The Devil is God

Yes, full of envy, resentment, revenge, hate, and megalomania - always trolling and faking.

My friend, the times gone are but in sum
A book with seven seals protected;
What ‘spirit of the times’ you call,
Good sirs, is but your spirit’

Goethe, Faust

Re: Rudolf Steiner’s study on Karmic effects in Goethe’s Faust

That is a very good quote too. I like it very much.

I didn’t say that, either.

Yes, that is right.

What i did say is that God has been made into the devil by many so called believers, that they have created their own gods and their own versions of God that have further added to the one god being viewed as the devil and that god would gave no compunction or problem at being the devil at times. Similarly, Hollywood shows faulty versions of both that get latched onto, people get their own distorted versions they spread around, others straight up lie to see if they can get others to believe them and that some would view some abuse as too extreme, some responses, as to be prescribed by a merciful god.

Such a God that would suggest the killing of a child or the brutal beating of a seeming innocent or even the rape of a woman or person that, in the secret of their own thoughts, asks for such, or the taking of a child from someone who loves being loved more than loving enough to teach the hard lessons and risk being hated, or try too hard to be the friend instead of the parent, or even those who don’t give a shit about their child and only view it as property, as acts prescribed by God.

Furthermore, someone might fail to see how God might see someone who thinks that people cry too much about the loss of a pet and state such openly and states that they can just go get another of the same breed, it’s the same thing and turn to that person who is legitly that blind and ask them the same of their child, that just because they assign a child a name and love it that others should love it, too, that if something happened to their child why they couldn’t just go have another. theyre all the same, Right?

And such a God that wouldn’t agree with humans that humans were better than other animals wouldnt be a fit god, would it.

RF wrote

Your meaning then?

Your meaning then?

You know I’ve defined my meaning plenty of times already and you seek to piss me off. Go fuck your self.

No meaning then. Enjoy your own wots?

You know… when you go through and so cleverly pretend not to know what I’m talking about, so cleverly pretend not to catch the meaning… when you and so many others so cleverly misconstrue and drag out of context, etc. So much of what I say and do… it only shows that you and all the rest understand perfectly what I say and purposefully get it wrong.

There’s only one reason I’ve come to repeatedly for you all to do so so well and for so long, and it’s because you all wish to kill me. it’s not because I’m not right about all of my philosophy and morality, it’s because you and so many others don’t want me to be right because of the amount of work people would have to put into it due to the damage done by you and so many others, in each life time.

You and others who hound me incessantly must to some extent believe me to be wrong and faulty otherwise it would tear you apart, the guilt for what you’re doing in tearing apart not just a righteous man, but all who would stand with him. Because you must be good people in your own minds, you refuse what you do as wrong and use every bit of stubbornness to rail against the perfect reason that states that you all are wrong.

And while you can cow everyone else and keep them down and while the majority of it all is in your heads with only one person actually making a stand such as this, it’s much easier for you all to believe in the impossibility of anything other than me just being a freak, of just being the one thing wrong in society.

It’s not that what I say is unbelievable, it’s that it’s so widespread that it must be right to the feeble minds that get beaten down by it. it’s so widespread and I’m just one man.

I’m more stubborn than you because I’m in the right, a righteous man who fights against impossible odds that you caved into, impossible odds that are afraid of me. When all that youre doing catches up to you and all the others… it will destroy you completely and I will effectively be at that point the instrument of your deaths.

But you believe foolishly even now against all evidence to the contrary that it’s only a matter of time before I break, that all of this hate and seeming ignorance and injustice and annoyances will eventually break me and when that happens, my death will come and none of you will have to change.

For me to know all that I know in these terms without breaking or being broken by it, is an impossibility in your eyes. For me to still be standing and fighting and breathing in and out is inconceivable, even with thinking that I break in private because you know what I must be facing everywhere, that none of it is giving me any such rest. And the fact is that I do not break.

And, I do find it funny that you are terrified of my opposition so much that you do its bidding in trying to destroy what it fears so much and fear me far less than you fear it and fear it far less than it fears me. You should fear me far more than you do.

Care for another round of dancing, or would you prefer some time to contemplate suicidal thoughts?

You personally? Or are you speaking as the Devil?

You personally?

Nobody knows what you’re saying.

I think you’re already broke.

What do you mean by “break”? You mean, snap, lose it, go fucking psycho? Do you mean break down and cry? Do you mean just submit to society? Do you mean kill someone? And what is it you know that would otherwise break you?

Oh, it’s a triangle!

Too dramatic RF…

It’s interesting what you think these beings are when you project upon the world with your little riffs and improvs…

Almost everyone in the world who takes on such personas, reveals themselves, their outlook, their projections of their perfection as a being

And some people have accurate reference …

You’re blustering about, puffing yourself up because you feel powerless…

Been there, done that …

This is what people want:

They want all overlapping and mutually exclusive desires solved

They want non-violative love (love without consequence)

They want the translation of wealth (what they see as valuable)

They want healing energy

They want wisdom

They want accurate reference

They want non violative integrity

And most importantly, if they can’t have these…

They want to instantly and painlessly vanish into thin air and never be again…

You are far too dramatic for almost anyone’s taste

You’d rather puff up your ego around people who don’t want to live, than give them a way out of your histrionic egoism

And that RF is why you are fake

You all get exactly what I say and mean and why would I try to give you ways out when all you’ve done is spit at the offer. I’ve given you all plenty of chances to stop attacking me, to actually adequately defend your philosophies with substantive reasoning instead of insults, to actually discuss things rather than argue and fight and you have all, every single one of you, viewed such to be weakness, have claimed me not to know anything, despite all evidence to the contrary. And, when you make such a good man your enemy that is that far advanced from you, that is your own mistake, because the cheeks get too sore after a while, you burn up your bridges, abuse too much the chances given and when you expect to tell your enemy that you’ve had enough and expect him to stop, you’ll find yourself in the sorry situation where he refuses to because You don’t get the right to tell your enemy when you’ve had enough, especially when you were too foolish in making them your enemy to begin with when they gave you every opportunity not to. Sink or swim, survive or don’t. Admit that youre wrong, apologize, mean it and make appropriate changes to not be the fuck up you have been in life, or fight me unto your own death in this realm where your cause of death will be suicide.

It really makes no difference to me at this stage of the fight.

You’re just a routine RF…

You offered us something as god and we refused ???

Lololololololol … !!!

Dude , you’re a fucking fraud, pretender, asshole

If you say so, it must be true, even though none of your other theories have panned out. I wonder which part of me is routine, though. If me continually repeating truths such as ‘what you said of me is more true of you than me,’ and ‘youve got to do more than say a simple statement to have it be true’, is routine, then routine i must be.

However, do be so good as to remember im far more used to hate than love, that i was bred and forged in hellfire itself before being refined by the light of god and love and truth. You can rain your hate down on me, rain your lies, your annoyances and aggravations and still be no closer to having me rage or lose my place.

Come, hit me some more and keep proving how weak you are.

Narcissists have extreme fear of abandonment

You have it…

You are the type of being who is appalled if someone leaves you, and you move into control and “sacrifice” mode…

You are a textbook narcissist

There’s no known cure for personality disorders

Mr. Truth

That’s the truth

We’re forever in your debt.

Yeah, there’s mountains of it.

So because you can’t kick the shit out of anybody in real life, you’re going to make people commit suicide by talking to them over the internet?

This I gotta see.

I feel sorry for you, Random. In fact, I’m sorry. I’m really curious to know what it is you’re saying that we are all denying. I know you think I already know and I’m just not admitting it, but treat me like a moron (please!). Treat me like I just entered this conversation and all I’ve read so far is that you know something–something deep, something dark, something terribly significant, and that we are all in denial of it. Having just jumped into the conversation, I’m asking you: what is it?

I promise I won’t attach or make fun of you.

Yeah, but Gib, the problem is that youre not just jumping into this argument even though this is a fresh conversation within it. Youve seen some of the works Ive remarked about here, you can not convincingly play the unknowing or ignorant, nor can you even claim not to attack me when your very entrance to this conversation, reentrance to this fight, is an attack at me yet again. Its not that I cant beat people up irl, its that this is also real life and the damage being caused by you all extends far beyond the borders of this one forum and message board, whether you care for that to be true or not. And yes, when it boils down to it, I will see which among you commits suicide first because you all have seen the amount of attackers Ive had, one after another, sometimes groups at a time that have attempted to tear me apart and if you actually look at that on top of the actual good works Ive brought here, you would understand that you all tried to kill me first, that when I remarked that all of the stress and anxiety of being under attack when just wanting conversation was killing me, that they literally and openly said, ‘we’ve never killed anyone like that before’, like they were rising to the challenge.

But this and so much else I could state and point out to you is not unknown, you know it and have already begun to hit me and seek to keep me down, do know better than to do so and do it anyway like some guilty pleasure or secret you care not to ever reveal to anyone around you in your ‘rl’ as this effects that and vice versa. And so it becomes easier to resent me and become further ingrown for the injustice and tragedy you see that you only add to.

You, along with so many others, Gib, are your own self fulfilling prophecies, do destroy yourselves. What great works would i bother to share here from here on out when all of them have been shat upon and all true good people have long departed from this forum. There is no true philosophy here, no true discussion, just the depraved and myself as the depraved seek to latch onto my sanity and my thoughts to keep their lives from spiralling out of control and the fact that you do the same, Gib, reach out to me for stability in the mind and the spirit as you stab at me and try to kill me, destroy me, only fills you with guilt, bitterness, self hate as i show you the hole in the ground that you dug for yourself, the coffin that you built as you hammer the last nail home, the rope you wove and so unintentionally wove into a noose, disregarded as you crafted a gun and filled it with bullets, alongside the medication you could overdose on, alongside the razorblade romance you might still toy with the thought of, that jilted lover that had claimed but a few.

Time ticks on, second after second, minute after minute, hour after hour as you all unload on me time and again and I keep going like some freak of nature that just doesnt stop gaining ground all the while you all tick closer to your final breaths never realizing that i was dead from birth and only freshly resurrected while you all are coming close to your first deaths which will be absolute for having lived your lives ass backwards. And while you imagine that i say this however you imagine me to say it, know that its not one bit how you imagine it, not hollywood, not dramatic, but just pure and simple truth without embellishment or flashy perception or intonations of voice that becomes that drama you expect.

And what has you all at the greatest of losses is just that, that this is not tv, not your video games, not your movies, not the language you know, not the phrasings youve become accustomed to, does not have the feel to it that you recognize as being just for show, lacks the drama and the stage presence, lacks insanity or twisted visage and even lacks the persona of the heroes and ideals youve come to know.

In fact as much as this rolls through all that you would expect and do interact with it in your mind as I type it and that can be noted and noticed, the fact that such is noted and noticed at the same time as being something you never expected as it allows your expectations to somewhat form it at the same time as pulling away from them, you all should be more afraid than you actually are. Game time is done, play time is over.

The bottom line is that i was done putting up with it years ago and that is the stamina and endurance and staying power that i have had, to give you all every chance and opportunity to cease and desist and to actually be about what I claim at the same time as you all to be about what you all claim in fallacy, knowing full well how long it took me to do so and my diminishing and dwindling patience in the matter. And, i speak for far more than just myself. Put that to the test, it dares you.

None of you would put up with all that youve seen me deal with. It would kill every single one of you and so you keep piling it on me assuming that i must be close to death. Death itself is pissed the fuck off because by all rights I should be dead and yet it is not my time to die, yet. And, that you all try so hard to kill me and then sit there like smug little hypocrites and try to make me look bad for openly doing the same in response, in self defense, openly seeking to cause your suicides… well, when the fog begins to clear, other things dont much care for that and do agree that what i do is right.

Do you see anybody stopping me? Do you think me close to death? even if I were the devil himself instead of the god I claim, who do you see stopping me? And, you know you arent heroes, you yourself, Gib, know you arent a shining beacon of light in the darkness. so, either im the devil and the light is so lost that you lot are the best it can drag forward, or… im the hero and youre the villains wondering how the fuck i keep going.

You do realize there’s a person on this board who spent 3 billions years in hell and was sent back in time don’t you…???

I’ll give you a little advice - you don’t want to be the being you keep claiming to be

Walls of text with every post is also bad form