Globalism makes us stronger, and better!

[Amorphos]

Globalism makes us stronger, and better!

More minds interacting makes us more intelligent ~ better.

Mixing formerly disparate societies, makes us stronger; the Aztecs died of our diseases and we died of African diseases, mix us all up and humanity is stronger against world wide diseases.

We get greater distribution of DNA.

More variety of culture.

More freedom, we can move where we want, do business where we want and with whom we want.

It is better, and that’s why global politics desires more of it.

-------side note---------

Oh and Jews are often more adept at globalism, because they were sent from their own lands and into many other cultures ~ its simply about experience and the wisdoms derived from that. This is why Jews get into high political and commercial positions.


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[Flannel Jesus]

There are a couple meanings of the word "Globalism." One is what I think you're talking about -- a world in which commerce and information is international, intercontinental, etc. Most people don't really find anything wrong with that. The other, perhaps more common meaning (perhaps not) is something people do tend to see as more negative, and that's a world in which one government governs all.

[James L Walker]

This is most disgusting nonsense thread created here on ILP.

With the Jewish side note I am wondering if the thread author is a zionist tool.

BTW, your globalist ideology is shit.

I look forward to the future battles between the nationalists and the internationalists. There is no difference between globalists and communists.

[Amorphos]

The other, perhaps more common meaning (perhaps not) is something people do tend to see as more negative, and that's a world in which one government governs all.

I meant both except that I don’t think there will be a single government and a new world order. I do think that politicians are intelligent enough to know that its all too fluid for that, and that you need accountability. For me that side of things is more about cooperation and working to the same ends.

This is most disgusting nonsense thread created here on ILP.
With the Jewish side note I am wondering if the thread author is a zionist tool.
BTW, your globalist ideology is shit.
I look forward to the future battles between the nationalists and the internationalists. There is no difference between globalists and communists.

I simply put arguments forwards, I am not necessarily for nor against them, I simply want to understand the big picture by looking at it from all angles.

Not that I’d expect you to understand that.

The battle has already been fought and the nationalists lost. Why on earth wouldn’t you want the freedom to live anywhere etc? why isn’t the world your nation!

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[FilmSnob]

If globalism didn't depend on herd mentality...

[Amorphos]

If globalism didn't depend on herd mentality...

No, nationalism depends on that surely?

[Stoic Guardian]

I look forward to the future battles between the nationalists and the internationalists. There is no difference between globalists and communists.

Oh im sure the Nationalists will love you anarchists. I mean historically they've never gone to war (Again sarcasm).

[Stoic Guardian]

I liked the original idea of Globalism, but as it stands today it has little to do with bringing the world together.

More about Multinational corporations consolidating resources than anything.

This has been going on for well over 100 years.

[Amorphos]

I liked the original idea of Globalism, but as it stands today it has little to do with bringing the world together.
More about Multinational corporations consolidating resources than anything.
This has been going on for well over 100 years.

Perhaps, there are many players vying for power [resources or otherwise] but that’s what globalism requires. If the west didn’t grab a large slice of the pie then china and Russia for example would, then that wouldn’t result in globalism.

I think the commercial side of things is allowed to happen when and because it supports the overall ethic or ethics. International governments could easily overpower the corps.

[uglypeoplefucking]

If globalism didn't depend on herd mentality...

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone decry the "herd mentality" then, well, i'd have a whole fucking herd of nickels.

slightly ironic.

[Stoic Guardian]

International governments could easily overpower the corps.

The fact that they haven't concerns me as to whether or not they can.

[FilmSnob]

If globalism didn't depend on herd mentality...

if i had a nickel for everytime i heard someone decry the "herd mentality" then, well, i'd have a whole fucking herd of nickels.

slightly ironic.

If I had a nickel for everytime someone bitched about the term herd-mentality, I'd buy myself oats to herd you into a stable.



This is self defeating as hell, but fuck is it a funny way of making fun of me.

[James L Walker]

The other, perhaps more common meaning (perhaps not) is something people do tend to see as more negative, and that's a world in which one government governs all.

I meant both except that I don’t think there will be a single government and a new world order. I do think that politicians are intelligent enough to know that its all too fluid for that, and that you need accountability. For me that side of things is more about cooperation and working to the same ends.

This is most disgusting nonsense thread created here on ILP.
With the Jewish side note I am wondering if the thread author is a zionist tool.
BTW, your globalist ideology is shit.
I look forward to the future battles between the nationalists and the internationalists. There is no difference between globalists and communists.

I simply put arguments forwards, I am not necessarily for nor against them, I simply want to understand the big picture by looking at it from all angles.

Not that I’d expect you to understand that.

The battle has already been fought and the nationalists lost. Why on earth wouldn’t you want the freedom to live anywhere etc? why isn’t the world your nation!

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Nationalists might of lost the first major battle won by the internationalist globalists but we haven't lost the war. The war is by far nowhere near over.

You would have to be blind to not see the nationalist resurgence worldwide.

Your globalism creates by far more global instability if anything which is a win win for the nationalists. Enjoy the Pyrrhic victory for now.

[James L Walker]

I look forward to the future battles between the nationalists and the internationalists. There is no difference between globalists and communists.

Oh im sure the Nationalists will love you anarchists. I mean historically they've never gone to war (Again sarcasm).

I have never been against war. Furthermore nationalism to me is very compatible with anarchism. You forget I am a ardent tribalist.

It makes sense to me as to why government supporters uplift international globalism since it is all about total control to them. Such arrogance!

[Amorphos]

Nationalists might of lost the first major battle won by the internationalist globalists but we haven't lost the war. The war is by far nowhere near over.
You would have to be blind to not see the nationalist resurgence worldwide.
Your globalism creates by far more global instability if anything which is a win win for the nationalists. Enjoy the Phyrric victory for now.

You are some kind of anarchist lol [and I have been on nazi forums, so I know exactly how they think].

There is a resurgence [albeit a laughable one] because the world has naturally become more global, people are moving around more because they can easily and cheaply do that. More people are feeling threatened according to ancient territorial beliefs. Its really quite ghastly, I saw a documentary where some Russian fascists beat hell of some guy in a café, and threw another off a train. A large group of them against a single individual, how hard are they! Its just small minded and ridiculous, why you would want to associate yourself with such people I don’t know.

What the neo-Nazis don’t realise is that every thing they do is playing right into the hands of the people they oppose. oh and what race are you, surely being american you are multicultural or your descendants will be for sure.

You are using a globalist tool right now btw.

[Moreno]

If everyone accepted anarchism, there would still be globalism. Cultures mixing, people migrating, cuban chinese restaurants in Japan and Toronto. Interracial marriages ever increasing. Education across borders that would no longer exist.

If it was anarchism, well, then no centers of power, ideally, not corporate oligarchies, etc.

But in terms of racial and cultural purity AT LEAST AS MUCH loss of these if suddenly everyone was an anarchist.

The only way to stop with would be to destroy much of the world's technology.

Any racial and cultural purists who want to be anarchists have to be luddites. But then this would entail laws to control others who were not luddites.

[Amorphos]

If everyone accepted anarchism, there would still be globalism. Cultures mixing, people migrating, cuban chinese restaurants in Japan and Toronto. Interracial marriages ever increasing. Education across borders that would no longer exist.

Exactly! globalism naturally happens, I think the problem and the reason why some people hate it, is because its not just occurring naturally but being propagated ~ which I also dislike.

[FilmSnob]

Some of us just don't like the reality of technology being inevitably tied to government.

[Moreno]

Some of us just don't like the reality of technology being inevitably tied to government.

I agree 100%. I don't like it being tied to corporations either, though these days...two sides of the same coin.

[Moreno]

Some of us just don't like the reality of technology being inevitably tied to government.

Though as a determinist there are only inevitable ties.

[Moreno]

Exactly! globalism naturally happens, I think the problem and the reason why some people hate it, is because its not just occurring naturally but being propagated ~ which I also dislike.

There are facets I like and facets I hate. I hate the current every increasing centralization of power, both in corporations, which are getting bigger and fewer, especially finance sector monsters, media monsters and the giant security companies like Haliburton. I dislike the way local markets have been broken down. This is not inevitable, but is the result of focused efforts using the IMF and other NGOs to smash the non-western world's control over their own markets and governments. I dislike the McDonalization of everything. A felafel stand in Tokyo, great. A Subways, ugh.

That we can connect with, meet, learn from more people from more places, I like.

[uglypeoplefucking]

globalism is overall a good thing, i agree it makes us better, and it doesn't result in homogeneity (as some have implied) at all - globalism results in cultural variety.

plus think about what a simpler, less conflict ridden world it would be if there were fewer soveriegn nations, or even - if i may dare to speak of such things - a unified global nation - some sort of global constitution - there would still be distinct communities of people, they just wouldn't be arbitrarily divided into seperate nation states with completely different systems of government, all at odds with one another . . .

[uglypeoplefucking]

If I had a nickel for everytime someone bitched about the term herd-mentality, I'd buy myself oats to herd you into a stable.

hmm, i rarely hear anyone complaining about the term - usually it's just someone throwing it out there so they can feel like they aren't part of the herd along with everyone else, when in fact they are.

seriously, it's pretty ironic that all these like-minded individuals who read the same writer(s) go on to wax philosophical about how horrible it is that everyone thinks in similar ways.

[James L Walker]

If everyone accepted anarchism, there would still be globalism. Cultures mixing, people migrating, cuban chinese restaurants in Japan and Toronto. Interracial marriages ever increasing. Education across borders that would no longer exist.

If it was anarchism, well, then no centers of power, ideally, not corporate oligarchies, etc.

But in terms of racial and cultural purity AT LEAST AS MUCH loss of these if suddenly everyone was an anarchist.

The only way to stop with would be to destroy much of the world's technology.

Any racial and cultural purists who want to be anarchists have to be luddites. But then this would entail laws to control others who were not luddites.

Only in certain areas with what you propose might be true. In big cities I can see your scenario but it would not be like that everywhere.

What happens in a existence of anarchy when you get a bunch of people that are racialists and nationalists in a area? What kind of communities are formed?

In a existence of anarchism beliefs, traditions, and racial cultures will still prevail. Moreno I don't understand how you can't see that.

[James L Walker]

Nationalists might of lost the first major battle won by the internationalist globalists but we haven't lost the war. The war is by far nowhere near over.
You would have to be blind to not see the nationalist resurgence worldwide.
Your globalism creates by far more global instability if anything which is a win win for the nationalists. Enjoy the Phyrric victory for now.

You are some kind of anarchist lol [and I have been on nazi forums, so I know exactly how they think].

There is a resurgence [albeit a laughable one] because the world has naturally become more global, people are moving around more because they can easily and cheaply do that. More people are feeling threatened according to ancient territorial beliefs. Its really quite ghastly, I saw a documentary where some Russian fascists beat hell of some guy in a café, and threw another off a train. A large group of them against a single individual, how hard are they! Its just small minded and ridiculous, why you would want to associate yourself with such people I don’t know.

What the neo-Nazis don’t realise is that every thing they do is playing right into the hands of the people they oppose. oh and what race are you, surely being american you are multicultural or your descendants will be for sure.

You are using a globalist tool right now btw.

I am not a neo nazi or national socialist. I am not apart of the KKK.

I know people who do not like racialists, nationalists, or seperatists like calling us the proverbial boogey man by such defamations but that is simply just ridiculous.

What is really interesting is how outside of the caucasian race racialism is alive and well in other ethnicities. I have a friend who is Puerto Rican. He does not like blacks.

In my current neighborhood there are a large dominant numbers of blacks and Mexicans who hate each other in that violence is commited towards each other all the time.

You spoke of violence against foreigners. What you don't understand is the territoriality of people. I do. We are territorial beasts.

Many ethnic nationalists that uplift and embrace the national territories of their ancestors do not like the idea of becoming a oppressed minorty from others within them. That is why they violently lash out.

Democracy and government is not all that nice when you are a minority.

Your global multiculturalism explicitly supports the notion that nobody can have their own territory where everybody has to share the same land.

That simply will not work as I have alluded earlier in how human beings like any other animal are territorial. You call this discrimination whereas I call this nature.

Look forward to more future territorial violent lashing out since the war for territory has just only begun. As I said enjoy that pyrrhic victory of yours as it will not last very long. Time is ticking away.

Were not all the same and we all can't just get along.