Progressives are against reparations for the same reason they are (sometimes) against incest; it would make them look bad to the masses if they were outspokenly in favor of it. Consistency of their position is not a factor.
I know this forum doesn’t take too kindly to the position of race-realism, but I’d like to debate it with you guys here.
So the contrary position " Race-egalitariansim " holds that all races are equal, that they posses the same genetic potential for intelligence as every other race, but that environmental/cultural factors can either increase it, or decrease it.
I’d like to see some arguments for Race-egalitarianism.
It can’t be properly argued.
If we want to argue against the studies concluding various specific racial differences, or we want to argue that the results of those studies (whatever they may conclude and however accurate those conclusions may be) should be largely irrelevant in a proper society, then we can do so within reason and without being utterly cowardly - only once we’ve admitted to basic evolutionary theory which obviously discredits race-egalitarianism.
If those refusing to admit to the evolutionary basis for discrediting race-egalitarianism wish to avoid cowardice (although not mitigating the absurdity in the least) then they must at least have the courage to make a clear claim against it, including a feeble attempt at an explanation.
As for those such feeding the absurdity, their motives aren’t clear, but a reasonable explanation would be that their correctness on the issue of race-realism isn’t based on any actual honest observation of racial divergence, requiring seeing through the rampant propaganda claiming the contrary, but is based on simple biases against those who perpetuate that propaganda.
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[size=150]Unbelievable! But true![/size]
The whites and especially the white males seem not to need foreign race or all females for their genocide because the whites do it themselves: auto-genocide!
Examiner.com: “Liberal professor calls for genocide, says white males should commit suicide.” This “liberal” “professor” is white and male.
Which, of course, isn’t to say that the professor talked about in that article doesn’t have absolutely retarded hateful views about white people (he does; he’s a fucking imbecile and a racist and a piece of shit)
but he probably didn’t say those specific things, seeing as the primary source for that information was a satirical website.
At first I thought that article was just satire.
That was not a satire, but an excuse to not be unnecessarily accused of incitement of the people / sedition.
The answer of the question of the other article (“Did a Professor Instruct White Male Students to Commit Suicide for the Benefit of Society?”) is: YES.
… or he just got caught… the ONE sin those people actually believe in.
Ignatiev is also the co-editor of “Race Traitor,” a journal which says that ”treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity.”
Fernando, who wrote the piece at the Diversity Report, called Ignatiev’s comments “sound and reasonable” words that “resonate with every enlightened and progressive mind.”
“They are indisputable and no one can debate them,” he added, calling those who object to Ignatiev’s outrageous call “far-right extremists.”
Fernando said he spoke to Ignatiev about his statement in a phone interview.
According to Fernando’s account, Ignatiev doubled down on his comments, attributing criticism to “white supremacist attitudes.”
“The goal of destroying the white race is simply so desirable, it boggles the mind trying to understand how anyone could possibly object to it,” he said.
He went on to explain that those who object to his call for genocide “are themselves white supremacists.”
When asked if only white males need to be exterminated, Ignatiev said that the entire race needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.
"Obviously, all whites need to be destroyed, but why not start with white males?
And btw, he is Judist and exercising a Judist method stated in the Torah, explicated in Deuteronomy.
10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the Lord thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
“If they don’t serve you, kill off first all of the males and take everything else as your own.”
The answer of the question of the other article (“Did a Professor Instruct White Male Students to Commit Suicide for the Benefit of Society?”) is: YES.
I didn’t see where in the article that that was the answer.
Unless you’re just saying that that’s you’re answer, in which case…
A site explicitly labeled as a satire site is the source of the interview upon which these claims are made. That is the highest-played card at this point in the argument about the validity of the article.
Some weak fool wants those superior to him to kill themselves. This is not news this is everyday banality… and off topic!
Holy thread derailer, batman.
I was just thinking that.
For what it’s worth,
Ignatiev’s web site and publication Race Traitor display the motto “treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity”. In response to a letter to the site which understood the motto as meaning that the authors “hated” white people because of their “white skin”, Ignatiev and the other editors responded:
“ We do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. What we hate is a system that confers privileges (and burdens) on people because of their color. It is not fair skin that makes people white; it is fair skin in a certain kind of society, one that attaches social importance to skin color. When we say we want to abolish the white race, we do not mean we want to exterminate people with fair skin. We mean that we want to do away with the social meaning of skin color, thereby abolishing the white race as a social category. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages.
Anyway… my conclusion to this thread is race realism = the truth, and that doesn’t matter one bit.
Ignatiev’s web site and publication Race Traitor display the motto “treason to whiteness is loyalty to humanity”. In response to a letter to the site which understood the motto as meaning that the authors “hated” white people because of their “white skin”, Ignatiev and the other editors responded:
“ We do not hate you or anyone else for the color of her skin. What we hate is a system that confers privileges (and burdens) on people because of their color. It is not fair skin that makes people white; it is fair skin in a certain kind of society, one that attaches social importance to skin color. When we say we want to abolish the white race, we do not mean we want to exterminate people with fair skin. We mean that we want to do away with the social meaning of skin color, thereby abolishing the white race as a social category. Consider this parallel: To be against royalty does not mean wanting to kill the king. It means wanting to do away with crowns, thrones, titles, and the privileges attached to them. In our view, whiteness has a lot in common with royalty: they are both social formations that carry unearned advantages.
Yeah,
When we say this… we mean that…
And when we say this… we mean that other thing.
And when we say…
… we only mean… something innocent, not the obvious thing that everyone assumes and believes.
[size=85]I don’t hate you. I just work to get everyone else to hate you. [/size]
Ever heard of “plausible deniability”?
And of course at the same time, if a white male says anything even vaguely implying anything potentially disrespectful of a culture or race, he is fired, chastised, fined, and cursed for life.
Anyway… my conclusion to this thread is race realism = the truth, and that doesn’t matter one bit.
Which conclusion would you more vigorously defend; that what is real is true, or that what is true is irrelevant?
The worst racism is the auto-racism (racism towards one’s own race). The Whites daily show how auto-racism works.
The worst racism is the auto-racism (racism towards one’s own race). The Whites daily show how auto-racism works.
True and many were conned into it with the notion of evolution of the race, by the culling the herd.
“Oh, you’re just whining”.
“Affirmative action” is racism and sexism, the increased form of racism.
“Affirmative action” has such results (for example):
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(“SCUM” means Valerie Solanas’ manifesto, “SCUM Manifesto”. And it’s evident what “#killallmen” means.)
And if you want to get of the top of racism and sexism, you only have to observe the white autoracism and male autosexism (the increased form of autracism), thus the autoracisms and autosexism of the male whites. Funny? No! Dangerous!
The proportion of men must be reduced and fixed at approximately 10% of the human race.
Liberal professor calls for genocide, says white males should commit suicide.
That “liberal” “professor” is white and male.
Do you have any question?
Many years ago, a feminist proudly proclaimed, “Anything man can create, woman can destroy.” I thought, “Now there’s a proud legacy.”
To destroy all things, turn all things against all things. It kept Judea in a diseased mess for a thousand years, why not America? And the magog come in both male and female forms.
The truth is that the irresistible force has actually yet to meet the immovable object, despite rumors to the contrary. “Logos” doesn’t merely mean “language” or “word”, but rather “the Logic of Affixed Language/Words” (“Dialectics”), more recently referred to as “Definitional Logic”. The “immovable object” is the humble love of pure logic (aka “RM”).