Yes, I’m a firm believer in global peak oil and energy. It’s only a matter of time until the wheels spin off of technological industrial society.
When this happens never again will humanity experience such a technological industrial society ever again.
We will be forced into what I like to describe as permanent 18th century living standards.
What people want and what people get are very different things altogether.
Once technological industrial society collapses a lot of the current world order is going to go by the wayside rather quickly.
I believe the collapse of industrial technological society to be the best outcome for humanity.
A lot of people are going to die around the globe in the midst of that but humanity will still prevail as it becomes stabilized within the natural equilibrium of the rest of the planet. Compared to the other alternatives it’s an acceptable loss as it could be much worse.
The collapse of industrial technological society is certainly a lot better scenario than total annihilation or enslavement to robotics in the future.
The only problem with my scenario is that it presumes humanity doesn’t destroy itself through war before this transition takes place.
Then there are all those pesky nuclear reactors around the world that left unattended or shut down could definitely pose environmental problems overtime.
Thanks, Arminius, for the good explanation of relative free will. I agree with it and am grateful that you explain without put downs or ad homs. I still see a vast difference between a DNA produced organism, a human, that took millions of years to evolve, and a machine, which is a human invention.
Current world population is seven billion people and growing.
When the collapse of technological industrial society begins I imagine we will see about six billion people dead after all is said and done.
In 1802 the world reached a population of one billion milestone. After the collapse of technological industrial society human global population will probably normalize within natural equilibrium around a billion or less.
Six billion people dead upon the collapse of technological industrial society…that’s a lot of dead people. I don’t think we have enough coffins to put them in.
Where are all the posts of the “revolting” ( ) functionaries of the current dictatorship now? Kriswest’s sentence is not politically correct. But who cares? No one because Kriswest is a female. So her sentence is politically correct. But if a male had said that, he would have been mauled by the functionaries of the current dictatorship. That’s remarkable, isn’t it?
Laughing Man’s question (“Where are we going to put them all?”) is clearly, definitely, explicitly, doubtlessly answered by Kriswest (“Let nature consume them”).
[size=120]“It’s no joke – the robots will really take over this time.
If capitalism can outsource low-paid jobs, why can’t it replace the middle classes with automatons?”[/size]
James,not necessarily. Humans will be forced to become smarter, and far before that tipping point, they MAY re-organize society so that work will be found, at lest for basic subsistence within a changing social order. Communes will be necessary, to supplement the unemployed members of family , and other units, so that everyone will be occupied. This will be necessary, to avoid a total collapse of the societal order, world wide.
Yeah and perhaps dogs and cats will be forced to become smarter and form unions and earn the right to vote. Just wait until the viruses learn how to read and right… you’ll be really sorry then.