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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Thu May 24, 2012 7:30 am

Did you ever watch that play I told you about Harley, Sartre's In Camera/No Exit? It would be useful right now in understanding Satyr. I knew him on another forum besides this one, though predominately this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mshvqdva0vY

If you watch this, then you've read a work of a major philosopher. Stick around, and we'll all give you more. It seems rather large- philosophy, but it really isn't that big, it's quite survivable once you get your niche and get to know a little about the big names. It will help you someday in a college examination.

My godmother is now a associate professor, but she married with no education, and was abused. She got out of the situation and was asked what she wanted to do- she was a housewife who knew nothing of life, with two kids..... she said 'become a professor' and now she is one.

It's possible at any level. Philosophy is a good basis for learning other fields and trades- at the very least you'll write nice essays.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Smears » Thu May 24, 2012 7:43 am

Yes ws. I like idiots, and I like assholes, but its like the opposite of sour cream and onion. I like those together, but an idiot acting like an asshole is just totally unappealing.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Stoic Guardian » Thu May 24, 2012 7:54 am

Smears wrote:Satyr is a chicken hawk who's just articulate enough to confuse young men like James into a state of dissonance. I don't know if he does it on purpose, or if he really isn't aware of the consequences of his alleged beliefs. He's essentially a pedophile except he only fucks the little boys mind. He looks for weak ones who wanna be strong and does the whole nietzsche/evolutionary biology schtick. All in all pretty boring. That's why his forum has about 8 members.


:lol: I rememmber one time i was talking to satyr and kriswest warned me about that. :lol:
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby lizbethrose » Thu May 24, 2012 8:58 am

Well, you're still here, harley--You can let is know if Joker ever overcomes his aversion to work, gets a job, and stops treating you as his private play thing. If this hurts you, it hurts you, so be it. His treatment of you has been worse than abusive!
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Stoic Guardian » Thu May 24, 2012 9:10 am

What?
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Thu May 24, 2012 9:33 am

Stoic.... geeze. Situational awareness, pay attention to the shadows not just on the ground but in how people are reacting.

In the military, you'll be trained to identify elements of abuse and excessive control.... starts off small, little things, then builds up to verbal control, then property, then physical, animals, children and spouse, then 'bam bam bam'. Walker isn't a case of physical abuse yet, but he's substituting her in weird ways as a showcase, and isn't valuating her anymore. It's the beginning stages.

Once it reaches humans, either within the family or to another soldier, you've failed, both are horrific in different ways. I nearly lost my roommate because I neglected him in allowing him to take pills like Esctacy- lead to other stuff. Neglecting to read and consider the signs is a sign that your not cut out to be a leader even at the lowest level. Situational Awareness and Loyalty, and Intestinal Fortitude to carry through it.... you'll need it more for this sort of situation than anything on the battlefield. War is easy, each man's psychology is difficult.

It's why you take action even when other don't, even when they mock you and put you down for it.

He is in the early stages, but it's a clear progression. Military would of booted him long before he arrived at the level of animal torture. They will keep guys on that have the bi-polar issue or whatever.... it's when they start exhibiting signs of something else that they will boot you. And yes, it's always unscientific, it's always personal, a sledgehammer that crushes more than it ever should, but inevitably when wielded will crush the one it's after.

If you wanna get ahead, read a few relationship and family psychology books. Have a chit-chat with the Chaplin not about religion but books to read on this very subject. It's not all guts and glory..... but being a good soldier means looking out for others, and getting them from A to Z as sane and complete as possible. Even the cats.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Stoic Guardian » Thu May 24, 2012 9:41 am

Ok
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby iambiguous » Thu May 24, 2012 4:50 pm

phyllo wrote:
I was permanently banned there for "possible trolling". In reality they booted me for doing there exactly the same thing I do here: bring philosophy down to earth.
So you admit to 'possible trolling' here as well. Interesting. :-k


What sort of logic is this? I was accused of trolling. I was not trolling. Instead I was called a troll in order to have an excuse to boot me from a venue owned and operated by the "academic sorts" perturbed by the extent to which philosophy may well be of limited value out in the world of actual human interaction.

I merely interpolate Wittgenstein's speculations here into topics revolving around identity, value judgments and objective reality.

And the reaction of some to that is: :o

But I am an ironist who does not exclude himself from his own irony. So I often close with this instead: :wink:
Someone dying asks if there is life after death. Yes, comes the answer, only not yours.

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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby phyllo » Thu May 24, 2012 5:26 pm

What sort of logic is this? I was accused of trolling. I was not trolling. Instead I was called a troll in order to have an excuse to boot me from a venue owned and operated by the "academic sorts" perturbed by the extent to which philosophy may well be of limited value out in the world of actual human interaction.
I don't know why you are still peeved about it. You go in there and tell them, repeatedly, that their life's work is of limited value. What did you expect? To convert them? To what?
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby iambiguous » Thu May 24, 2012 5:52 pm

phyllo wrote:
What sort of logic is this? I was accused of trolling. I was not trolling. Instead I was called a troll in order to have an excuse to boot me from a venue owned and operated by the "academic sorts" perturbed by the extent to which philosophy may well be of limited value out in the world of actual human interaction.
I don't know why you are still peeved about it. You go in there and tell them, repeatedly, that their life's work is of limited value. What did you expect? To convert them? To what?


I never used belittling language of that sort. But I was often accused of not being a "real philosopher". And I would ask, "well, how does a real philosopher approach the relationship [existentially] between human identity, value judgments and objective reality?"

What I expected was intelligent discussion. What I got instead was the sort of reaction Bruce Wilshire encountered from the APA in Fashionable Nihilism: A Critique of Analytic Philosophy.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Sauwelios » Thu May 24, 2012 5:57 pm

phyllo wrote:A permanent ban is harsh. Some of the stuff he posted deserved a temporary ban.

I suggest he gets both, then.
"Let us dwell a moment on this symptom of highest culture—I call it the pessimism of strength. [...]
In such a state it is precisely the good that needs 'justifying,' i.e., it must be founded in evil and danger or involve some great stupidity: then it still pleases. [...] If he [man] in praxi advocates the preservation of virtue, he does it for reasons that recognize in virtue a subtlety, a cunning, a form of lust for gain and power.
This pessimism of strength also ends in a theodicy, i.e., in an absolute affirmation of the world—but for the very reasons that formerly led one to deny it—and in this fashion to a conception of this world as the actually-achieved highest possible ideal." (Source: Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 1019; Kaufman translation.)
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Fri May 25, 2012 3:32 am

I can't believe you said that after all the praise Walker leaped upon you Sauwelios. He was starting to come around to your point of view.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Sauwelios » Fri May 25, 2012 4:47 am

Contra-Nietzsche wrote:I can't believe you said that after all the praise Walker leaped upon you Sauwelios. He was starting to come around to your point of view.

I was actually making a funny. I fear, however, that "starting to come around to my point of view" just means that your view of his point of view was starting to approximate your view of my point of view. And what did you mean by "Sauwelios Stormfront forum discussion", anyway?
"Let us dwell a moment on this symptom of highest culture—I call it the pessimism of strength. [...]
In such a state it is precisely the good that needs 'justifying,' i.e., it must be founded in evil and danger or involve some great stupidity: then it still pleases. [...] If he [man] in praxi advocates the preservation of virtue, he does it for reasons that recognize in virtue a subtlety, a cunning, a form of lust for gain and power.
This pessimism of strength also ends in a theodicy, i.e., in an absolute affirmation of the world—but for the very reasons that formerly led one to deny it—and in this fashion to a conception of this world as the actually-achieved highest possible ideal." (Source: Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 1019; Kaufman translation.)
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Fri May 25, 2012 5:59 am

google Satyr and Forum.... a bunch of forums pop up, including your old one, and the post it shows it the stormfront one. Check it out yourself, it's how I rediscovered your site, via that post.

It's your fault for making most of the posts unviewable, that one naturally popped up. In fairness, I did list that site as a alternative in the thread here on this site asking for new, more philosophical forums. Figure you must of solved the deeper mysteries of the universe in long, well thought out essays in those sections no one but your elect few can view.

The Walker thing was a joke to make you feel bad. I notice Cezar never joined your site either, or the mysterious Sonnen.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Helandhighwater » Fri May 25, 2012 9:40 am

You can't actually permanently ban anyone, but judging by how notorious these people are its also unlikely they will change there posting habits either. So in their case you can. You just can't permanently ban anyone who is willing to stay under the radar at least until established.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Sauwelios » Fri May 25, 2012 5:46 pm

Contra-Nietzsche wrote:google Satyr and Forum.... a bunch of forums pop up, including your old one, and the post it shows it the stormfront one. Check it out yourself, it's how I rediscovered your site, via that post.

Ah, yes, I remember that thread now. I just reread it, and apart from some automatic censorship, I think it was pretty good (in another thread, the word "women" was automatically and consistently changed to "juices"...).


It's your fault for making most of the posts unviewable, that one naturally popped up. In fairness, I did list that site as a alternative in the thread here on this site asking for new, more philosophical forums. Figure you must of solved the deeper mysteries of the universe in long, well thought out essays in those sections no one but your elect few can view.

Something like that, yes.


The Walker thing was a joke to make you feel bad. I notice Cezar never joined your site either, or the mysterious Sonnen.

I think Cezar knew he would be banned for life plus thirty years at once.
"Let us dwell a moment on this symptom of highest culture—I call it the pessimism of strength. [...]
In such a state it is precisely the good that needs 'justifying,' i.e., it must be founded in evil and danger or involve some great stupidity: then it still pleases. [...] If he [man] in praxi advocates the preservation of virtue, he does it for reasons that recognize in virtue a subtlety, a cunning, a form of lust for gain and power.
This pessimism of strength also ends in a theodicy, i.e., in an absolute affirmation of the world—but for the very reasons that formerly led one to deny it—and in this fashion to a conception of this world as the actually-achieved highest possible ideal." (Source: Nietzsche, The Will to Power, section 1019; Kaufman translation.)
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Contra-Nietzsche » Fri May 25, 2012 6:43 pm

He didn't even try to ban the Christian Overman persona when I first signed up for Cezar's Ethics forum.... he just destroyed the site itself. I don't think that was very ethical. I wish Cezar would be brave enough to discuss Ethics openly with others.
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby thezeus18 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:54 am

SIATD v2 wrote:Harley/W-Girl

You probably won't get the not very subtle allusion I'm making to a prior poster here who was, like Joker, banapermed. But some people will.

Data:
James L Walker wrote:I am engaged sucker. Got blown yesterday. It was great.


Portent:

Joker would rather win an argument on an internet forum than maintain your dignity.


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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby Typist » Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:43 pm

thezeus18 wrote:I am engaged sucker. Got blown yesterday. It was great.


An even though I was the interviewer who elicited this priceless gem, I still have no legacy thread of my own! I've been trying to get banned, but it seems I'm not as good at it as James. Perhaps that explains my lack of fame?

Hold on a second. Is James the sucker, or the suckee?? Now I'm all confused! I'll never get this right!!
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Re: James L Walker Permanently Banned

Postby thezeus18 » Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:24 pm

I didn't write that!
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