Trudeau implies Islam segregation of women is Strength

Segregation of women already occurs in society. At work males are not allowed to flirt with women, this is a form of sexual stratification.

Generational massive Stockholm syndrome? It is possible especially if the women were bred to be stupid and utterly passive. But, we know they are not bred so. We know the women outnumber the men. And I take it you have never seen the temper of a middle eastern woman? They just ain’t that passive, passionate but, not passive. :slight_smile:
When intelligent passionate females outnumber the one bully arrogant heavyhanded male, what would be the result?? I and so so so many billions of women from all walks of life and religions would end his life, poison or blade. Why would not these women that are subject generationally?
I do think that while the men hold the reigns of governing, the women are content letting them do so, again, they outnumber the males and they just are not stupid. I also see outsiders, that do not live within the walls of many different homes of these people, making the complaints and accusations. There have been the disgruntled of the religion but, all religions get those.
Sorry, for the length of post. I just do not buy brow beaten stockholmed females, a few sure, the majority, nope.

You underestimate the power of text. Women are not obedient to men but to gods.

If 14-year-old girl is called a whore by her father and brothers because she is wearing a ‘short’ skirt to school … How do you think she will react? Will she be able to stand up to them? Is she going to take the punishments? Is she prepared to die for that principle?

Who bought that 14 yr old her skirt? Did her mother or did the father? Is that 14 year old always going to be 14? Is she going to a public school or private? Did this 14 year old girl just fall off the turnip truck? Because at 14 yrs old you know the family dress codes. So she either is stupid or decided to defy. If it was defiance, then she would know what to expect.

Kris it sounds like you are in favor of female oppression. Is this true.

Maybe she bought it herself. (It’s fairly certain that the father did not buy it.)

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Let’s say public school since private schools often have uniforms. Is that a big deal?

If she must conform to the family dress code then she is not free to choose. So, you are making my point.

Ok, so just where did this 14 year old girl come up with the money to buy something since she lives in such a strict house?

14 year olds get mature eventually and learn to deal with family crap.
Public school friends will help her get outside influence and adapt , where a private religious school will have similar family values and the 14 is not likely to wear such a skirt.
We all have family dress codes. And we all even her are free to defy or not. At 14 she will know what the consequences are for choosing to wear the skirt. You said she chose to wear the skirt. So what is your point???

Somebody gave her money or a gift card. Why is this an issue?

So she is being forced to conform and she is not free to choose.

Which contradicts you previous statements where you said that these women chose freely:

Are you allowed to walk freely without repercussions naked in public?

The skirt: ok so this very restricted controlled 14 yr old girl walks to a store by herself and freely chooses to buy a skirt that she knows her family will disapprove of. Yea, in what deeply religious world does anyone turn loose a 14 year old unescorted with money??? Your premise has no validity.

Nihilism, weakness, nothingness, is the lack of contrast. There can be no strength at all anywhere in the universe without contrasted segregation (even in the deepest physics). Equalizing the female to the male merely weakens them both to extinction (the whole point).

Islam chooses to not play that same self-annihilation game (as to the Judaists, Blacks, Asians). Thus, they will stand where dim-white-folk faded away.

Whine about it to your grave. Afterward, there will be no one to hear you or care.

Islam is very nihilistic.

Nobody said anything of the sort.

So in the ‘deeply religious world’ a girl is constantly watched and controlled so she can’t do anything wrong. Is that what you are saying?

And you are also saying that she freely chooses what she does??

:open_mouth:

Equalizing in what sense?

Access to education?
Freedom to choose clothing?
Selecting a marriage partner?

Decision making authority, both direct and indirect, intentional and inadvertent, overt and covert.

It is well known for a very long time that any truly 50/50 partnership has a high probability of failure (and for understandable reasons). The strongest male-female relationships are Dom/sub.

Men ought to make decisions for women?

In principle, should not every individual make his/her own decisions with respect to his/her own life?

It’s not important what Trudeau is saying, it’s in which direction the society is going. Canada is a liberal society and this is a direction its going.
The current adult generation is not really that important - it’s the children and the next generations that are targeted. He’s may be saying one thing to the parents, but once they are gone, the society and the social norms will take over. The next generations will not be the same.
He’s a feminist too: youtube.com/watch?v=FUtRnkm1GlY

So is Obama: glamour.com/story/glamour-ex … looks-like

No one makes all of their decisions for themselves (without immediately going insane and becoming another sociopath). Every other person provides structure, within which each person can make decisions. When you remove that structure by making everything the same, rationality gets lost because all roads lead to the same result … boring, idle, stagnation. Mindless and aimless emotionalism then rules the roost. There are no goals to achieve (a masculine necessity in life). There is no security assured (a feminine necessity in life). Extremes are tried and more invented, but there is only very short lived satisfaction because nothing is good enough of a catharsis to fill the void of tomorrow’s inevitable drab, mundane, boredom. And the more they try, the worse it gradually gets (The Never Ending Story scenario).

Without guardrails, goals, and rules to provide structure, more tailored to fit the needs of the individual (masculine for males, feminine for females), misery, insanity, sociopathological justifications, and emotionalism follow. The idea that the homosapian brain is born as an entirely blank slate is and always was utter nonsense.

The male and the female have different structure needs within their need compendium. The female is more of a “tell me what you(all) want of me” and the male is more of a “okay, where are we going” type of innate attitude (after the more youthful, “what can I get away with” attitude).

Male: What is our Goal?
Female: How can I help you get us there?

As is most often the case, she becomes an inadvertent guardrail and goal for his demands that she must obey. Both become more hopeful of a full and meaningful life as each senses that they are doing what works for each other (or what the religious refer to as “going with God”). They form a natural team, far greater than either alone.

Evolution has ensured that those basic attitudes are DNA engendered. As Man removes them, structure is lost, as is homosapian. They got there by naturally rational reasoning. Remove nature in favor of artificial ideological constructs (“civility”, “socialism”) and natural reasoning goes with it.

Artificial structures only work well with artificial life.
You want evidence? Just look around.

One of the reason for segregation of women in Islam is because Allah [their God] stated the females are “dirty” in addition to loads of verses that reinforced misogyny.
I will provide the verses later or one can google for them easily.

Now if an all powerful God said so that women are dirty, unclean, worth less, etc. Muslim must listen, obey and practice what are stated and commanded, otherwise they could go to HELL and be tortured in the worst possible manner eternally as specified in the Quran.

So the Islam [partly] is inherently evil with regard to misogyny and contributed to terrible evils and violence committed on female Muslims by SOME evil prone Muslims [males and females].

In this case, PM Trudeau is indirectly complicit to the related sufferings of women in Canada that are related to this issue. [the women upstairs!! :evilfun: ].

It doesn’t really matter WHY they do what they do, as long as it works better than what you are doing, besides which your WHY is not actually any better, despite what you believe.

When they gain due to what they do and you don’t, guess what?