Tales From Being Homeless

[nameta9]

Winner Take All

I was reading on some websites and magazines (The Economist and such) how the USA, EU and JAPAN and others must "Move up the Economy Chain" and design and innovate and "Services" (what a total joke! Services suck so hugely, I HATE Services, kill Services!) and such in order for them to "grow", etc. I am amazed how so called smart economists can still believe in such insane BS: first off how many new possible Designs can there be ? how many new possible innovations can there be ? and especially, new Services ? to do exactly what ? to create as many roadblocks as possible to achieve anything ! this is what Services really are all about. Obviously, not many truly useful and valid Innovations are possible (in fact there are many useless and negative - diminishing return kinds of innovations, innovations that make you waste a lot of time on a bunch of BS, like Facebook and Twitter and such, but then again, this Economy is all about Wasting Time, Wasting the Way Too Much Idle and Free Time that a Technological Economy brings upon millions of people since they all end up having all very little real work and labor to do structurally), and in fact this goes back to my theory that this economy is becoming a Minority Economy, only the Winners play and win, only a few can win, everyone else is a loser.

So for example Apple "invents a new cell phone" which is just a computer put in a new package, and Apple wins a huge chunk of market, the same with Google or Facebook and others and such. And, as a corollary what they actually do is Program People, they actually Program How People Will Behave and What People Will Do (and buy, etc.) : As if the computers really end up programming people after people programmed the computers, or as if, by programming computers, the corporations are so subtle and smart that they can actually indirectly program people to act and Buy and Do what they want.

The programs are programmed in such a way as to go backwards and program people: whether you can say that the computers end up programming people or that the corporations program people by programming the computers and software that people will use so that they will program people to do certain things, it doesn't matter, what counts is that we program computers that then program us (it ends up going the other way around, we thought we were telling what the machines were to do but they end up telling us what to do and we actually end up programming our own prison).

But more importantly, those who win, win BIG TIME; there is this automatic Monopoly tendency in all of these high tech endeavors, the winner takes all, the winner wins big time, once again, the forces in action concentrate everything in a few winning hands and cut out everyone else, Winner Take All. And this is supposed to make an "Economy Grow" ? No, only the rich and the winners grow, everyone else is Programmed and Brainwashed to buy their products, like robots and drones, they just pay and buy and obey the Powers that Be, go out and Buy the new Apple Gadget, go on, make them richer, wait all night long outside of the store, what c*cks !

Obviously this ideology of Innovation is a huge deception, but so many people buy into it, and really believe it and such (and even if there are all of these new inventions waiting to be made, then maybe worldwide they can keep at most 1 million people employed (10,000 new startups having 100 engineers or "innovators" or whatever). But alas, it is all useless, the Powers that Be, the rich and corporations will always win no matter what, they call the cards, they make up the games and rules people must play no matter what, they decide for all, they tell everyone what they must believe in and how they all must be innovators and study all these new fangled things (and act in certain ways, always answering smart phones and meetings and crap), always More Education crap, just to hose them all in the end. And anyways, if they didn't program you in a certain way, someone else will and anyways, any culture is always a useless worthless turd (no one ever demands free salaries and cheap rents, what should really be given out freely to all) and you can criticize and talk from now until forever, it will never and can never change, everyone plays along, there is nothing you can do about it but simply give up.

Like hoping the housing crisis brings down prices and such, no way jose, the winners will always win no matter what, the inequality is hard wired, is a constant, only a full out war and pure violence can overthrow any inequality, but then it will simply get substituted with another inequality and a new set of winners and losers and such. If homes are not bought, they will just wait and keep the prices high, if they are not built the prices will keep on going higher as fewer homes for ever more people, if they are built, the construction companies make profits anyways but you pay so much and so on. YOU NEVER CAN WIN, END OF STORY.

On the Instant People Constructor, on the Creation of People on the Spot, the new person and life (lifetime and life story) constructor machine that creates an entire life (of any age and environment and any life story) in an Instant by simply assigning a number to a memory location, well by a more perfected Brain in a Vat, or Brain in a Simulator, you just need one Brain working at very high speeds and frequencies to live trillions of lives in parallel, by multitasking the programs representing the lives in only one Brain. And you can imagine mixing lives, and creating all kinds of Short Circuits and experiences, and the Brain manipulating the Brain in the Simulator could be manipulated itself by another brain, or many brains, for many levels, trillions of levels. And if One Brain in a Vat is a trillion lives living simultaneously, the you can have trillions of Brains in Vats the Size of a Planet living even more lives, by high speed circuits in high speed Electronc Solid State Brain Devices, new brain designs, new wild universes, go on man, keep on inventing it all, go on.

THE APE MACHINE HAS SPOKEN ONCE AGAIN

[nameta9]

From:

http://kunstler.com/blog/2012/04/strange-jubilee-1.html

[James L Walker]

I think what I really object to is personae created by people in order to project something, or someone, they aren't, so as to emphasize or give reason to their beliefs.

Misrepresentation will almost always be discovered. It can be as simple as wondering how you, as a homeless man, drifting around the country, own a computer and are able to pay an ISP to support that computer.

It's these inconsistencies I question--not your thoughts.

Do not fucking talk to me anymore. I do not like being talked down to and I am sick of your bullshit replies to everything I have to say.

I have no respect for your arrogant conservative mind set.

This is how Joker responds to everyone who points out the inconsistencies in his fairy tales. Joker, you would probably do better to just drop the facade and admit you're a fantasist.

To Using My Own Pink Dildo On Myself:

Don't you have some chronic masturbation to attend to with your pink dildo?

[Contra-Nietzsche]

I have a family here thats been living on the side of apark restroom, with their belingings chocking a minivan here..... there are several old women homeless, and a toothless old man who doesnt own a shirt anymore climbing a mountain train..... at a pitifully slow rate, so he can climb up to his tree house.

Every damn city Ive been to in the last ten years has been overflowing with homeless. They are literally no different from you SIADT.... they though they could play the game, live frugally and wisely, and have what they want.... educated so they were safe. But everyone is brought up to get mortgadges, college debt, car payments, vacations..... a sudden unexpected shift in the economy you your nearing retirement entitlement age can dump your ass on the street. Do you know how many former software engineers are barely scrapping by now, who in the 90s were making 200,000+ ?

Whatever his Flawsm Walker, hes hardly unique. Hes been homeless for a few years, so the anger and neurosis chewed through him. Does to many, take time and interpersonal contact to change that. The kid in the meantime has shown the capacity to study and learn, and came to a philosophy revealing to his position in life, and has read well into it. Its a very close kin geneology wise to Nietzsche and Marx, which most of this forum takes after.

Walker isnt a finished product. Hes evolving, going through life changes, is articulating the contradictions in life as he can know and see it, and what causes him pain. He's not a bad guy for doing this.... hes actually trying to be.... honest. Honesty doesnt mean truth as in This is reality, just means hes not knowingly lying.

[Contra-Nietzsche]

Its alot more on his part in being truthful than most people here can admit to. He calls reality as he sees it. But hes also looking for away out for his child. Hes playing the part of the primordial man. Whereas most of us looking at him..... were repeating the lines we were fed and told, fall in line, do this and that, obey and not question, take these pills and accept this security we give you as happiness. And know even then.... you can fail despite following the public code of good conduct.... and if you fall, your a statistic and no one is going to give a fuck about you. Any character flaw can be assigned to your undoing after the fact.

[James L Walker]

Well said Contra. I always respect your candid honesty and articulate ways of saying things.

[lizbethrose]

I think a lot of people have been honest (for the most part) about the hardships and vicissitudes they've faced in life. We all face them. They're all very real. Some of us have experienced some of them at the 1st level of consciousness, which becomes, when we talk about them, the 2nd level of awareness in our talking about them, which then becomes the 3rd or 4th level of awareness for our listeners. I've not experienced homelessness, myself. I've not had this exact first level of consciousness, but I've had my own hardships which are equally horrendous to me. And I've had enough 2nd level experiences, usually through observation rather than through reading words, of what other people have faced and overcome. In other words, I have empathy.

Anyone can be anything they wish to be--on the internet--including me. All I'm asking is, if you create a persona in order to allow yourself to post your ideas, please be consistent in your details. Don't tell us how impossible it is for you to get simple health care because you have no insurance, while telling us about your pregnant girlfriend and her existing child who must be getting some sort of care, somehow--somewhere. Don't tell us all this and still talk about the new electronic toy you plan to buy when your income tax rebate comes.

And don't tell us about living on the side of a wet, horrible, mountain in the middle of an Hawaiian jungle--and then, in another thread, tell us how you're sure your cat doesn't realize why you clean her litter box.

Come on. It's fine to create a persona--it's expected and accepted. Just make your character complete and consistent. If you don't, there's going to be someone--usually like me--who'll question both your character and the veracity of what you have your character say. Be Abby Sciutto and create a fool-proof alternate identity for yourself, otherwise you'll be dead before the bad guys even get to you.

[SIATD v2]

This is how Joker responds to everyone who points out the inconsistencies in his fairy tales. Joker, you would probably do better to just drop the facade and admit you're a fantasist.

To Using My Own Pink Dildo On Myself:

Don't you have some chronic masturbation to attend to with your pink dildo?

You see, if Joker really were a homeless guy then he'd be more pissed off about being accused of having made up this fantasy. His whole persona, his whole story, is bullshit. An excuse for being a depressed, angry prick.

Every damn city Ive been to in the last ten years has been overflowing with homeless. They are literally no different from you SIADT....

You'll get no disagreement from me. I have no animosity towards the homeless, indeed I have a lot of sympathy for them. I just don't believe a word Joker says because to anyone with half a brain it just doesn't add up.

they though they could play the game, live frugally and wisely, and have what they want.... educated so they were safe. But everyone is brought up to get mortgadges, college debt, car payments, vacations..... a sudden unexpected shift in the economy you your nearing retirement entitlement age can dump your ass on the street. Do you know how many former software engineers are barely scrapping by now, who in the 90s were making 200,000+ ?

My advice to them would be not to work in industries prone to huge bubbles and crashes, and to find something more productive to do than make yet more software. They should count themselves lucky they were in a position to make $200,000+. And no doubt had they been a bit more sensible with their money then they wouldn't now be homeless. I don't have much sympathy for rich stupid people losing all their money through being stupid. I have a lot more sympathy for poor people crippled by the debt machine who will never have the chance to even become rich let alone then lose the money through being stupid.

Whatever his Flawsm Walker, hes hardly unique. Hes been homeless for a few years, so the anger and neurosis chewed through him.

I do not believe this for one second. His story makes no sense.

Does to many, take time and interpersonal contact to change that. The kid in the meantime has shown the capacity to study and learn, and came to a philosophy revealing to his position in life, and has read well into it. Its a very close kin geneology wise to Nietzsche and Marx, which most of this forum takes after.

Joker talks endless bollocks about things he doesn't understand, avoids dealing with all contradicting arguments, never produces any data when called to back up his ridiculous claims, constantly uses terms he has picked up in the mainstream media, doesn't appear to have read any of the philosophy he pays lip service to, and in general is extremely unpleasant towards anyone who calls him on his lies.

He is not someone that anyone here should look up to.

Walker isnt a finished product. Hes evolving, going through life changes, is articulating the contradictions in life as he can know and see it, and what causes him pain. He's not a bad guy for doing this.... hes actually trying to be.... honest. Honesty doesnt mean truth as in This is reality, just means hes not knowingly lying.

He is a fantasist and a liar. He is perhaps the most dishonest person on this website, and he does know that he is lying.

[Stoic Guardian]

I'm not saying I disagree with a lot of that, but i'm pretty sure he's not lying about being homeless.

[PavlovianModel146]

I guess I'm going to go ahead and comment on a few of Liz's points (we're always running into one another) and then clarify some things when it concerns James L. Walker.

Anyone can be anything they wish to be--on the internet--including me. All I'm asking is, if you create a persona in order to allow yourself to post your ideas, please be consistent in your details. Don't tell us how impossible it is for you to get simple health care because you have no insurance, while telling us about your pregnant girlfriend and her existing child who must be getting some sort of care, somehow--somewhere. Don't tell us all this and still talk about the new electronic toy you plan to buy when your income tax rebate comes.

And don't tell us about living on the side of a wet, horrible, mountain in the middle of an Hawaiian jungle--and then, in another thread, tell us how you're sure your cat doesn't realize why you clean her litter box.

Come on. It's fine to create a persona--it's expected and accepted. Just make your character complete and consistent. If you don't, there's going to be someone--usually like me--who'll question both your character and the veracity of what you have your character say. Be Abby Sciutto and create a fool-proof alternate identity for yourself, otherwise you'll be dead before the bad guys even get to you.

I would say that it's fine to create a persona, but I really don't see the need for it. I would say that people create personas, sometimes, because there are very few, if any, consequences of posting on a Message Board, provided one remains within legal limits. However, my argument would be that, because there are no real consequences, it should serve more than anything as a Forum to be as honest as possible, again, within legal limits and the limits of Forum Rules.

With respect to contradictions, and things of that nature, I tend not to question those because the extent to which they matter is infinitesimal. I am basically just here to challenge ideas, have my ideas challenged, and learn new stuff. I read damn near every thread in Natural Sciences, for instance, but rarely post because I still understand very close to jack about any kind of science.

I think everyone should be like Abby Sciutto in that she is extremely hot. I'm sorry, but I basically had to say that because she is on my Top 10 list of hottest TV personalities.

Moving on....

You see, if Joker really were a homeless guy then he'd be more pissed off about being accused of having made up this fantasy. His whole persona, his whole story, is bullshit. An excuse for being a depressed, angry prick.

I have no reason to believe that he was not homeless, at some point, because that is something that he has always maintained. Furthermore, while he is not strictly homeless at this point, the residence in which he lives is not his own, and I believe he has pointed that out.

I certainly believe him about not having a job, he is definitely interested in moving to my area and working at this hotel. I've spoken with him on the phone a number of times.

[James L Walker]

Thanks Pav for your defense of me.

I shall harpoon myself in divulging my personal information because I am not afraid of others judging me and attempt to silence the idiotic skepticism of this thread.

I have no problem revealing my personal life in a philosophical forum because in my opinion one of the biggest problems of philosophy is that it is too theoretical and idealistic in that it lacks reality.

To Liz and SIATD, so you doubt my posts thinking me a fraud? You know nothing at all taking things out of context.

I have been homless off and on five years now. Before I met my fiance she was homeless six years straight.

Me and her both met each other in Seattle homeless which is how we got together.

My current living is one where were both unemployed staying in the apartment of a friend. It is tough where I am at because the landlord could possibly squeeze all three of us out onto the streets because of complicating circumstances. I don't know where her and me will be two weeks from now. We could be on the streets again and I wouldn't know.

I have been looking for work here where I live but have not been able to find anything substantial. This is why I have been talking to Pav about working at his hotel.

I am not receiving unemployment due to ineligibility. I have $00.00 to my name.

I only have a three hundred dollar food stamp card that has already been spent for both me and her for this month. She is receiving healthcare because she is pregnant where we are both worried about having our child taken away from us if our situation does not approve.

The only possessions we both own are a couple of small personal items and the clothes on our backs.

The only reason me and her both have I- phones which I am using to transmit this message is because I bought them when I was working at a temp agency for two months. I used two months wages to purchase those two I- phones and spent the rest of the money on rent for our friend. I lost the temp job for losing too many days due to illness.

The thread in question by Liz where I was discussing about purchasing a labtop is because I was anticipating a large tax return from the government for years of working odd jobs prior to this year. I was definitely shocked to find out how I owed six hundred dollars to the IRS where I received nothing this year something of which I did not anticipate.

In making that thread about purchasing a labtop I also did not anticipate being unemployed so soon again either. So here I am with my fiance only having been off the streets for five months now.

[James L Walker]

Is that real enough for the both of you?

[James L Walker]

In the summer of 2011 Seattle-

I made a friend of this pregnant homeless woman where I went with her to a hospital for the birth of her daughter. She was so happy when her infant was born as she loved her new born daughter.

I was there with her to witness the birth of her daughter.

On the third day of her daughter being born a child protective services agent of the hospital came speaking of how the state would take possession of her duaghter where she was not to be allowed to leave the hospital with her. It was there I came to know the sadness and outrage of a parent losing their child.

The state case worker was rude and arrogant calling her unfit to be a mother where the government was doing her a favor by relieving her of the newborn.

She tried to fight for custody of her child but lost.

On the fourth day of her child being born her daughter like property was swept away taken by the state.

It was here that I learned how the family has become nothing but the property of the state to do whatever it sees fit with. It was also here I learned the concept of people being considered too poor to have a family where those poor often enough becomes punished by the state.

A newborn snatched up viciously without concern of the mother was the event.

If you are poor enough the state tells itself that it has the authority to do whatever it wants with you and your family.

The mother tried getting state assistance for a assisted living household for her and the newborn but ultimately failed still because of a high number of people waiting for the same thing ahead of her.

There was simply too little help available.

Last time I saw the mother she very verbally spoke about how she wanted to die and then she simply dissapeared. I never saw her again afterwards.

[Contra-Nietzsche]

I used to watch those thugs tear families apart, children crying as the mother and father tried to hold on to them as the cops snatched them away. But really fucked up families like my crazy mother.... literally crazy, was allowed to continue on. They target the ones who love and have a sense of family. Have you ever heard of Marsilius of Padua? His book In Defence of the Peace? I suggest you read it. Also, you need to leave in the morning for Ohio. No longer snowing. Even if pav isnt ready yet, you gotta go. Get some kind of part time job or whatever till you can ship the moo cow over. She cant make it alone perhaps, but youll lose everything if you stay. Move now, get a job and your state ID Card turned over ASAP. You can claim the child if need be, and get pav to vouche you have a address.

[lizbethrose]

Okay, James, you are what you say you are--just as I am who I say I am. It makes you angry if you're not believed; it makes me angry if people assume I am what I'm not and use those assumptions to somehow degrade who I am. You've been homeless; I don't live in a gated community. You are among the poor of this country who is struggling; my family is a part of the middle-class that's fast disappearing. I don't think your friend's newborn would have been treated any differently in any other state; our child came to us through a voluntary adoption.

Children have been placed in foster care in every state. Some enter 'the system' and are passed from foster home to foster home. In order for them to become adoptable before a certain age, there must first be legal relinquishing by both birth parents. If one disappears and the other isn't known, the child cannot be adopted.

Homelessness is a very real reason for Welfare Services to take a child. If a mother can't care for herself, how can she care for a child? There've been cases where the mother abused drugs during her pregnancy and gives birth to a drug dependent child with functional disorders. There've been cases of young children returned to their birth mothers to face a life of abuse--even death--either from their birth mothers or from their birth mothers' companions. I'd say, although I'm probably mistaken in your mind, that most of the kids are placed into loving foster homes where they flourish and grow into functional adults. There's little difference, other than the law, between a loving foster parent and a loving adoptive parent--both of us cherish our children.

Go to Ohio. I understand what Pav's offering you is another $8/hr. job. I don't mean that to be snide, but you've had those types of jobs before. The minimum wage in Ohio for a 40hr work week is $7.70/hr., so you'll be earning more than the minimum wage. If he's also offering you a place for you and your family to live--go for it! Why hesitate?

[SIATD v2]

Is that real enough for the both of you?

Nope. If you were working a temp job, and were missing days due to illness, then why buy not just one iPhone but two? For someone who appears to pride himself on how great he is/was/would be in a survival situation, this seems like lunacy. In fact, it would be lunacy for someone who was crap in a survival situation, let alone someone proclaiming himself the Bear Grills of Seattle.

So either you're a fantasist, or a lunatic, or both.

IT JUST DOESN'T ADD UP. DO NOT BELIEVE THIS MAN.

[SIATD v2]

You see, if Joker really were a homeless guy then he'd be more pissed off about being accused of having made up this fantasy. His whole persona, his whole story, is bullshit. An excuse for being a depressed, angry prick.

I have no reason to believe that he was not homeless, at some point, because that is something that he has always maintained. Furthermore, while he is not strictly homeless at this point, the residence in which he lives is not his own, and I believe he has pointed that out.

Given how angry Joker gets about things that don't personally affect him, he doesn't seem remotely pissed off at being accused of lying about this. There's your reason.

But if you want further reasons, you're talking about a man who claims to be an anarchist and a social Darwinist, yet complains that there isn't enough state help for people in bad situations. You're talking about a man who proclaims he's been homeless on and off for five years, yet clearly has no sense of the value of things since as soon as he had some money he bought TWO iPhones, the most overpriced consumer electronics on the market. You're talking about a man who bangs on about personal responsibility, how most people are pathetic leeches on the strong, yet is having a baby he has absolutely no way of supporting. You're talking about a man who lies consistently about everything else he talks about, yet for some reason you believe him about this.

Frankly, I think anyone who believes what Joker says about anything is massively naive. His Disney-style sob stories not only don't make any sense, they come from a perspective that is unlike any homeless person I've ever met. And I've met quite a few.

I certainly believe him about not having a job, he is definitely interested in moving to my area and working at this hotel. I've spoken with him on the phone a number of times.

My prediction is that he might turn up, but will be a terrible worker because he considers the job beneath him due to his massively egotistical superiority complex/Darwinist world view. He will insult your customers, piss off the staff, blame anyone and everything else whenever he does something wrong and will ultimately resent you when you inevitably sack him. Now, I'm just guessing, but it's a guess based on every single exhibition of Joker's views, personality and behaviour that I've seen over the last few years. I could be wrong.

In any case, I applaud your efforts to help him, even if I do think trying to help him is futile until he abandons his fantasies and bullshit beliefs about the world.

[FilmSnob]

Your holyness has spoken!

[James L Walker]

Your holyness has spoken!

Pink Dildo is quite the character, right?

For some reason he thinks poor people are not allowed to own electronics or goods.

The shock of it all.

I guess he thinks poor people should just mope in their empty broken homes with nothing to do all the time like caged animals inside their kennels.

[James L Walker]

I used to watch those thugs tear families apart, children crying as the mother and father tried to hold on to them as the cops snatched them away. But really fucked up families like my crazy mother.... literally crazy, wfas allowed to continue on. They target the ones who love and have a sense of family. Have you ever heard of Marsilius of Padua? His book In Defence of the Peace? I suggest you read it. Also, you need to leave in the morning for Ohio. No longer snowing. Even if pav isnt ready yet, you gotta go. Get some kind of part time job or whatever till you can ship the moo cow over. She cant make it alone perhaps, but youll lose everything if you stay. Move now, get a job and your state ID Card turned over ASAP. You can claim the child if need be, and get pav to vouche you have a address.

Believe me Contra were trying to get to Ohio ASAP. It is a dead end up here in Wisconsin.

If all else fails we both would rather retreat to the mountains of the Virginias or the Bayou of Lousianna.

There is not much government in both areas and the wild has never failed me as sanctuary. Laughs.

[James L Walker]

To Lorraine also known as Liz:

There is no hesitation on my part. The only reason I have not gone to Ohio yet is because me and Pav are working out the finer portions of the arrangement.

I have no problems with eight dollars a hour forty hours a week. I have survived on much less.

Besides everything will not matter much longer anyways with that whole global economic collapse and possible start of world war thing. I am a crash optimist!

You cannot know what it is like to be homeless until you have actually experienced it.

You must live in the gulag slums to know. You must have everything taken from you.

You must have all your individual independence stripped from you and be reduced to a life of slavery.

You must know what it is like being kicked out to the curb being called worthless by others being outcast. Only having experienced all of that would you know. You are nowhere close to that.

You being a government supporter it does not surprise me what you think about the mother on the account of what I have told. Was it not you awhile ago who said that not everything is so white and black? Now look at yourself with your own judgements.

The typical metanarrative is that most homeless are drug addicts or mental lunatics a view that the state likes pushed onto the collective conciousness of the general public.

The reality is much different where most simply don't have the means to survive within society.

Until you have a child taken away from you forget what it is that you think what it is you know.

You don't know. You only know what they tell you in what they want you to hear.

Their worldview is not to be trusted with all their conditioned and taught fake experts, agents, or service people. Obedient sychophants all of them.

Someday maybe you will understand where I am coming from.

[SIATD v2]

Your holyness has spoken!

Pink Dildo is quite the character, right?

For some reason he thinks poor people are not allowed to own electronics or goods.

The shock of it all.

I guess he thinks poor people should just mope in their empty broken homes with nothing to do all the time like caged animals inside their kennels.

Not at all.

I think poor people who have lived on the streets for five years have a better sense of the value of things than to blow their first paypacket in a long time on something that is a vastly overpriced consumer electronic good aimed at people with more money than sense.

Though unsurprisingly you've found your usual means of avoiding the issue of your lies - you try to turn my position into something it isn't and then attack it. A cheap and obvious tactic that does nothing to defend or justify your increasingly blatant deceit.

[James L Walker]

Your holyness has spoken!

Pink Dildo is quite the character, right?

For some reason he thinks poor people are not allowed to own electronics or goods.

The shock of it all.

I guess he thinks poor people should just mope in their empty broken homes with nothing to do all the time like caged animals inside their kennels.

Not at all.

I think poor people who have lived on the streets for five years have a better sense of the value of things than to blow their first paypacket in a long time on something that is a vastly overpriced consumer electronic good aimed at people with more money than sense.

Though unsurprisingly you've found your usual means of avoiding the issue of your lies - you try to turn my position into something it isn't and then attack it. A cheap and obvious tactic that does nothing to defend or justify your increasingly blatant deceit.

To Preacher Pink Dildo Man:

Do you know how unbearable and boring it is having nothing all the time?

You try it sometime. Fat chance at that with your self righteousness.

You act like it is a crime to want or self indulge in something.

A i-phone is the most expensive thing I own. Kinda sad if you think about it.

In Africa for many individuals cellphones are the most expensive things they own too beyond the shirts on their backs.

[James L Walker]

To Preacher Of The Pink Dildo Cult:

I am not complaining that the state is not helping me out enough or others.

I have forsakened both state and government. I merely pointing out it's inadequacies and contradictions.

Yes, I do believe in social darwinism but only without government intervention in a existence of anarchy.

There are no rules, laws, or morality in the jungle and bush. There is only survival of the smartest, strongest, and ruthless.

It is for that reason government supporters who believe in social darwinism contradict themselves where they misinterpret social darwinism just like the global elites do.

You can't be a government supporter and social darwinist. That is a contradiction.

You can't have both.

In a existence of social darwinism there is no need for government as it is every person out for and defending themselves without aid for others.

That also means rulers can be challenged, competed, and targeted against daily face to face for power or resources something that is completely lacking in a government police state where rulers are insulated seperated from everybody else.

[Stoic Guardian]

You can't be a government supporter and social darwinist. That is a contradiction.

I don't think so.