Chicken or egg? What came first?

Why are there so many old people, just waiting to die, at ILP? :confused:

We have control over our life, or at least we have the illusion of control. When I tell you to not eat paper, you have the choice to not eat paper. The universe is helping you, through me, to programmed in the right way, to make the right choices. So the universe is telling us (through me, I am it’s Body and Holy Vessel) that you should make the right choice, because choices may affect the outcome of the afterlife. And the right choice is, to insist that Science do more serious research on consciousness and the afterlife. And in order for science to do that, the first step is to upgrade everyone’s brains.

That is all very well but what I am specifically interested in is getting to the end of this life
You want to upgrade your brain then go ahead and do it but that has nothing to do with me
I am just waiting to die and passing the time till death finally decides to come and take me

Well then go to a cold dark place and wait, why bother with activity?

insert *we welcome our alien overlords we welcome the smoozesummoner devoured> trope

I need to keep myself occupied as doing nothing is out of the question
I do not fancy just staring at empty walls for the next thirty odd years
Because if that is all I shall be doing then I might as well die right now

Didn’t you know that death is a contrarian? Death may just decide to leave you alone until that moment when you see something worthwhile about living. Then Death will take you. And take care not to try to fool Death. It sees right through you.

How to resolve the conundrum?
Are you at least enjoying passing the time on some level?

This sounds to me as if you are very sorry for yourself for some reason. But I don’t believe you. I think that every creature clinges to life (and if you’re getting upset now, you prove me right :wink: ).

To the OP:

If the human spirit doesn’t mirror God’s eternal essence, then Sartre was right - we make our own; we are like the river you never step into twice, a conscious one that chooses which way it goes. However…if the human spirit does mirror God’s essence, we are not dealing with a changing river, but an infinite well. We can choose to be filled from that well, or be dry wells ourselves. And we will become exactly what we choose.

I’m not waiting to die. I have poems yet to write.

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That’s good. :smiley:

So life is worth living and doing, it does have meaning and a point for you.

Why has your fish got feet?
I think you are missing the point. Do you know what Ixthos stands for?

The ichthus w/ feet is for me a symbol of theistic evolution. See biologos.org/questions My last post stands regardless.

Theism is a medieval myth. It contradict evolution, obviously.

Define what you mean by “passing the time”.
You must be a real pain on road trips. :mrgreen:

Me too.

Lev,

Why they are for walking on land, Lev. Didn’t you kow that? You can’t see it, but this fish also has a “bottomless” air tank for when he becomes the fish out of water. His feet are also for walking on the ocean floor when he gets tired of swimming. He’s an awesome mutation.
We call him Mutie.

Anything that can keep me meaningfully occupied is passing the time. I do not do road trips for I avoid human beings
as much as possible. I am as free as I can be while still being alive but death is my destination. And all life is is just a
short journey along the way before the inevitable. And if death is eternal and painless it must not be feared. Though
tell this to most human beings and they start going into denial mode. Yet no one who is dead has ever been observed
to be unhappy so there is zero reason to be afraid of it and every reason to welcome it with open arms. Indeed I now
accept it so much that I do not really worry about anything. Since I know that my life shall end one day and all of the
worrying will have been in vain. You cannot be any more free now than to live a life with as little worry as is possible
Now some here have no time for nihilists but I am more free than they are so I must be doing something right I reckon
Although I did not choose to become nihilist for instead it just became the most ideal position for me to actually be in
And it was a slow transitional process that I now fully accept and I now see the bigger picture too so it all makes sense
I cannot recommend it because even though it works for me it may not do so for anyone else. So you have to find what
works for you. I cannot tell you what that is as that is only something that you can know. And so then each to their own