Arcturus Descending wrote:Jakob,
Being proud and offering resistance is good, but doesn't necessarily make one an equal.
Is the motivation behind resistance always about trying to prove that one is someone's equal?
I am simply proud and happy to have found a few people that estimate me properly, people who I can properly estimate without insulting them; high souls. There is only pride and happiness involved with that. It is a huge privilege.
And you can talk Pezar up all you want, but that just proves you're loyal, not that he's your equal.
What does this mean?
He's loyal to me because I'm the most powerful person he knows.
I don't know, Jakob but it seems to me by the above statement -- I intuit that if someone is loyal because the other is so powerful, then that loyalty hinges on something which is lacking in the self and which that self needs to be a part of.
How can a friendship be based on that? If someone loses power, than what happens to the friendship? What is there to make it constant?
As you know, we Nietzscheans do not frown on power. On the contrary.
'Friendship' based on anything else is a parasitical state.
All people love power, power is what people love in others; if they aren't fearful wretches, in which case they love others weaknesses.
You, Arc, too love only power. I can see you.
I'm loyal to him because he's the most powerful person around. We're very clear about that. Of course we share certain values and aims -- but on this level, power and values are truly aspects of the same thing.
Powerful in which way? That's a very nice affirmation BUT it's only subjective thinking on your part, no?
Haha.
No, dear,
that is subjective thinking on
your part.
Who of us two has been spending time with Pezer?
I am sure you can see the fallacy in your thinking here.
but on this level, power and values are truly aspects of the same thing
Can you explain this, Jakob?
What is your personal power used for? Is a sense of power the most important factor in your life?
Power sets goals; 'my' power uses 'me' to set and attain goals.
I recommend a reading of Nietzsche, Arc, I am sort of worried about this ignorance of what a Nietzschean philosopher means when he says "power".
Shall we start a book study on a Nietzsche volume?
We used to do that back in the day on the Nietzsche Campfire. There is so much to be explained.
I do have rank on him philosophical-technically and scientifically, I feel I have philosophical and scientific rank on everyone alive including Zizek as well as the guys at Cern (so I could not give less about what a dude like Satyr tries to tell you)
lol Do you really feel that way about yourself, Jakob? How do we get to be so courageous in our vanity and so cowardly in our humility?
Yes, you are brilliant in some ways and extremely knowledgeable. Perhaps you are like Lucifer in a sense bearing his light but like Lucifer and his pride and arrogance, there could be a fall waiting in the wings.
Do you not see anyone as more than you - Pezer aside?
As my great friend Arthur Schopenhauer said: "With people of limited ability modesty is merely honesty. But with those who possess great talent it is hypocrisy."
I am no moron, I would not say such extravagant things if I wasnt helplessly sure, had not become sure over time through experience, a lifetime of discussing with scientists, philosophers, priests, shamans, politicians, and so many other types... that no one else has a fucking first clue what do do with the matters that were brought to light in the 1930's. [edited out some education history that may be perceived as bragging] I have always been forced to consider other minds remarkably puny and unprepared, simply because of how dumbstruck they always are when I address a matter; it is as if I am the only one who addresses the most humbling and scary matters of the mind
head on. No,thats exactly what it is.
Yes, Arc, I fully mean what I say, and to be honest, any person - let me say any man, who responds to such a claim with axiomatic disdain for such pridefulness, who isnt tempted to inquire why I feel this way - is less than human. Such men are precisely what fascism is; what Pol Pot was. Such mean are truly vermin to me. Lower, in all the literal senses, than all other mammals.
the human mind gives rise to strengths, but mainly to weaknesses; it is after all so apt to fear, to be jealous, to dread itself. I see people like Phyllo, I see how hollow they are, I see them daily with their grey faces.
but he outranks me in qualities such as aristocratic outlook, straightforwardness, conciseness, important forms of bullshit-detecting;
He may just need to work on the phrase which I colored.
I understand the need for human beings to be affirmed but why do you feel the need to be above?
Aristocratic outlook? Is Pezer the guy in the videos with you?
What do you mean by aristocratic outlook? Can you define that. I can google it but I'd rather have your vision of him.
I can't say too much about that, as per aristocratic code - but just pay attention to his way of standard-bearing.
and there is a very important set of qualities that pertains to personal life in which I find in this guy the first one who actually has a spine.
Pezer is the very first person who you have ever come across who has courage?
Not at all, you quite dramatically misread!