Will machines completely replace all human beings?

In any case, as this bit by bit exchange occurs, if A is changed into B, but A is kept as the model, or not, after a duration of X time, the fact is A will = B. They will be indistinguishable. The plasticity surrounding the conversion will require closer and closer approximation to the original, and the plasticity (the appearance) of the simulacra will have to become progressively resembling the original. (the sell) Therefore, the requirement is that B will become the exact duplicate of A. In that case, no difference will be observed, except at the time of creation,termination, but this too, will have to be dealt with when the time comes. Only a very few, top ‘CREATORS’ will really know this technique, for fear of subversion and other issues, and as the technology becomes unreachable progressively, the synthetic-creator will replace the human one.

Now here enters an interesting scenario. A virtually indistinguishable plastic=fantastic Descartes will question the EVIL GENIUS as to the feasibility of the very synthesis of man and machine as a certainty. and a super philosophy may inquire of the possibility that eternal return is simply this/ the CREATION of the simulacra of the dual nature of reality.

By an eternal CREATOR.

I would like to pre-empt a foreseeable objection about the conceivability of creation,termination. In the beginning…the commercial development, marketing, and sales of such ‘products’ will be exceedingly high. As capitalistic supply and demand curves begin to slope into more affordable areas, the usual development and sales figures will jump significantly. The previous super wealthy, will, use life extension, also on a progressive scale, to justify their bit by bit conversion, until they do not recognize, that ultimately, their most private parts will also need to be replaced. By this time, the costs will be enormous, but as with all newly created products, it will again become more reasonable, as other wealthy, as usually ,loose their fortunes, and cheaper products will need to be developed to deal with the newly emerging markets of those with the need for these types of products, but with affordability issues. By these times the creators may instill a program requirement of non recognition, or the purchasers may not recognize themselves.

(1) In one case there are two different bodies: (1,1) machine, (1,2) human being. The machine does not become an android, and the human being does not become a cyborg, They bodily have nothing to do with each other. So they remain what they are. But someday one of them is completely replaced by the other, for example in this way: the last human being dies without any offspring and becomes replaced by the machine. The processes occur outside of the human body, not inside of the human body (as in case 2).

(2) In the other case a or the last human being is replaced little by little, bit by bit. So the human being becomes a cyborg. The machine may become an android but never become the human being. The human being may become a cyborg but never become a machine. So replacement has to happen. In this case an android (thus: machine) replaces a cyborg (thus: human being). The processes occur inside of the human body, not outside of the human body (as in case 1).

So the processes are very differerent, although the results are alike or even equal. In the first case (1) the bodiies remain the same until complete replacement, and in the second case (2) one body does not remain the same because it becomes replaced little by little, bit by bit. In the first case the processes occur outside of the bodies, and in the second case (2) the processes occur inside of the human body.

First, “cost” is relative. By definition, the wealthy can afford the “cost”, else they aren’t wealthy. And the less money they have, the less-wealthy have even less than that.

Second, when the wealthy want something, they use machines to make it less costly, even if it is more machines they want. And they use the confusion of remaining homosapians to make the machines actually negative-costly, profitable.

So the wealthy actually replace homosapians for free and in the end, no longer have to hide their criminality, as there is no one left to hide it from.

Yes, but the rich (powerful) risk that they will also be replaced by machines. The greatest human megalomania of all time.

Yes, and so, assuming they manage to remove ALL humans not of their clan, what do they do then? Live happily ever after? Watch I Love Lucy reruns throughout eternity? What are the chances.

Bad. This has precedence with Howard Hughes spending the last years of his life sealed up, literally in the high rise penthouse of a Los Vegas hotel, watching endless re-runs of old Hollywood movies, some of which he produced, and some of whose leading ladies he seduced.

Someone’s reaction to truth, doesn’t change what the truth is, merely what it might become.

That is absolutely true.

News flash: Japan introduced the first android newscaster.

Good thing they have those Androids to handle those terribly dangerous tasks that no human could handle. :open_mouth:
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Yes, but one thing leads to another. Mind You, James, I am still in the non-committal stance, I saw the video on U tube, and the robots look very artificial and stilted. The voices are convincing, but they have a way-way to go with developing a simulacra of believability. However, it still is, quite an achievement. Given other upcoming projects such as the alleged introduction of self driving cars within a year, or less, it is a wonder, if the economic affordability will not kick in in the near or far future. Of course the military is funding this to take the slack out of the demand curve, and yet, can a limitless development be envisioned, where designs will be put out,(before they were called hypotheticals) with absolute no expectation of marketability near term. The answer to that may be that there ceased to be any distinction between near and far term expectations. Product development may have gathered such a momentum, that it is no longer a concern whether market potential has any bearing on development. It may just be, another pleasure machine, with larger and more expanding economic interest and investment all around, fueling the most important cornerstone of world wide economy.

You are just talking about how they are trying to get there… this time around. And it seems that with every post, you present even more evidence that they are going to keep trying until they do: “Try, try again!

The real question is whether they will ever find a reason to just not go there, stop trying. Why would they ever stop trying to replace people with machines? Their good nature? You’re kidding right? These are the same people who slaughter millions for sake of minor manipulated agreements between nations. To them, people are merely tools and one tool is as good as another as long as it gets the job done: As long as they get to be God in the end - “Godwannabes”.

Kidding or not, the whole structure of this argument rests or falls on the idea of limits. I think from an epistemological point of view, the notion of what is implied in the idea of Satan’s battle on Mankind, if He were to become become God.However metaphysics has is one up on physics in this respect, the idea of aesthetic limits, the should versus the is, the agreeable aesthetic distance will reaffirm the advantages of the Faustian Man. The very early serpent simply could not do the necessary thinking that requires knowledge to reach the god. After the initial thought , the inspiration(that of the Word was begotten of) became the ether, through we actually can breathe. That is, the Holy Spirit, the Human consciousness. When these areas between the seeming limitless, and the actually limited will collide, at the day of reckoning, it will be as a dramatic demonstration to those whose grasp reality does not extend beyond the visual, but as subtly almost unnoticeable to those, who see limits as useful, natural reminders of what the Creation is all about.

As far as millions killed, well yes, the transhuman God will kindly re tribute with the two edged sword of the Karmic effects at that day of reckoning, which incidentally, has already began.

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Well, if you want to bring metaphysics into this…

Roughly around 1350 AD, Satan was released from his bonds to be granted a 1000 year reign that we are currently experiencing, just as predicted. So around 2350 AD, the game would be over. And as its seems, and as Moses foresaw, everything will change to be different. And a part of that change seems to be that homosapians will no longer exist, certainly not as such. And that is about the same time that transhumanists believe as the end of homosapian as well.

I can tell you the general nature of what happens next, but not whether homosapian will be there to enjoy it.

Roughly around 1350 AD the pest began.

pest a lance.

Back to modern times:

What do you think about Luddism, Neo-Luddism, and Neo-Neo-Luddism?

Named after Ned Ludd, a youth who allegedly smashed two stocking frames in 1779, and whose name had become emblematic of machine destroyers. Ned Ludd was allegedly called General Ludd or King Ludd, a figure who, like Robin Hood, was reputed to live in Sherwood Forest.

Here are some pictures (from Luddism to Neo-Luddism, and perhaps the beginnig of Neo-Neo-Luddism):

Until people understand their own purpose in life and that of machines, there will always be discontent with the use of machines.

There is a “good” use for machines and there is a “bad” use for machines.

The good use involves the very impetus and needs of a life. If a machine is not increasing the Integral Sum of Joy, ISJ, in a society by its use, it should not be used. But the analysis of ISJ is very complex and far from being within the purview of the average person.

It is unethical to use machines for any other purpose, such as merely to gain money.

Yes, but money - thus: power (control, interest and so on) - is the purpose machines are used for.

Apropos money: we should have more than one currency, and the first one should be a currency of knowledge, wisdom, Information.

Currency is loosing it’s appeal day to day, as gold and silver have lost their luster. Virtual money credit cards debit cards, and now internet money is progressively taking the image of money away. When a critical point in confidence in social value be reached, then, there will no longer be the need for an international foundation to the concept of equity/exchange, and will resolve its’ as it’s own reflexive barter.

The reason: exchange is reaching unmanageable levels. Another world meltdown may not even be manageable by the World Bank. Value evaluation has become a minute by minute supercomputer preoccupation.

In a gross reappraisal of values, the only possible scenario for this is a cyberattack of totally devastating proportions, where all current values are irradicated. This too, may happen , the lack of recognition of this is no longer a matter of transvaluation, but a re-calibration.

It’s probably not at all, what “they think” it is, meaning some head exec honcho at world bank. he is probably a self pre occupied, joker, more concerned with his immediate surroundings, then with what’s going on worldwide.

His main concern thereof is not the affirmation of which he may have a suspicion of, that it’s not readily forthcoming in reality, but an undefined, scorning burning need to connect with a credible venue. Robert Macnamara held the job after the secretary of defense job.