GOD=NATURE

arc please see my post on july 31 at 8:51…

Apparently the desire to find God or Nature cannot be ultimately appeased. The journey is the answer.

that is right on… for theist and atheist

The journey is the answer is based on writings of Hesse. See “Sidhartha”, etc.

The journey is the answer is based on writings of Herman Hesse. See “Sidhartha”, “Steppenwolf”, etc.

does jesus fit in here

Yes, as a way, as a journey toward God. Jesus as final end is idolatry.

are hesse and jesus on the same path…

There is only one path with different names.

I don’t see that ier…can you help me…

You already know the answer. The path is living by the Golden Rule. It addresses both your well-being and that of others. It’s not easy to follow in a sick society; but it is the only way beyond that.

thank you…you have expressed that very well…and I agree 100%… =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

i don’t see any atheists around…which means they are just attacking the fathergod…

turtle wrote:

So, turtle, in response to Ierrellus’ Are not wonder and awe at Nature some sort of answer? It just may not be answer enough.

You wrote:

So, not to assume, the point you’re trying to make is that you do experience awe and wonder - in other words, you do respond at your core. Is that true?

yes :slight_smile:

where are the atheists…bring it on

It just occurred to me and I may be wrong but maybe the sign of a real atheist would be one who doesn’t attack God. How can we attack what doesn’t exist for us? lol

They attack the idea of a God.

they attack the fathergod…

They attack ideas about a deity. As Arc noted, they cannot attack that in which they do not believe. Ideas, however, can be attacked.