True Christianity

It came from the Hindu, “Krishna”.

Or Greek Xριστός (Khristos), meaning Anointed, which in turn is the literal translation of the Hebrew word Messiah.

Since Sankskrit is the original Indo European language though I can see that the terms Krishna and Khristos could share the same root.

Though…

stabroeknews.com/2008/opini … ymologies/

Ahaha, that means that Christ shares the same etymology as cream, in the same way as it relates to grime, and grease. It does make sense.

Makes a whole load of sense out of modern Christian culture.
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It goes to show how degenerate man has become when he becomes ecstatic in the “presence” of the “holy spirit” (think of those mega churches or southern baptist churches or any Latin American church )…But when confronted with the ancient Greeks, he feels nothing… Like he has lost all “sense”…

Compare to what Nietzsche says about the impression that the ancient Greeks give:

Christ is (at best) sort of a young dying Greek god but completely divorced from heroic Greek values, a pagan god superimposed on a Jewish value system.

And most self-proclaimed Christians can’t even live up to the level of discipline required by the Bible to actually be a Christian in the true sense (which would require living a very austere, monkish type of life)… and even this type of Christian, even if free of resentment, still retreats from the world.

Even if that was the case which I’ve read over the possible Indian and Buddhist connections to Christianity it is a foreign religion introduced in the west with Jewish leanings. Makes no level of difference whatsoever.

Fixed wrote:

Mate, give me a little bit more than that.

Are your referring to the Greek Septuagint as one of your possible translations? or

“The Jewish Tanakh follows the Masoretic textual tradition, while some Christian groups follow ancient translations based on other textual traditions (Septuagint, Peshitta, Vulgate, etc.) or combine readings from different textual traditions. The Jewish Publishing Society’s 1917 English translation is subtitled, “According to the Masoretic Text”. Eastern Orthodox translators follow the Septuagint reading. Syriac Orthodox translators use an ancient translation called Peshitta. Catholic translators regularly consult the Vulgate, an ancient Latin translation. Protestant and interdenominational translation are influenced by these sources and (since 1946) the Dead Sea Scrolls”.

Generally, the differences are minor to nonexistent, but occasionally a word or phrase will differ. Usually the translator will note such variations in footnotes.

HAS MESSIAH COME?
by Avram Yehoshua
A most amazing thing occurs in the ninth chapter of Daniel: we’re told when Messiah would come. But instead of explaining it to us, our Rabbis curse anyone wanting to find it out: ‘Rabbi Samuel b. Nachmani said in the name (of) Rabbi Jonathan: ‘Blasted be the bones of those who calculate the end.

There is a lot to respond to in here. I will address some of the things. There are copious amounts of Christians who interpret Genesis allegorically. A famous Christian apologist, William Lane Craig, does - he believes in theistic evolution, as well as many other Christian scholars and laymen. Genesis is very symbolic. Example: Eve being created out of Adam’s rib - that is very much dream-like symbolism.

Perpetual, Jesus is the greatest warrior of all-time. He was not divorced from heroic values. Heroes are people who save others from calamity, no? Beowulf saving the people from Grendel, for example. Jesus saved us from the worst monster of all: the devil. The hero is fueled by the intense love within his heart for his people. Christ’s battle was not physical (swords, spears), it was spiritual, on a higher level. Jesus is the quintessence of the heroic. He is the most epic hero of all time and he is now seated at the right hand of God, with great glory.

And Christianity is not about austerity, nor asceticism; it’s about love. Love is the essence of the gospel. Love God with all your soul, heart, and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus’ sacrifice upon the cross was the ultimate manifestation of God’s love.

Erik wrote:

In theistic evolution, the Bible is regarded as a collection of documents which partially contains God’s Word. Christians who adopt evolution are inconsistent because essentially, they are telling God that they believe Him but they do not trust Him when He tells us about how He created the world.

God is not going to judge someone based off whether they believe Genesis is allegorical or literal; He is going to judge them based of whether or not they accept that Jesus died for their sins and rose again on the third day. You are saved by faith alone in the sacrifice of Jesus, you are not saved by holding to the exact same interpretations of certain denominations about how the world was created or how it will be destroyed. Faith in the Holy blood of Jesus is what saves alone.

You can still be a Christian and believe in theistic evolution.

This goes without saying but I will anyway. If you accept Jesus into your heart you will live by a higher conscience with the purity of an angel (Jesus), if you do not live by the example of Jesus then Jesus is not in your heart and you may not like what comes next especially living the lie of saying you have Jesus in your heart. It really is an impossible way to live as clean as Jesus.

Erik, I wrote a great deal to you here viewtopic.php?f=5&t=193179. Awaiting your responses. O:)

if jesus is satan i may convert to christianity

im pretty sure god is the worst monster ever made, after all he made hell… and cursed as all to live a life inside a shitty world, which he all could have prevented i might add.

Trixie,

Do you really see it that way?

I think that what created hell is our own version of the truth of things, our own interpretation of who or what God is, and our own version of the truth of what justice is.

Who could possibly believe in a god who condemns his own creations to an eternal living hell?

so your philosophy is basically, god is real but the bible is a pack of lies.

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Erik, throughout the SCRIPTURES not denominations, there are references to God creating all things, one example is “thou are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: FOR THOU HAST CREATED ALL THINGS.” (Revelation 4:11) and there are more examples.

The Bible is the primary way that God reveals Himself to man and without complete study of the Bible, you might become confused by the teachings of some New Age cult, being taught evolution and believing that the Bible is full of fiction, fantasy, and fables. Though written over a period of 1,600 years by about 40 different authors, speaking four different languages, it delivers ONE MESSAGE and ONE VOICE.

“It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” —Matthew 4:4

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I will speak of God when the conversation is about God but I don’t actually believe. at all.
The closest that I can get to a concept about God is “pure energy”.
Basically for me it is a Jungian archetype.
That doesn’t mean that it cannot be a valid one - after all, we are human.

I don’t necessarily believe that the bible is a pack of lies. Some of it is history. Perhaps some of it is lies and/or aggrandized just as sometimes history does not always tell the truth of things but adorns it or plays it down.
The bible is inspiration but I do not believe that it is a God’s inspiration; rather, it is inspiration and imagination as interpreted from the hearts and minds of those who wrote it.

As I do not believe in throwing the baby out with the bathwater, there is a lot of human wisdom within it.

Trixie, God does not condemn anyone to hell, they condemn themselves by rejecting Jesus. Accepting Jesus into your heart is NOT drudgery, it is a tremendous joy. His yoke is easy and his burden is light. If you understood just how beautiful it is to know God through His son Jesus, you would realize how absurd it is to reject him.

Good things happen to good people; bad things happen to bad people.

Only bad people go to hell.

The way you live your life, how you treat other people, will be reflected back at you, in the next life. Jesus is the source of all that is good and when you reject him, you reject the good.

Arcturus, you should believe in Jesus; he is the Truth. Everyone knows this deep within their hearts

God is not pure energy. Energy is something He created.

God is the highest reality and He is personal and conscious.

Just ignore Trixie’s post above, while it is in the process of being deleted.

Read what I posted before her asinine comment.

Erik, you are making some extremely radical claims about peoples lives.
Okay, if you were God, you would have that prerogative. But you are merely a believer.

Perhaps you can show us how Jesus has improved your life, your world, made you wholesome -
because just proclaiming your absolute knowledge about what humans need to do, is not going to turn anyone toward your Jesus, I expect you are aware of this, as you are a smart kid.

What has Jesus done for you?
Don’t come with things like “he made me happy” -

Can you provide something actual? An experience that we can relate to?

No one on a philosophy site will ever respond positively to being lectured.
The only reason I lecture is to piss people off and to get my ideas archived online.

I dont delude myself into thinking people accept anything that they are being told to accept.
I don’t care who does and who doesn’t accept my truths - I just care to express them. I consider that my duty.

In this sense your evangelizing is respectable, as your responsiveness to what you consider duty.
But if you wish to save people and get them in the arms of Jesus, you wil have to be more empathic and imaginative, more welcoming and creative -

Show us a Christian world that is awesome, that trumps the world of us sinners down here.
Employ your powers for your values.

Now that is interesting! So, what sort of god would be more impressive?

If you had all the power in the universe that there is to have, what would be the most difficult thing for you to do? The answer would be your most impressive accomplishment.