough certain kinds of experiences, all under the supervision of professionals who know what's going on and are able to help you in case you have for instance a bad trip.
There's this common misconception that all drugs are bad and that there isn't any positive aspect to drugs. That's obviously nonsensical and this is coming from a person who has never touched any kind of drug. But let's say, just for the sake of argument, that drugs are in fact bad. People will keep doing drugs. So between buying the drugs from some shady people and doing them on some shitty place, wouldn't it be better if there were protocols in place to assure the well being of consumers ? Wouldn't it be better if they did whatever drug they want to do in a safe environment? And I don't know anything about economy but I'm pretty sure all this places could be easily built with the money that is currently invested on the war on drugs.

[Calrid]

Hmm I agree with the sentiment, but do I trust even educated people to be sensible... No.

But what do you mean by being sensible?
I can surely agree that perhaps a very basic regulation should exist, something like "it's illegal to sell drugs to minors" but the justification for that is because minors´s brains are even fully formed yet so they won't be able to make the best decisions plus, they can be easily compelled or manipulated and so forth. Also certain drugs may be more dangerous at a young age and that kind of thing.

But if my being sensible you mean a fully grown adult not getting addicted or something like that, in order to avoid that you would have to restrict people's freedom (which is what happens now) and that I obviously can't support.

Not to mention that if all drugs are legalized, we could create specific places where people could take certain drugs and go trough certain kinds of experiences, all under the supervision of professionals who know what's going on and are able to help you in case you have for instance a bad trip.
There's this common misconception that all drugs are bad and that there isn't any positive aspect to drugs. That's obviously nonsensical and this is coming from a person who has never touched any kind of drug. But let's say, just for the sake of argument, that drugs are in fact bad. People will keep doing drugs. So between buying the drugs from some shady people and doing them on some shitty place, wouldn't it be better if there were protocols in place to assure the well being of consumers ? Wouldn't it be better if they did whatever drug they want to do in a safe environment? And I don't know anything about economy but I'm pretty sure all this places could be easily built with the money that is currently invested on the war on drugs.

Too many issues a thread in itself, but suffice to say I am not against your post.

Steroids or crack or cannabis? Depends too complicated, too hard to explain and then there is tobacco the demon of all demons. The great killer of men and women everywhere.

[MagsJ]

Male and female fitness models take lesser amounts of roids than body builders, and it really irks me that they model under the word 'fit' - they do it to look better than their competitors, and therefore get hired for shoots and campaigns, which means a steady income of easy money - people will do anything to get that competitive edge.

[volchok]

Male and female fitness models take lesser amounts of roids than body builders, and it really irks me that they model under the word 'fit' - they do it to look better than their competitors, and therefore get hired for shoots and campaigns, which means a steady income of easy money - people will do anything to get that competitive edge.

Steroids can be very harmful but they are not as bad as people think. If you really know what you are doing you can get away with it and not damage your health so, it doesn't bother me that they use the term " fit". What truly bothers me is all the lying. But the truth is that if they want to make money they have to lie otherwise they won't get sponsored by companies or featured in magazines.


The lying is truly sickening. Specially when you have this so called "natural" competitions where the competitors get tested. Who cares if they get tested? As long as they stop taking whatever it is that they are taking 3 or 4 months before the competition, then they are good to go and nothing will show up in the test.

[Chester]

To be honest I don't know whether Steve Reeves used steroids or not (probably not) but he was probably the best looking bodybuilder of all time, and much more natural looking...my wife far prefers the older bodybuilding look to the drug addled one of today.

[Chester]

I think it was Bertram Russell that said all movements go too far and with regard to bodybuilding he was right.

http://skinnybulkup.com/


http://stronglifts.com/

[LATT]

I'm into bodybuilding. And I have a specific well thought out visual goal in mind.
But, I would never want to look like a professional bodybuilder.

Here's an example of what a pro bodybuilder looks like in case you don't know: http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images ... 2668.5.jpg

Anyway, knowing what bodybuilding entails, the lifestyle, the eating, the steroids, the obsessiveness of it all, the altered perception of your body..
It seems to me that pro bodybuilding and anorexia are like two polar opposites of the same continuum.

Thoughts?

There NOTHING alike.