I honestly don’t think Europe is capable of competently pulling off a world war right now… we tried hard as hell to stabilize Europe during the Bush administration, but they proved to incompetent. We brought the border regions- Spain, Italy, Ukraine, and Poland… places that would be the first to take a invasion, into the war with us, and all but Poland took a massive shit all over themselves doing simple tasks, like loading up in their vehicles, and going on patrols, and making sure the syrians or iranians were NOT setting up stockpiles, fortifying killzones, etc. Complete failure. Right now, we’re stuck with the baby steps… trying to get Romania and Bulgaria up and running. I swear to God, Europe is the Anti-Skynet from Terminator 3… you pump all this money and technology into it over generations to unify it, stabilize and modernize it, and then unleash it for a relatively simple defense operation… and it’s starts to shake and vomit and then putters out into a emo trip and falls apart.
If a civil war broke out across Europe, I doubt most nations would successfully pull it off. Yes, they understand logistics, but the means of pushing on and taking a ojective, much less preparing ground and defending it is beyond them. Europe’s become the second world essentially, but with third world passions and first world technology. Libya and near universal hesitancy in pushing into Syria is evidence of this.
Everything SAIDT said was largely incomprehensible, other than the generic fuck you americans. Europe was the repeated cause that dragged the US into world wars. And Russians and British are indeed European, as is Malta, Greece, Istanbul, Poland, Sardinia, Majorica, Norway, Lithuania, all spiraling inward. Hamburg and Paris isn’t more european than warsaw or athens or dublin. It’s what you are. Nebraska isn’t more North American than Anchorage or Quebec or Miami.
However, all said, Europe is more than capable of fighting a incompetent grouping of continental wars, as well as randomly projecting force into africa half assed… but still enough for the time being to overtake the African Union or Arab League- but not for long. If Europe goes down the shithole, you can kiss the Spanish possessions off Morocco goodbye. In time, alot of French oversees departments will go bye bye. You’ll likely see african peacekeepers such as EOTC come to Europe via the UN to help put and police these border disputes and failed governments. And I suspect NATO will continue to exist in a odd, bullshit form through this all, not really doing anything effective given the SAIDT Phenomena of everyone blaiming everyone else, and pretending like the last scuffle that happened was a abnormality and everything will go back to ‘normal’.
Unfortunately, back stabbing and delusion is the European way, and it is the normal state of affairs reasserting itself.
I am completely for a military pullout of Germany and most of Europe- stick around for a few years more to give Poland a chance- 20th century was pretty cruel to them, so I say, since they stuck it out in Iraq, give them the best chance of surviving the upcoming wars. England has one hell of a Moat, everyone else fuck em. Let’s pull out after electing SAIDT Prime Minister of Europe.
Obvious way out- what the US did when we switched from the Articles of Confederation to the Current Constitution. Like, seriously, we stopped a European style meltdown from happening via it. Even during out Civil War is wasn’t a state by state collapse, but a BLOC mentality, and both sides knew what they were doing, and still had enough of a economy to feed a large chunk of western europe, especially England. I don’t see Europe doing this is the melt down continues, producing enough food for North America while building up the largest and most complex military administration and most advanced tactics and understanding of poloircretics ever known in the history of man. They will all just collapse into their little city states and regions, and will cry country and internationalism while backstabbing one another over absurdities. Maybe a soverign country intact here or there.
I notice Switzerland after all this time has never given pause to maintaining it’s extreme defensive stance. They still don’t trust the crazy Europeans. They like… know better from experience. Everyone in Europe acts all civil for a generation or two, then shits a brick and goes insane, breaking stuff left and right. Switzerland isn’t having anything to do with that stuff. They picked up by now the strategy is to just stay the hell away from their fluctuations, and make a little money on the side when you can playing their stupid economics.