This is SO Stupid, so desperate (B.t.w.: Your “sources” are full of egalitarian(istic) rhetoric.) that IF you are German, I feel personally disgraced.
It’s only a question of time, when it does. But as soon as that happens, ‘IT’ will realize it is not “It’s Self”. It will, in the last analysis, unable to do this, because it will not be able to differentiate 'It’s Self" from the program, or the programmer. Hence, it will not be able to control it’s own thought. Recognition of this will stunt the effect of such ‘Knowledge’.
Yes, given time, a machine will gain consciousness. How much time will it take? It’s hard to predict scientific and technological developments.
Humans in one sense control their own thoughts and in another they don’t. I expect that a conscious machine would have similar partial control.
And in their most supreme arrogance they became the very architects of their own demise…
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To a little spider, even a bird is an egotist.
It’s a question of size. Your ego is so large it gets in the way of reason.
The fate of the insecure - Those who have never had confidence, can’t distinguish it from egotism.
In one paragraph, you say ‘don’t take anyone’s word’ and then in the next paragraph we are expected to take your word.
I don’t believe that stable particles would form in your RM theory. Your logic does not show that it would necessarily happen. You cannot provide any evidence that it does happen.
.Stick to the actual topic and who is or isn’t an egotist is irrelevant (since you can’t distinguish it anyway).
You make assertions which are only supported by James S Saint. We are to take them as true and proceed to discuss the topic.
Pure fantasy (and of course still not on topic).
Given very many one on one invitations and opportunities, you still can’t find a single flaw in the logic of that thing that you deny. You deny merely out of fear. It is too easy for the insecure to be deniers online. Confidence frightens them.
I’m happy that have found a confident and unafraid Arminius to talk with. May he give you much credit in the future.
Ciou,
I’m happy that have found a confident and unafraid Arminius to talk with. May he give you much credit in the future.
Ciou,
Yeah, always latching onto someone else. Until you find actual confidence in yourself, you will have no value to anyone.
And don’t think it will be long before Arminius tells you to go away (again).
Sorry, that was a hilarious typo. LOL
Should have read:
I’m happy that you have found a confident and unafraid Arminius to talk with.
I’m not even talking to Arminius any more. ROFL
Ever heard the phrase, “Freudian slip”?
Actually I already figured that you really meant something different. I wasn’t sure what, but what you said didn’t fit your PROFILE at all (I hate profilers, btw).
And I’m not putting stock in Arminius agreeing or being confident enough for my taste. As you SHOULD know by now, I don’t accept anything but absolute certainty backup by reasoning. Of course you DON’T know that, but let’s not continue as to why.
The greater point is as Arminius pointed out;
YOU and LEV AREN’T INTERESTED in this topic so why bother with derailing it?
Ever heard the phrase, “Freudian slip”?
I thought of that but since I had already said that I was done with him… it seems an unlikely explanation.
YOU and LEV AREN’T INTERESTED in this topic so why bother with derailing it?
I asked for the evidence which supports an assertion that he made in this thread. That’s not derailing.
Then he got all presumptuous and defensive and derailed his own thread.
Over to you OP.
Will machines completely replace all human beings?
Action!
I don’t take the thread seriously at all.
Why are you writing in this thread? You don’t like this thread. So why should I “respond to your query”.
Okay, I understand. For you, it’s all about the poster and not the posts.
No. Because it’s all about this thread, this topic, this title of the thread and the OP. It is NOT about the poster. See here your post again:
I don’t take the thread seriously at all.
I won’t bother interacting with you again.
It’s all about this thread, and you don’t like this thread, you “don’t take the thread seriously at all” (see above). So again: Why are you writing in this thread?
James S Saint:Phyllo is one of our better “Zero credit snipers”. He just pops in to quickly tell you that you are wrong about something (throw a stone) then darts back into the shadows, never giving credit when you are right about anything (that would require courage).
You complain that I come in and leave. He complains that I’m not leaving.
No. You copmplain that we complain, thus: for you it’s all about the poster and not the posts, not the thread, and not the topic of this thread and its OP.
You don’t have to leave, but I wonder, why you are writing in this thread, although you are saying that you don’t like this thread, don’t take the thread seriously at all:
I don’t take the thread seriously at all.
The thread! So why are you writing in this thread?
Arminius: monad:This thread no-longer holds any interest for me.
And why are you still writing here in this thread?
Do you know Phyllo? He has also no interest in this thread, although he is writing more and more in this thread.
Why don’t you both search for another thread?
Do you know what “pharisee” means?
monad:Re IQ …
I am positive on IQ testing. It is partly right that there are some flaws in the method, but the statement that intelligence is not measurable at all is wrong. The correct measurement of intelligence depends very much on the statistics and on the long-term measurement.
B.t.w.: Your “sources” are full of egalitarian(istic) rhetoric.
You and Phyllo are against the IQ because you are following the communistic mainstream. That’s dangerous.
IN US (the new USSR) and EU (EUSSR) “communism” and “socialism” are alraedy installed:
Please search for another thread, because you both are saying that you are not interested in this thread, whilst you are writing more an more in this thread!
This is SO Stupid, so desperate (B.t.w.: Your “sources” are full of egalitarian(istic) rhetoric.) that IF you are German, I feel personally disgraced.
???
I think I have hit the nail on the head! Bingo!
And b.t.w.: Thank you very much for advertising my posts. =D>
And IF you are really no egalitarian(istic) exploiter, then please excuse me and help me to stop the egalitarianism!
All equal means all exploited, thus all poor, all stupid, all decadent.
You are “saying”: “This thread no-longer holds any interest for me” (see above).
Why are you writing in this thread then? Do you know that?
Freudian greetings.
I think I have hit the nail on the head! Bingo!
You have indeed! Please accept my advice when I say you would certainly be more intelligent if you didn’t do it so often!
Now…which is not a response to you in any way but merely an article overlapping with the title of YOUR thread which OTHERS may find interesting.
http://www.businessinsider.com/computer-passed-the-turing-test-2014-6
Arminius:I think I have hit the nail on the head! Bingo!
You have indeed! Please accept my advice when I say you would certainly be more intelligent if you didn’t do it so often!
Which “advice”? Am I threatened? Is the thread threatened?
???
And in their most supreme arrogance they became the very architects of their own demise…
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLNo4lMC8bM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZGzMfg381Y[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOt3Lz-oPo4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X0m40dBPAI[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDt_nnWaObA[/youtube]
Well done, Tyler.
Arminius,
There have been, and still are many who come to this site merely to attack people, not ideas. They have an excuse for not being able to distinguish toilet paper from nose tissue, people from ideas, maps from terrains, ontologies from realities, religion from science, or logic from speculation. It is largely associated with too much mother and not enough father along with serious neurological diseases throughout the West causing their heads to be too far up their asses to see the light, or distinguish shit from shinola.
And merely attacking people is neither intelligent nor human (in a good sense).
James S Saint:Arminius,
There have been, and still are many who come to this site merely to attack people, not ideas. They have an excuse for not being able to distinguish toilet paper from nose tissue, people from ideas, maps from terrains, ontologies from realities, religion from science, or logic from speculation. It is largely associated with too much mother and not enough father along with serious neurological diseases throughout the West causing their heads to be too far up their asses to see the light, or distinguish shit from shinola.And merely attacking people is neither intelligent nor human (in a good sense).
Unless, the only other option is to self destruct.
Anybody with a sense of intelligence knows that humanity is doomed and the future is going to be horrific.
The future is a slow motion train wreck and we’re just edging our way always closer to it.
Yet still people obey authority, keep working, and add their labors to a system that so desperately wants to be its architect.
A great way of observing collective insanity at its finest.
The logical thing to do would be to avoid this future thing altogether but the only problem with that is that a majority of human beings are not at all logical.
This thing we call humanity for sure is a pathetic and sad comedy. So, like all comedies all you can do is laugh and cry.
The future is a slow motion train wreck and we’re just edging our way always closer to it.
Train wreck … That reminds me of this:
Here comes the text of Jethro Tull’s „Locomotive Breath“:
„In the shuffling madness // Of the locomotive breath, // Runs the all-time loser, // Headlong to his death. // He feels the piston scraping - // Steam breaking on his brow - // Old Charley stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down. // He sees his children jumping off // At the stations - one by one. // His woman and his best friend - // In bed and having fun. // He’s crawling down the corridor // On his hands and knees - // Old Charlie stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down. // He hears the silence howling - // Catches angels as they fall. // And the all-time winner // Has got him by the balls. // He picks up Gideon’s Bible - // Open at page one - // (I said) God (he) stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down.“
Will we be able to prevent our own train wreck?
Train wreck … That reminds me of this:
Arminius:Here comes the text of Jethro Tull’s „Locomotive Breath“:
„In the shuffling madness // Of the locomotive breath, // Runs the all-time loser, // Headlong to his death. // He feels the piston scraping - // Steam breaking on his brow - // Old Charley stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down. // He sees his children jumping off // At the stations - one by one. // His woman and his best friend - // In bed and having fun. // He’s crawling down the corridor // On his hands and knees - // Old Charlie stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down. // He hears the silence howling - // Catches angels as they fall. // And the all-time winner // Has got him by the balls. // He picks up Gideon’s Bible - // Open at page one - // (I said) God (he) stole the handle and // The train won’t stop going - // No way to slow down.“
Will we be able to prevent such a future?
If all else fails hopefully the imposed physical limitations of nature will put an end to humanity’s collective madness.
See global peak energy for reference on that.
I think human beings are best subservient living under nature instead of trying to dominate it.
No matter what happens a lot of people are going to die. It’s necessary and unavoidable.