Reality - Version 0.1

I had forgot that I had a related video on youtube for that last post. So I edited it in.

The fundamental “fuzz balls”, I gave the same names as the commonly known physics particle; “electron, positron, and neutrino”. The larger polyparticles that are stable, I give the same names as commonly known physics particles; proton, neutron, anti-proton (or “negaton”). The small puffs of fleeting affectance dissipating into the vast cosmos, I don’t name. And you would be hard pressed to find a supermarket without them on every shelf. :sunglasses:

An absolute vacuum, a void of nothingness, is absolutely impossible. It is an ideal, much like the perfect circle or square, none of which can actually exist in the physical universe. I put it in quotes merely to indicate that it is called “absolute vacuum” even though it doesn’t actually exist.

Only that people should realize that each of these is a separate ontology and that none of them so far reflect a complete model of reality (with the exception of RM:AO). One cannot mix and match ontologies any more than mixing spoken languages and expect to make sense. For any of these ontologies to be “true” means that they properly and comprehensively map the terrain of reality. It is possible for more than one ontology to be true because an ontology is merely a way of describing reality. Some ontologies are more useful than others and dependent upon what field of interest is being addressed. Relativity ontology is good for extreme speed conditions. Newtonian ontology is good for most mechanical interactions. I consider String Ontology (and thus it complication M-theory) to be a bit of non-sense that even its inventor gave up on but is good for keeping mathematicians busy. Quantum Physics ontology is good for laughs and bemusing the children.

They are all incomplete, “open-ended”, “non-confinive” (except for Affectance Ontology, of course).

James

Now I can deal with a slightly larger chunk of information from the post that is found here

In my first response which can be found here we basically agreed that: The situation is both physical and conceptual - meta & physical. You in turn said: True. The physical affects the physical and the meta affects the meta. And at times, they are the same thing. Fundamentally we are saying that the two realms are concurrent.

Lets say for instance that I write a program in the physical realm. Would there not be meta+in+formation contained within the code? When I execute the said code it “causes to be” a program.

I see what you are saying here - I particularly like the example you are using relating to gravity. You are saying that gravity has a physical component - this physical component is a force - as stated previously force is ambiguous too - intuitively then gravity is like a reverse affectance. So I ask you then how is affectance able to explain gravity?

I understand what you are saying but for x number of people gravity is a pulling force - with affect on affect being what it is - gravity is not actually a pulling force.

To x number of people this would become counter-intuitive. Rationally on the other hand you are saying God is the physical universe.

:-k

Well, “concurrent” isn’t the best word. They coexist. The word “concurrent” implies motion and the conceptual realm has no motion or change.

Every physical existence has a conceptual existence.

… depending on how you define “program”; as a physical thing operating, a pattern of codes, or as a concept.

Imagine the you were the very first to invent the “jump to” command for computers. Before the command was ever executed, it was just an idea, a concept. But as the computer actually executes the command, the concept of “jumping on command” becomes a physical reality. As soon as the computer is no longer doing it, it is no longer a physical entity. Yet it was always a concept, before, during, and after its physical manifestation.

I am saying that what we call “gravity” is both physical in every location where it is operating and also “gravity” is a concept at all times. But as stated, there are no “forces”. Gravity is not a force, but rather a “gradient migration” (a migration due to an affectance density gradient).

Gravitating is what particles do when they are in an affectance density gradient (ie. denser gradually becoming less dense or vsvrsa). Particles migrate into the higher affectance density (assuming no polarity is involved).

Gravitation behaves such as to give the appearance of a pulling force. For all practical purposes, it might as well be a pulling force. But what is actually happening has nothing to do with forces pulling or pushing anything. The center point of each particle is merely getting reconstructed a little closer to the more dense affectance field - closer to the other mass as shown in this video:
RM:Affectance Ontology - Particle Migration - Momentum and Gravitation.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yW00U4ZEQ4[/youtube]

Some people say that, but I didn’t. The more original idea defining “God” is that God is the concept governing the behavior of physical existence. God is the principle behind to cause of physical existence, the “First/Prime Cause”. But to the materialist and God-haters, there is no conceptual existence, only physical existence. Thus in their ontology, there is no God - no Principle causing physical existence other than physical existence itself. It is a matter of ontology and what you choose to hate. But then they also preach the Big Bang. So one has to wonder how physical existence ever came about in their ontology. They usually just default to “well, the laws of physics were different back then” … which of course doesn’t answer the question, thus serving as a “god of the gaps” hand-waving (“The magical laws of physics did it”).

James

Affectance Ontology requires considerable effort to internalize and make intuitive; I believe this internalization is very worthwhile - the more I contemplate RM:AO the more I internalize it - I appreciate your considerable effort in helping me to understand.

:sunglasses:

An algorithm lives in metaspace - a program lives in physical space. The only part of the algorithm that lives in physical space is its physical representation. If I am thinking too much in terms of systems you are welcome to let me know - my subjective reality at the moment it seems is system based.

I understand where you are coming from - only when I read this - to internalize it is going to take me a little while longer.

OK this makes sense - I think - it seems to understand this, one needs to make some corrections to the way one thinks. I am so used to thinking in terms of physics but physics often leads to more ambiguity through gaps in descriptions. Would currently non-existent objects and behaviors be anything like the cloud formations in the future and the weather forecast used to describe the conditions for those clouds?

:-k

Taking a snap shot of reality requires a system - affectance causes systems - systems in nature are not permanent. The only system that is permanent is affectance.

Yes, or any other conjecture.

I’m not sure that it is the “only system that is permanent”, but it certainly is one. The physical universe can never be other than affectance. The higher forms that affectance takes will come and go in various regions, but the fundamental substance can never change. Although someone might choose a different way of describing it (a different ontology, “model”, or “system”).

James

Thank you.

Brilliant. I am quite satisfied with the way you have described this.

I will now collate information from this thread ready for the next part of the discussion.

:sunglasses:

Collated Formation - Part 1

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The reason for collating this text is to make it more
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God is the most fundamental, underlying principle causing the physical universe to exist, aka “First/Prime Cause”. And since God is an eternal entity (conceptual realm) and a cause, what is being caused must also be eternal, the physical universe.

To me, the word “metaspace” (aka “virtual space”) refers to the conceptual space, usually Euclidean space. God, and all “angels” are concepts that “exist in” the “Divine” or “Conceptual Realm” of ideas, concepts, and/or principles that govern physical behavior.

The triangle, circle, and square are also a part of that Divine or Conceptual Realm of “perfect” entities. So for me, the “Metaspace” is virtually the same thing as the Conceptual Realm within which God reigns with principle or fundamental affect. The Metaspace is the very concept of 3D space, not the physical space itself (which only exists due to the infinite amount of affectance). In a sense, affectance causes physical space.

Euclidean space is an ontological choice that can be chosen differently, such as Minkowski’s space or Einstein’s “spacetime”.
Each of those are metaspace concepts.

Endlessly

The “fundamental affect” is “affect-upon-affect”, the fundamental substance of the entire physical universe, an affect being altered by another affect. And it is governed by a Prime Principle which requires that no affect can ever be instantaneous or take zero amount of time (which is the result of infinity (as infA or H) always being less than infinity² (infA² or H²). Time, being defined as the measure of relative change (in this case, relative to other affecting). Affecting (aka “light in a vacuum”) propagates at a particular speed because it can do no other (“Let there be light” - “propagation of affect”).

The “Prime Principle” governing affect is simply, “Nothing can be what it isn’t” (Aristotle - “Dialectic”, aka “Logic”), “It is what it is” (Hebrew), “I am that which is” (Moses), or the ever popular, “I Am that I Am” (modern interpretation of Torah and the OT).

The entire physical universe is made of nothing but the fundamental affect, affect-upon-affect, aka an infinite field of “Affectance”.

To govern is to limit behavior. The name Ahdam (aka Adam, the purported first governor of Mankind), means “limiting random behavior” or “damming up the flow of chaotically free spirit”.

Chain of reasoning

I would say that metaspace “allows for” meta-objects. The entire “meta-whatever” tends to refer to abstract concepts. And in RM:AO, Euclidean space is used as the ontological choice for spatial dimensions. Within that “metaspace” (conceptual 3D-space), the infinite field of affectance flows and forms material matter.

An often misunderstood semantic distinction concerning “cause” and “description”.

For anything to physically exist, it must have physical affect. And anything that has physical affect, physically exists. Existence comes in two distinct and separate realms; Physical Realm and Conceptual or Divine Realm. The only physical existence is the situation of the affecting of the situation, the changing of the changing or affecting of the affecting. And because of that, it can be said that the only physically existing cause of anything is the concurrent situation. There is no other cause to anything, ever. One can accurately state that the real God is “The Situation” because it is The Situation (of all reality) that determines all that can and will be (the very definition of a god). And there can be only one true Situation, thus only one true god, aka “The God”.

We often say that “because of this abstract principle or general behavior certain changes will take place”. And when we say it that way, we are inadvertently imposing physical existence upon abstract notions. It isn’t the “general behavior” but rather the particular behavior that brings changes in a given situation. Particular behaviors physically exist in the physical realm while general behaviors or principles conceptually exist in the conceptual realm of existence.

On the other hand, wherever a general behavior is being enacted, that behavior is particular at that moment in that location and physically exists as a causation. So one cannot always separate the general principle from the physical reality. We can say that “the principle of gravity causes things to fall”. Is that true? Does the general principle called “gravity” actually cause anything? Is that general principle being enacted anywhere? Wherever it is being enacted, it physically exists as a cause.

In reference to God, there is the general behavior or principle called “God” and there is the actual concurrent situation called “God”. The concurrent situation throughout the entire universe is always enacting the general principle called “God”. Therefore that general principle must physically exist at all times and in all locations throughout the entire universe. That conclusion can’t be rationally avoided.

So whether a principle is merely a general description or an actual behavioral causation depends upon exactly which principle is being discussed.

When I speak of the general behavior of affectance, because affectance IS the entire universe, that general principle is physically real and a cause of physical changes. Even though it is an abstract notion, it is physically represented literally everywhere and thus is the physical reality.

So meta-objects and principles can be the physically real causality or they might be instead merely abstract descriptions of currently non-existent objects and behaviors.

PtA, Potential-to-Affect, refers to a physical situation, an arrangement of substance, not the substance itself. Space is similar in that regard. As PtA changes, it becomes the physical substance called “affectance”. And PtA is always undergoing changes, being affected as it affects. Affectance is the changing of the PtA situation. Affectance is the changing whereas PtA is the arrangement of the changing that is itself being changed. It is easiest to think of PtA as an electric field and affectance as a electromagnetic wave (EMR). An electric field is merely a situation, not a substance. And an electromagnetic wave is an electric field that is changing.

The physical affects the physical and the meta affects the meta. And at times, they are the same thing.

Collated Formation - Part 2

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The reason for collating this text is to make it more
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I have made a few small edits for the purpose of clarity.[/i]


There are times when a concept or an abstract principle is being physically enacted. During those times, the meta-concept and the physically real unite. God is one example of the union of the physical reality of God and the meta-concept of God. The Conceptual/Divine Realm, though a separate category, is not entirely exclusive of physical objects.

Things like perfect circles or squares cannot manifest in physical form, so they must always remain isolated in the Conceptual Realm. But I can’t think of anything physical that cannot be represented also in the Conceptual Realm.

The concept of a “circular shape” is not an idealized concept. A circular shape can be represented in the physical because there are no precise specifications beyond physical capability. But the circular shape concept and the physical circular shape might only stay united for a short period. The concept never changes, but the physical shape might deviate too far away from circular to say that it represents a circular shape any longer.

So the meta realm can “touch” the physical realm as ideas are temporarily manifest in physical form. During those moments, the concept and the physical are the same. But after a while, the physical is likely to drift away and no long be “in contact with” (no longer represent) the never changing concept.

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Memory and History

A memory is merely the residue of a perception. It has physical existence in that it affects the physical brain and mind. But with every physical anything, there is also an associated concept. The concept always remains the same concept, but the physical memory eventually falls to entropy.

There is a real history, a perceived history, and proposed history. They are seldom the same. The actual past does not physically exist, rather the past forms a residue that is the present as the present forms a residue to become the future.

As known among tank and bulldozer pilots, “Mind carefully the path you make by the path you take.”

In everything you do, you are forming the future and displacing the past.

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A circle isn’t defined as a polygon with an infinity of sides, but even if it was, you can go through the logic concerning the probability of an infinity of perfectly equal length lines aligning such as to have the exact same distance from a particular point as well as being aligned end to end such as to reconnect into a circle. The probability would become more than infinitely low. And that means no chance at all.

The physical universe cannot produce straight lines either. So certainly not an infinity of them. :sunglasses:

Light photons (light bundles of energy) are extremely large puffs of affectance (relative to afflate sizing) traveling in a single direction. Such large groups have to “swim” through the ambient affectance field and thus their speed is dependent upon the density of that field.

A field of absolute zero affectance is not physically possible, but the thought of it allows for a measuring point for “zero density” (absolute nothingness). IF such a zero-field existed, affectance would travel through that zero-field at a particular speed (infinite speed is impossible due to all affects requiring time). A puff of affectance with zero resistance must propagate as fast as any affect can possibly travel. That much is logically required.

A puff of light traveling through an “absolute vacuum” would be the same as an afflate traveling through absolute nothingness. And thus the propagation speed of both would be identical = “the speed of light in an absolute vacuum” = “c0”.

Real light photons can never actually do that and in fact, due to their size, there is always an afflate that is propagating faster than any light photon. But the difference between them is almost immeasurably small. So practically speaking, the speed of light in an absolute vacuum, the speed of an afflate in zero density ambient affectance, and the fastest propagation speed possible are all the same. What the Quantum Magi like to imagine has been proven too often to be mere mathematically obfuscated fantasy.

Certainly. First there are no “forces” as such. What we experience as “force” is actually just an emergent effect due to gradient migrations. The strong and weak force issues fall into that category - nonexistent. And also, the Quantum Magi have attempted to imagine and name very many “particles” concerning subatomic structure which do not exist either. They preach as if it is all factual when in reality, most of their speculations have never been witnessed at all. And even what has been witnessed is spun into their broken ontology at their convenience.

Quantum Physics is not merely incomplete, but entirely fantasy. Their equations often work, but not for the superstitious reasoning that the give. The equations work simply because they have been dealing with averages of interactions that accumulate into extremely precise numbers that can be easily repeated. But the averages are not particles at all. No single reaction ever obeys Quantum Physics, rather the average effect turns out to be predictable. And that means that their speculated “particles” are just nonsense imaginings, fairies in the forest. They are the modern day high-tech Mother Goose spewing fairy tales to explain the unobservable mysteries.

With that in mind, realize that I do not try to work their fantasy particles into RM:AO (“leptons”, “muons”, “gluons”, “quarks”, “hadrons”, “gravitons”,…). Affectance ontology is about what absolutely must be true regardless of any prior observations, speculations, imaginings, or namings. Observations display that there are subatomic particles and that such particles form, aggregate, disperse, and vanish with associated EMR. Exactly why they do such has been the fuel for fantasy imaginings for centuries. RM:AO explains exactly why they do all that they do without having to invent hundreds of fantasy particles and magical forces.

Continued in part 3 . . .

Collated Formation - Part 3

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The reason for collating this text is to make it more
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I have made a few small edits for the purpose of clarity.[/i]


. . . Continued from part 2

The primary issue in subatomic interactions is the decay and formation of particles and the energy involved (typically in the form of EMR). As any interaction occurs, energy is either released or absorbed. In Quantum Physics every tiny puff of energy is given another name and called a “quantum particle”. In reality, they are almost never particles (self sustaining entities) nor unique in any way other than being merely a different amount of energy being released or absorbed. In RM:AO terms, it would be variations in the amount of “affectance” being released or absorbed - no “particles” involved other than those remaining stable.

In RM:AO there are particles and also “polyparticles”. A polyparticle is merely a single particle that is made of smaller stable, self-sustaining particles. An atom’s nucleus is an example of a polyparticle in that it is protons and neutrons coalesced into a single mass. When they coalesce, they absorb a considerable amount of extra affectance (of which they are made and RM:AO explains why they do). That extra affectance is released when the smaller particles are separated. Quantum Physics likes to call that extra affectance a “particle” (such as a “gluon particle”), yet it has no epicenter and is not at all stable in itself. They invent the “weak force” as the superstitious magic that holds it all together. When separated, the extra affectance merely radiates as a small puff of EMR. Radioactive nuclear decay - “nuclear fission”, even explosive, is the observable result.

What they choose to call the “weak force” (or more recently the “weak interaction” … perhaps waking up to the fact that there isn’t any actual force involved) seems to be a catch-all for whatever other force-like interactions that they haven’t named. What used to be called a “chemical bond” is now a “weak force/interaction” as well.

The mythical “strong force” hides within the larger particles; protons, neutrons, anti-protons, and such. These are also polyparticles formed of positron, neutrino, and electron sized stable particles. And again, as the smaller particles coalesce, they absorb extra affectance, causing the aggregant to be much, much larger than the individual particles. A proton is about 1000 times larger than the positron and neutrinos that formed it. In Quantum Physics, the sub-particles of the proton are called “quarks” with “flavors” of “up, down, top, bottom, strange and charm”. Such designations are merely their effort to put together a jigsaw puzzle ontology that will allow for logical explanation of what they observe while including what they want to believe.

The fundamental “fuzz balls”, I gave the same names as the commonly known physics particle; “electron, positron, and neutrino”. The larger polyparticles that are stable, I give the same names as commonly known physics particles; proton, neutron, anti-proton (or “negaton”). The small puffs of fleeting affectance dissipating into the vast cosmos, I don’t name. And you would be hard pressed to find a supermarket without them on every shelf. :sunglasses:

An absolute vacuum, a void of nothingness, is absolutely impossible. It is an ideal, much like the perfect circle or square, none of which can actually exist in the physical universe. I put it in quotes merely to indicate that it is called “absolute vacuum” even though it doesn’t actually exist.

Only that people should realize that each of these is a separate ontology and that none of them so far reflect a complete model of reality (with the exception of RM:AO). One cannot mix and match ontologies any more than mixing spoken languages and expect to make sense. For any of these ontologies to be “true” means that they properly and comprehensively map the terrain of reality. It is possible for more than one ontology to be true because an ontology is merely a way of describing reality. Some ontologies are more useful than others and dependent upon what field of interest is being addressed. Relativity ontology is good for extreme speed conditions. Newtonian ontology is good for most mechanical interactions. I consider String Ontology (and thus it complication M-theory) to be a bit of non-sense that even its inventor gave up on but is good for keeping mathematicians busy. Quantum Physics ontology is good for laughs and bemusing the children.

They are all incomplete, “open-ended”, “non-confinive” (except for Affectance Ontology, of course).

Every physical existence has a conceptual existence.

… depending on how you define “program”; as a physical thing operating, a pattern of codes, or as a concept.

Imagine that you were the very first to invent the “jump to” command for computers. Before the command was ever executed, it was just an idea, a concept. But as the computer actually executes the command, the concept of “jumping on command” becomes a physical reality. As soon as the computer is no longer doing it, it is no longer a physical entity. Yet it was always a concept, before, during, and after its physical manifestation.

I am saying that what we call “gravity” is both physical in every location where it is operating and also “gravity” is a concept at all times. But as stated, there are no “forces”. Gravity is not a force, but rather a “gradient migration” (a migration due to an affectance density gradient).

Gravitating is what particles do when they are in an affectance density gradient (ie. denser gradually becoming less dense or vsvrsa). Particles migrate into the higher affectance density (assuming no polarity is involved).

Gravitation behaves such as to give the appearance of a pulling force. For all practical purposes, it might as well be a pulling force. But what is actually happening has nothing to do with forces pulling or pushing anything. The center point of each particle is merely getting reconstructed a little closer to the more dense affectance field - closer to the other mass as shown in this video:
RM:Affectance Ontology - Particle Migration - Momentum and Gravitation.

The more original idea defining “God” is that God is the concept governing the behavior of physical existence. God is the principle behind to cause of physical existence, the “First/Prime Cause”. But to the materialist and God-haters, there is no conceptual existence, only physical existence. Thus in their ontology, there is no God - no Principle causing physical existence other than physical existence itself. It is a matter of ontology and what you choose to hate. But then they also preach the Big Bang. So one has to wonder how physical existence ever came about in their ontology. They usually just default to “well, the laws of physics were different back then” … which of course doesn’t answer the question, thus serving as a “god of the gaps” hand-waving (“The magical laws of physics did it”).

I’m not sure that it is the “only system that is permanent”, but it certainly is one. The physical universe can never be other than affectance. The higher forms that affectance takes will come and go in various regions, but the fundamental substance can never change. Although someone might choose a different way of describing it (a different ontology, “model”, or “system”).

End of collation.

James

I am very tired, so I can only hope to get this question right.

I am guessing that the PtA situation you mention is both physical and meta. So the EMR is affecting the substance?

This makes some sense to me even though I am very tired - I still need to brush up - simply put however - energy and matter are the same thing(namely substance) - EMR is the carrier for electromagnetic radiant energy. If I am on the right track then it looks like I understand PtA and affectance.

Space is an arrangement of substance.

I have already had strange dreams about all of this.

:-k

Oh, sorry about that.

Emmm… EMR (Electromagnetic Radiation, aka “light, radio waves, X-rays, cosmic rays,…”) is the affecting of the ambient affecting in the form of waves. All together they are the affectance. The concept of “affectance” is “all of the subtle affecting going on”. That includes all forms of EMR, gravitation, mass coalescence, magnetics, voltages, currents, … Anything that exists is a form of affectance (“To exist means to affect”). When not referring to any particular form or of just random noise, the affectance is the basic “substance” that could be reformed into any of the higher forms listed; EMR, gravitation,…

So EMR is one form of affectance propagating through the more subtle and random form of affectance - like a sound compression wave within the sea.

Yes, namely “affectance in different forms”.

“Carrier for”?? EMR IS electromagnetic Radiation.

…Yes, you are tired. :sunglasses:

PtA is like voltage while affectance is like random EMR and currents. And a voltage is a situation, not a substance.

James

The dreams are a good sign so no need to apologize - it means RM:AO is being internalized. They get a little weird but fortunately dreams don’t bother me much these days. The last dream in a nut shell was a grid of affectance - so it was 2D - and 3D eyes materialized out of it - strange but that is about how it was. Whereas real affectance would be in 3D - time being a pending factor that we will discuss later.

So space is an arrangement of substance. The substance is affectance. Energy and matter are the same thing(namely substance) - id est “affectance in different forms”.

PtA, Potential-to-Affect, refers to a physical situation, an arrangement of substance, not the substance itself. <<< A snap shot at any given time can be used to represent it. Space is the same.

Regarding EMR - I need to be straight up with you about this - first of all I understand that EMR stands for electromagnetic radiation - do not take the way I said this to be rude in any way - that is not my intention. I just want to be clear that I understand what the abbreviation stands for.

Secondly I understand because I was tired at the time I might have been obscuring my explanation.
I am glad you can appreciate that. Let me attempt an explanation a slightly different way.

Suggestion: If this turns into a physics debate it might be better to take it into PM.

Now the way I understand EMR is as follows:

  1. We are referring to waves of/in the electromagnetic field(EMF).
  2. The waves propagate(radiate) through this spatial field(EMF).
  3. The waves come in different forms(characterized by the spectrum).
  4. The waves are transverse - id est the oscillations occur at right angles to the direction of energy transfer.*
  5. Energy** moves~ and is characterized by the wave propagation.

*Sound waves are longitudinal as far as I recall id est “sound compression wave”.
**Electromagnetic radiant energy.
~I picture this as affect upon affect.

My possible false usage: EMR is the carrier for electromagnetic radiant energy <<< probably not the best way to say what I was thinking.

A carrier wave is just a modified waveform - which is probably what triggered my possible false usage.

The electric field as I understand it is the very thing(the situation) that the transverse waves are propagating through and there is a direction in which these very waves move - the electric field is a part of space as your RM:AO is describing - otherwise the electromagnetic field extends throughout space which is not what you are saying.

The way I read it the electromagnetic field is imaginary - it is just the situation not the substance. The substance is energy. That would mean the concept of EMR would be a changing in the EM field(EMF). I imagine the electric field, magnetic field and electromagnetic field are dealing with situations in three different ways.

Mathematically speaking the electromagnetic tensor describes the electromagnetic field in space/time - surely the description is the situation - id est a snap shot in discrete terms. I only added this small section to add to the illustration - obviously it is less pertinent to our discussion.

Hopefully I am making some sense James - I am a little out of practice but I can guarantee I will nail it.

:-k

My apologies if I seemed condescending. It was your use of “carrier” that made me wonder where your mind was. So I laid out the language substrata so we could see where we each were.

Realize that in current Newtonian physics, a “field” is a “force field”, a topography of the mythical force vectors. RM:AO has no such force vectors, thus no “force fields”. RM:AO has affectance density fields, much like the humidity density of clouds or of people in a city. There is no “action at a distance” in AO (Einstein would have loved AO).

So Affectance waves propagate through an affectance field of different density than the affectance wave (again, like a sound wave in water). Affectance waves are always compression and often PtA propagating waves, “puffs”, or coalesced aggregates. The Newtonian physics equivalents are; electromagnetic waves, photons, and mass particles. A Maxwellian magnetic field is merely a compressed electric field (revealed by RM:AO). An electromagnetic wave is a compressed and/or decompressed electric wave propagating through ambient space = EMR.

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The blue wave is the PtA propagation (a Maxwellian “electric voltage wave”). The pink or purple wave is the magnetic component. Note that the magnetic component increases as the PtA wave enters a higher density affectance field - a gravity field. That compression is accompanied by a retardation in propagation speed. And that effect is the cause for Einstein’s “spacetime” relativity because both time and distance measures are compressed as the any wave enters a higher density affectance field. Those measure return to their normal by existing the higher density.

Yeah. I don’t understand that usage (and probably not relevant).

The “field” is the point by point variation in the potential of the overall situation (hence; “electric potential” and “Potential-to-Affect”). It is legitimate to talk about a “PtA field” in that sense, just not a “force field”. And keep in mind that a fixed magnet’s “magnetic field” is not the same as Maxwell’s magnetic component of EMR, although related.

Yes but … What precisely, is “energy”? Decades ago, they spoke of “potential energy” and “kinetic energy”. Those were actually identical to “Potential-to-Affect, PtA” and “Affectance” with merely one distinction: “Energy” was described merely as “the ability to do work” … but what constitutes “work”? RM:AO precisely describes “affect” in simple unambiguous terms (“to cause a change”). They had it right. They just didn’t relate it to the philosophical concern of “what is existence” other than to merely claim that “existence is energy as far as science can detect”. RM:AO is very specific and exact concerning the nature of existence as well as how and why all of the “laws” of physics and science in general exist. So now people get crazy with nonsense speculations of what existence might be - “perhaps those scientists just got it wrong”. There is no room for RM:AO to be wrong because the foundation is totally complete, comprehensive, “whole” and very revealing of why things are the way they are.

Yes. The electric field is the field of potential. The magnetic field is the compression of the electric field (the degree of point-by-point compression), and the electromagnetic field is the propagating combination. And realize, again, that a permanent magnet’s “magnetic field” is a different story than merely the "point-by-point compression of the electric field. A permanent magnet’s magnetic field is more related to the electromagnetic field, but not the same.

Actually I am hoping that I am making some sense. RM:AO is actually pretty simple, but once the mind is infected with current complex physics imagery, it can be difficult to see how simple the real picture is.

James

[b][i]I have two questions . . .

First I will start with my own paragraph to set the theme . . .
then make a couple of quotes from Wikipedia.
I will finish with both questions.[/i][/b]
. . .

To unify the forces as described in science we need to think a little differently - that I have no doubt about, given how long the scientific fraternity has spent attempting to prove each Grand Unified Theory (GUT) and Theory of Everything (ToE).

ToE . . .
I see RM:AO as a ToE rather than a GUT - would you say this is correct?

Regarding the simpler sciences . . .
So why is it do you think people find it difficult to make the connection between RM:AO and any such part of science, for instance Electromagnetism?

:sunglasses:

James will point out that people (not him) don’t realize when they are doing what the very thing they assert is incorrect without being aware of it.

I pointed this out a year ago in about one sentence and James ignored it.

James says affectance is affectance affecting itself. The only way a variance of: (list whatever variable you see fit) can be variant of itself, is if it ceases to be variant at all. What this means logically is that James’ own idea contains the seed to force the very thing he claims impossible (stasis). Instead of resolving this issue, he has ignored it.

Ecmandu

Are you saying that absolute uniformity is possible?

Well, I think that Wiki is a bit slanted. Given that Quantum Physics is true, then a GUT would require as they state (and require quantum gravity). What they are really describing is the “GUM”, Grand Unification Mass. In effect, the Quantum Magi are claiming that if you want a GUT, you have to agree with us. I use the term “Grand Unification Theory” a bit more grandly, not confining it to only Quantum Physics models, else any true ToE would immediately forbid any GUT (since gravity is actually not quantized … nor are any of the fantasy “forces”).

A ToE is actually whatever manages to make sense of it all; quantum, relative, or otherwise. In that sense, RM:AO is certainly a ToE. But both ToE and GUT tend to be used merely for physics models, nothing else. RM:AO doesn’t stop there. RM:AO provides a unifying theory encompassing ALL sciences, society, religion, psychology, and even economics … and that is what I call “Grand” and “Everything”.

First simply because “people” haven’t heard of RM:AO. Secondly, until “They say”, 99% of people will just assume that they are too incapable of thinking for themselves so whatever the current elite or famous say must be the real truth. They don’t actually try, although will argue endlessly of the righteousness of the famed elite.

Thirdly, and more importantly, RM:AO undermines the very notion of forces (as Einstein preferred). People are taught from birth about the forces, especially electrical and gravitational. They take it that these forces have been very demonstrated and proven for hundreds of years now. It takes a philosopher to see through such ingrained programming and realize what “proof” actually requires and why it might seem a proven ontology while not actually ever having been proven. The use of mathematics keeps most people accepting and revering theories as factual, not realizing that the math floats around on top of and after the ontology. And once a theory has become the concurrent mindset, it is difficult for people to see reality any other way. People are not taught to understand that there are many potential ontologies, all of which could be simultaneously true (as long as they are not mixed). RM:AO is a different mindset.

Fourthly, for any theory to gain significant popular attention, it must be useful to military science first. Everyone is willing to say, “well maybe” until the theory is actually used to blow something up, then it becomes a reality to be attended and defended … much like political factions and religions.

So all in all, it is just too early in the game. :sunglasses:

And all of that above, in RM:AO terms reduces to be merely an issue of Sociological “Impedance Matching” … a very significant concern in AO.

Not of everything, but of specifics: certainly. Absolute is uniformity. To even make these conceptual phrases requires an absolute uniformity. These conceptual phrases are being acted upon by other “elements”, as James suggests, in order to illuminate them, however, what illuminates them is not a thing!

I described this earlier when I spoke about not being able to stand in the same river twice. It’s never the same river, so how could it ever be a river? How could you even step in it the first time?!?! This is the subtlety James has ignored. In fact of matter, it is both a thing (the same river) AND!! It’s also always moving to the point of not even being a river, it ceases to be a thing and is now an action.

James

I think “everything” is reducible to one or two factors - ultimately right - requiring right and wrong. Your answer is sufficient for me; there is one thing that I will approach with you. First I want to get Ecmandu’s general thoughts on GUT and ToE.

Ecmandu

I see what you are saying and I will respond to it, however I would appreciate what your general thoughts are regarding GUT and ToE.


The purpose of this post might not be immediately apparent but I do have a reason for it.

:-k

Sure.

These are properly understood as unifying the four or so forces into a single formula.

This is going to ultimately come down to what I stated earlier… solving speed and position simultaneously.

It’s very on topic.

I’m curious where you’re going with this …