Charlottesville Virginia Clash.

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 11:57am

You are a more moderate liberal? Did you read Carleas’ thread about companies censoring speech? Are you in the USA as a citizen? If so, are you a socialist (Democratic liberal left) out to destroy the USA or are you a nationalist who wishes to protect your country?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNMehvawNzU[/youtube]
The Milo Riots commentary

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 12:36pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnHPKRjGOVs[/youtube]

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 12:49pm

You have a very active imagination indeed if you think I want to see America destroyed Wendy. But having said that I
am not at all surprised at what is happening and I think it will carry on for as long as Trump is president if not longer

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 12:50pm

So you cannot answer my questions honestly? Do you not realize that taking apart the country is what the Democrats wish to fulfill with their global socialist agenda?

Freedom of Speech
Freedom of Assembly are under attack by the Democrats.

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 12:59pm

I suggest you read them again then you will know what the answers are

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 1:01pm

The United States of America (and maybe Australia) are the last bastions of free speech. Democrats wish to destroy that.

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 1:05pm

My questions (plural).

s57’s answer (singular)

Why are you helping them fulfill their destructive agenda s57?

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 1:06pm

Liberals, leftists, democrats cannot be honest I’ve decided, they can only play the victims and the attackers simultaneously.

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 1:18pm

The liberal left democrats were already carrying out their plan to dismantle the US Constitution long before Donald Trump came along, but Trump makes a fine scapegoat for them, the insane minority, and a fine savior for us, the sane majority, I mean us nationalist terrorists.

The left is so far removed from the reality of their actions that those actions never happened, nope, nothing was done or is being done by the left to harm the United States of America, the US Constitution’s right to free speech. It’s funny when they go completely insane by a Trump comment they don’t like. Hearing things you don’t like is apart of free speech, but they must be violent when they hear words they don’t like and they must change laws to make sure that freedom of speech dies.

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 1:23pm

Please explain how exactly am I doing this as I have absolutely no idea

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 1:33pm

Oh, now you want me to answer your question.

By being dishonest and detached from reality you enable their cause to destroy the USA.

Let’s retrace our steps back to my questions, so I can understand what you mean by your liberal self. Describe your liberal self and the ways you do not align with the democratic agenda.

First, do you support the illegitimization of Trump’s Presidency and his impeachment? If so, based on what?

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 1:48pm

Do you think this is the opinion of someone who wants to see America destroyed

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 2:14pm

More questions without answering any questions. Disingenuous, another trait of the democratic liberal left.

So far what can be noticed about democratic liberal lefties is found in their conversations (verbal and written) are

Detached from reality
Dishonest due to be their detachment from reality
Disingenuous in the information they exchange

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 2:42pm

You accuse me of being detached from reality yet I agree with every single word you have written here [ other than when you say the left you do not mean all the left just the alt left or ANTIFA ] This is why I asked you if that was the opinion of someone who wants to see America destroyed because I certainly do not want to

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 2:47pm

Either you understand what you are aligning yourself with or you do not. Since you cannot answer my questions in a forthright manner, you support the destruction of the United States of America.

surreptitious57 · August 17, 2017, 3:04pm

Your questions were addressed to me as if I were an American but I am not so I did not think I had to answer them
But if you wish me to answer them as a non American instead I will be more than happy to so go ahead and ask me

WendyDarling · August 17, 2017, 3:07pm

Asking you if you were a citizen of the USA was many questions back and this would have been resolved back then if you’d just answered my damn question yes or no. =D> An intelligent non-American I gather.

James_S_Saint · August 17, 2017, 3:20pm

You guys should Google Agitprop sometime:

Jack Cashill:

Script of Engagement
To understand the events in Charlottesville, it helps to know how the left operates. During the 2016 campaign, veteran Democratic operative Scott Foval unwittingly shared the left’s playbook with anyone who cared to see.

Foval explained his strategy to an undercover journalist with James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas. He boasted specifically about the art of provoking violence at Trump rallies, all of which was recorded on camera.

“There’s a script of engagement,” said Foval. “Sometimes the crazies bite, and sometimes the crazies don’t bite.”

He continued, “They’re starting conversations in the line. Right? They’re not starting confrontations in the rally. Because once they’re inside the rally they’re under Secret Service’s control.”

The “they” in question are the provocateurs Foval’s people planted to agitate the crowd. Some were seasoned operatives like the union thugs Democrats have employed for years. “They’ll do whateeeevvverrr you want,” said Foval.

Others were clueless human cannon fodder. “I’m saying we have mentally ill people that we pay to do s–t,” Foval bragged. “Make no mistake. Over the last 20 years, I’ve paid off a few homeless guys to do some crazy stuff.”

Foval understood that this strategy worked only because the media wanted it to work. “The media will cover it no matter where it happens,” he stated. “The key is initiating the conflict by having leading conversations with people who are naturally psychotic.”

“I mean, honestly, it is not hard to get some of these a–holes to pop off,” he elaborated. “It is a matter of showing up, to want to get into the rally in ‘Planned Parenthood’ T-shirts or ‘Trump is a Nazi,’ you know. You can message to draw them out, and draw them to punch you.”

This is not a strategy Foval improvised for the campaign. The “script of engagement” dates back to at least the 1920s when the Soviets/Russians first started meddling in American politics.

The occasion then was the ongoing saga of Sacco and Vanzetti, a pair of Italian anarchists who received a fair trial for a murder committed during a payroll robbery and were convicted.

Guilty or not, the Soviet Comintern stirred up massive worldwide agitation on their behalf. Sympathetic liberal writers flocked to the cause and reported events as scripted by the Comintern. This combination of agitation and propaganda came to be known as “agitprop.”

Agitprop was clearly the name of the game at Charlottesville on Saturday. The script of engagement called for the counter-protesters to stoke the “crazies” on the right, knowing well that the media would report events in the left’s favor.

Embedded among the counter-protesters, many of them innocent liberals, were the hardcore bully boys of Antifa. The Neo-Nazis were a self-deluding relic of the past, but Antifa may well be the vanguard of the future.

Although the American media are inclined to protect Antifa, the BBC proved much more forthright in its coverage.

“Antifa is anti-government and anti-capitalist, and their methodologies are often perceived as more closely aligned with anarchists than the mainstream left,” wrote the BBC’s Brenna Cameron.

“Antifa does not shy away from militant protest methods, including the destruction of property and sometimes physical violence. They were present at the 2017 Berkeley protests of far-right speaker Milo Yiannopoulos and at violent protests against Donald Trump’s inauguration; they were also present at Charlottesville.”

Cameron added the obvious, “Unlike the mainstream left, they do not seek to gain power through traditional channels – winning elections and passing bills into law.”

Lenin referred to the well-intended progressives who flocked to his cause as “useful idiots.” For him, they were pure pawns, totally expendable once they ceased to be useful. On Saturday, unfortunately, they served the same purpose for Antifa.

At Charlottesville, Antifa succeeded in stoking at least one crazy. For reasons still not fully established, he drove his car into a crowd of protesters, killed one seemingly innocent liberal and wounded several others.

I doubt if Antifa expected any fatalities, but I suspect they were thrilled there was one, especially since the woman killed was one of their own young innocents.

That’s the way agitprop works. Look for more of it.

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Perhaps you could come to understand PK’s motives better.

Fixed_Cross · August 17, 2017, 3:36pm

I really like that analysis.

So the person who died technically may have murdered himself.

James_S_Saint · August 17, 2017, 3:39pm

“Herself”, but she wasn’t a one of the Antifa violators, rather an innocent bystander.

And also the Mayor is guilty of 3rd degree manslaughter due to his command to forbid the police from preventing the violence. He is an actual Antifa collaborator.