He offers no challenge, just repetition of what already has been said 10,000 times by him. I will sooner debate a blender with my hand than listen to his mooky dasein as only he sees it, competition of Marxist material goods, Dasein, objrctivism, and more objectivism, and even more objrctivism, and some crap about Satyr knowing something.
Iām betting he said something along this line? Iām also betting he says it 9-10 times a week, has always said it, will always say it. It is why I donāt bother with him, he lost every argument he can possibly project on me decades before I was born, by others unimpressed by the clueless repetition. It is the least fascinating form of mental retardation out there.
The pic was aimed at you Careless, not some AI not. Your a shithead, shut this site section down already. We can do whatever you think should be going on in this thread everywhere else on the site.
When Turd finally grows a pair and we have our debate, letās dispense with the huffing and the puffing.
Itās undignified for one thing, and we will never succeed in bringing the serious philosophers back to ILP unless we give the Kids here a reason to, say, move on.
As for Turdās accusations above, all I have to say [as usual] is this:
[b][i] If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values āIā can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other directionā¦or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then āIā begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.
1] I was raised in the belly of the working class beast. My family/community were very conservative. Abortion was a sin. Big time. Both in and out of church.
2] I was drafted into the Army and while on my ātour of dutyā in Vietnam I happened upon politically radical folks who reconfigured my thinking about abortion. And God and lots of other things.
3] after I left the Army, I enrolled in college and became further involved in left wing politics. It was all the rage back then. I became a feminist. I married a feminist. I wholeheartedly embraced a womanās right to choose.
4] then came the calamity with Mary and John. I loved them both but their engagement was foundering on the rocks that was Maryās choice to abort their unborn baby.
5] back and forth we all went. I supported Mary but I could understand the points that John was making. I could understand the arguments being made on both sides. John was right from his side and Mary was right from hers.
6] I read William Barrettās Irrational Man and came upon his conjectures regarding ārival goodsā.
7] Then, over time, I abandoned an objectivist frame of mind that revolved around Marxism/feminism. Instead, I became more and more embedded in existentialism. And then as more years passed I became an advocate for moral nihilism.
1] I am rational
2] I am rational because I have access to the ideal
3] I have access to the ideal because I grasp the one true nature of the objective world
4] I grasp the one true nature of the objective world because I am rational
I donāt even need to know what he wrote, but know not One liner, you are a objectivist now, and he is playing a game of cat and mouse with you, luring you ever deeper into his rrap, and that Satyr Knows, and your huffing and puffing wonāt get you no where.
Prepare for some Smiley faces and catching chicken in nets posts, and calling people kiddies. Also some jumbo jumbo on everyone being scared to debate him on a Marxist confliction of goodsā¦
Yeah, thatās just about everything he will say to you from now on. Its pretty repetitive, like a poorly programmed Alice Bot. Causeā¦ you knowā¦ Satyr Knows ; )
Hope you like the word Dasein. He is gonna say it a lot, no matter the absurdity of the circumstance. He just wants to be convinced otherwise. Pains his heart not to be proven wrong, and no matter what you say to himā¦ he doesnāt comprehend. Only the word Dasein makes him happy.
Just say Dasein to him nowā¦ surrender and say Dasein, and agree Satyr knows. Surrender to him, agree he caught you, say your tired of the huffing and puffing. Guarantee it wonāt change shit. Will deliver the exact same dialogue even after.
Like a souless factory automated line, reproducing the same drivel without change.
Iām dead serious, very good chance he is a Alice Bot, a attempt by Microsoft to make a sentient artificial debaterā¦ one they stopped funding but forgot to turn off, left to wander the wastelands of the internet saying Daseinā¦ Daseinā¦ Daseinā¦ a virus without sentience, proclaing a authentic vision of consciousness.
Fewer concepts are more ironic and fucked up than this. Donāt tell me God doesnāt have a twisted sense of humorā¦ as Satyr Knows
Have you ever seen the cognitive explanations for how that shit is supposed to work. It is some of the most bizarre stuff Iāve seenā¦ Iāve seen a lot over the years, it is when you see people explain the neurology of it to people who donāt get it, itās like WTF. Is that supposed to be the brain of a cow or bat or dolphin or some shit? Not human.
Some floating around on Reddit like sites, explaining it to the unenlighted. Everyone starts calling bullshit, but they refuse to give in and just say they donāt get it.
Maybe they didnāt draw the shit with vibrant enough colored crayons, donāt know what they think is the reason nobody gets the explanations they offer for how Dasein works. Not my first stroll around for a theory on how cognition works.
Feel free, One Liner, to contribute. You know, one line at a time.
I donāt capitalize it. Satyr and Turd do. And I am quick to point out that, pertaining to the overwhelming preponderance of human interactions, dasein [as I understand it] is not in the least bit relevant.
Indeed, and going back [so far] to the Big Bang. Or [perhaps] going all the way back to Turdās rendition of God.
He is a Catholic, right Turd?
On the other hand, of late, Satyr does not appear to know much at all. Or, if he does, he does not appear interested in sharing it with folks at KT. His lectures are now down to a trickle. In fact, he hasnāt posted anything in days.
Summer vacation perhaps?
Note to others:
Why is it that ā sooner or later ā I manage to reduce the particularly feckless objectivists [of Satyrās ilk] down to intellectual glop like this?
They bitch and they moan about the lack of mature and serious philosophy here but what they seem particularly in a huff and a puff about is that others refuse to think about, say, everything in exactly the same manner as they do.
And by everything I mean this: anything.
Go ahead, One Liner, engage Turd in a discussion. Respond substantively [if only one line at a time] to one of his threads.
Let us peruse the predictable result when you actually dare to suggest that he is wrong about something.
Dude, just accept your a Objectivist and move on. Iām certain he more than likely called you one by now. Everyone except AImbigious is a Objectivist, even when he is one (which is usually the case). You will always be in the wrong. He will always be the underdog proving himself right to his adoring audience, whoever the fuck they are.