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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:37 pm

Abstract wrote:
arcturus rising wrote:"Live abundantly, but thoughtlessly with a huge capacity to forget – seeking to avoid over analysis and not to learn so much from mistakes as to never make another leap’!
krossie phader - on How to live unphilosophically!
:) :banana-dance:


Blasphemy!!! :D

Perhaps what krossie was talking about are our endless, fruitless thoughts...we have many of those. And can you even begin to imagine our world if we practiced forgetfulness, insofar as things we feel have been done to us; learn from them and move on. I am one who over-analyses and at times can become like a dog chasing her own tail. Any time we take a leap, as humans we may make a mistake but not to take a leap - ah, sheer cowardice! But before that leap, in an instant, we balance all, call all to mind (Yeats-love that phrase) and then LEAP!

Basically, I think krossie's adage here is about balance...and a lot of wisdom in it. The trouble with this world is that there is NOT enough of the right kind of blasphemy being heard within it. :evilfun:
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Abstract » Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:03 pm

arcturus rising wrote:
Abstract wrote:
arcturus rising wrote:"Live abundantly, but thoughtlessly with a huge capacity to forget – seeking to avoid over analysis and not to learn so much from mistakes as to never make another leap’!
krossie phader - on How to live unphilosophically!
:) :banana-dance:


Blasphemy!!! :D

Perhaps what krossie was talking about are our endless, fruitless thoughts...we have many of those. And can you even begin to imagine our world if we practiced forgetfulness, insofar as things we feel have been done to us; learn from them and move on. I am one who over-analyses and at times can become like a dog chasing her own tail. Any time we take a leap, as humans we may make a mistake but not to take a leap - ah, sheer cowardice! But before that leap, in an instant, we balance all, call all to mind (Yeats-love that phrase) and then LEAP!

Basically, I think krossie's adage here is about balance...and a lot of wisdom in it. The trouble with this world is that there is NOT enough of the right kind of blasphemy being heard within it. :evilfun:

yes I would think it is meant to be for balance implicitly, but it allows for one to lend to taking that too far.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Abstract » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:25 am

"The Angels fly because they take themselves lightly." Gilbert K. Chesterton
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:35 pm

Abstract wrote:
yes I would think it is meant to be for balance implicitly, but it allows for one to lend to taking that too far.

This is why 'practiced balance' is learned balance. It becomes second nature to us.

"Don't believe what your eyes are telling you. All they show is limitation. Look with your understanding, find out what you already know, and you'll see the way to fly.”
Richard Bach - Jonathan Livingston Seagull


"What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly." Richard Bach (Illusions)
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~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:21 am

No one but Night, with tears on her dark face,
Watches beside me in this windy place.

~Edna St. Vincent Millay
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:17 pm

Be patient with all that is resolved in your heart; try to love the questions themselves; do not Now seek the answers; which cannot be given, because you would not be able to live them. And the point is to live everything Now. Perhaps you will then gradually without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answers.
Rainer Maria Rilke
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:02 pm

A tree which moves some to tears of joy is in the eyes of others a green thing which stands in the way. As a man IS, so he SEES.
William Blake
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Philosopher8659 » Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:53 am

My greatest wisdom is my deepest silence."

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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby FilmSnob » Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:27 am

Más sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo.

"More knows the devil from being old than from being devil."
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:16 pm

“Should you shield the canyons from the windstorms you would never see the true beauty of their carvings!”
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Abstract » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:08 pm

"Live by the word, die by the sword."

Live by philosophy....
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:19 pm

Irish Blessings

May you have the hindsight to know where you've been
the foresight to know where you're going
and the insight to know when you're going too far.


May you have warm words on a cold evening,
a full moon on a dark night,
and the road downhill all the way to your door.
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby FilmSnob » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:51 pm

A gentleman can always walk away, but he never runs away.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:45 pm

Pezer wrote:A gentleman can always walk away, but he bever runs away.

Why not? He might, under certain circumstances, if he is a true gentleman and wishes to do no harm, no?
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby FilmSnob » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:46 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:
Pezer wrote:A gentleman can always walk away, but he bever runs away.

Why not? He might, under certain circumstances, if he is a true gentleman and wishes to do no harm, no?


If he can't walk his way out of there, a gentleman must always stay and face the situation.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:53 pm

Pezer wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:
Pezer wrote:A gentleman can always walk away, but he bever runs away.

Why not? He might, under certain circumstances, if he is a true gentleman and wishes to do no harm, no?


If he can't walk his way out of there, a gentleman must always stay and face the situation.

In the face of futility, speed pawns courage. But there is still courage and wisdom in risking being seen as a coward.
Even a warrior knows when to count his losses and run. Cowardice or true vision? :evilfun:
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby FilmSnob » Sat Mar 17, 2012 4:54 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote:In the face of futility, speed pawns courage. But there is still courage and wisdom in risking being seen as a coward.
Even a warrior knows when to count his losses and run. Cowardice or true vision? :evilfun:


A gentleman would rather get slain. In any case, a gentleman that got himself in a situation that he can't win deserves to lose, and will do it willingly.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:10 pm

Pezer wrote:
Arcturus Descending wrote:In the face of futility, speed pawns courage. But there is still courage and wisdom in risking being seen as a coward.
Even a warrior knows when to count his losses and run. Cowardice or true vision? :evilfun:


A gentleman would rather get slain. In any case, a gentleman that got himself in a situation that he can't win deserves to lose, and will do it willingly.

So for the first, a gentleman is one in which the will to live has abandoned him?
As for the second, aikido?
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby FilmSnob » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:17 pm

Aikido? Very much so. The Samurai where bonafide gentlemen.

The first question is answered above. A samurai doesn't have a will to live, he has a will to be a warrior. Part of his code as a warrior is being a gentleman.
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Sha Tara » Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:59 pm

We are not only surrounded by, but exist in, something author Dan Simmons calls "the Void which Binds."
It has loosely been called "Spirit" and Universal Intelligence or Mind.
We are individuals connected to everything else, not only by awareness or DNA, but by compassion... or lack thereof.
We find ourselves constantly at a crossroads of terrible choice: to promote, enhance, build, honor, bless -- or to destroy.
No place was ever made to house the ones who would remain indecisive in this matter.
Mind evolution forces us to choose life or death.
There are no surprises in the Void which Binds and the advertised short-cuts do not exist.
(from an essay: What Does Becoming Human Mean – by Sha'Tara)
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:34 pm

The closest to being in control we will ever be is in that moment that we realize we're not.
Brian Kessler
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:03 pm

In real life, however, you don't react to what someone did; you react only to what you think she did, and the gap between action and perception is bridged by the art of impression management. If life itself is but what you deem it, then why not focus your efforts on persuading others to believe that you are a virtuous and trustworthy cooperator?
Jonathan Haidt, The Happiness Hypothesis: Finding Modern Truth in Ancient Wisdom, 2005
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby V-OutOfTheWilderness » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:51 pm

"The swirl of a galaxy and the swirl of a gown resemble one another not merely by accident, but because they follow the grain of the universe.''
- "Hunting for Hope'' - Scott Russell Sanders
"My point, once again, is not that those ancient people told literal stories and we are now smart enough to take them symbolically, but that they told them symbolically and we are now dumb enough to take them literally." – John Dominic Crossan

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When gods wish to punish they answer our prayers ...

“We're making it up. The world, the universe, life, reality. Especially reality.”
― Tom Robbins

It's not God I have a problem with. It's his fan club ....
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:10 pm

V-OutOfTheWilderness wrote:"The swirl of a galaxy and the swirl of a gown resemble one another not merely by accident, but because they follow the grain of the universe.''
- "Hunting for Hope'' - Scott Russell Sanders

I loved that.
Round and Round they danced and swirled.


The dance is a poem of which each movement is a word"
- Mata Hari
~ Carlos Ruiz Zafon

“One of the pitfalls of childhood is that one doesn't have to understand something to feel it. By the time the mind is able to comprehend what has happened, the wounds of the heart are already too deep.”

“But in good time you'll see that sometimes what matters isn't what one gives but what one gives up.”

A room without books ..is like a body without a soul.”

“I couldn't help thinking that if I, by pure chance, had found a whole universe in a single unknown book, buried in that endless necropolis, tens of thousands more would remain unexplored, forgotten forever. I felt myself surrounded by millions of abandoned pages, by worlds and souls without an owner sinking in an ocean of darkness, while the world that throbbed outside the library seemed to be losing its memory, day after day, unknowingly, feeling all the wiser the more it forgot.”
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Re: Adages & Proverbs

Postby Selah7+ » Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:25 am

THE FEAR OF THE LORD IS THE BEGINNING OF KNOWLEDGE, BUT FOOLS DESPISE WISDOM AND INSTRUCTION. PROVERBS 1:7
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