Charlottesville Virginia Clash.

Peter, this thread is full of proof from actual live footage of the events being discussed by varying sources, it also presents photographs of various political personalities and government officials and their connections to the matters at hand. ANTIFA is also in Europe, destroying European countries as we speak to ensure the globalist agenda, it’s not a simple conspiracy in the USA government, this spans the globe and affects many European and non-European nations, hence globalism.

K: that is a lot of conspiracy theories wrapped into one little paragraph…
ok, so show me the proof… where would I look to find the 'TRUTH"?
your “truth”?

Kropotkin

Peter, where do you get your news? How many sources and mediums?

K: it doesn’t really matter… where would I go to find your “Truth”?

where would I look to become aware of all these conspiracies?

Kropotkin

Thank you Peter for being such a perfect example.

K: which reality am I being detached from?

how am I being dishonest?

how am I being disingenuous?

Kropotkin

Answer my questions first so I can understand where you are getting your understanding.

K: Ok, I’ll play… I almost never watch TV news… if it weren’t for sports,
I wouldn’t even own a TV set… the websites I go to, in no particular
order other then how I remember them… Redstate, realclearpolitics,
on rare occasion Drudge… 538, huffington post, fox news, espn and bleacher report,
think progress, astronomy picture of the day… love that site…cnn…
I am sure there are a couple of others, but I can’t recall them at the moment

I know you will find fault with my choices… go for it…

Kropotkin

More to the point, he is an objectivist. He just flits from one dogma to the next.

Like I used to.

Again, it’s not whether or not what he believes here is true, but that what he believes here is true.

It’s all about embodying [pyschologically] one or another rendition of this:

1] there is a “real me” that transcends contingency, chance and change
2] this “real me” is in sync with one or another understanding of “virtue”
3] “virtue” is embedded in one or another rendition of God, Humanism, ideology, nature. *

Or maybe he doesn’t call it virtue. Maybe he calls it, oh, I don’t know, nature?

Well, unless of course I’m wrong.

  • By the way, this particular “intellectual contraption” is my very latest [copy/paste] groot! :wink:

Oh, and you [Otto] seemed to have abandoned our exchange over on the KT Chimp thread.

This one:

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Okay, the subject I always focus the high beam on here is abortion.

Why?

1] it is a conflicting good that almost everyone is familiar with
2] it is a conflicting good that almost everyone has an opinion about
3] it revolves literally around life and death
4] it is the issue that, embedded in this…

1] I was raised in the belly of the working class beast. My family/community were very conservative. Abortion was a sin.
2] I was drafted into the Army and while on my “tour of duty” in Vietnam I happened upon politically radical folks who reconfigured my thinking about abortion. And God and lots of other things.
3] after I left the Army, I enrolled in college and became further involved in left wing politics. It was all the rage back then. I became a feminist. I married a feminist. I wholeheartedly embraced a woman’s right to choose.
4] then came the calamity with Mary and John. I loved them both but their engagement was foundering on the rocks that was Mary’s choice to abort their unborn baby.
5] back and forth we all went. I supported Mary but I could understand the points that John was making. I could understand the arguments being made on both sides. John was right from his side and Mary was right from hers.
6] I read William Barrett’s Irrational Man and came upon his conjectures regarding “rival goods”.
7] Then, over time, I abandoned an objectivist frame of mind that revolved around Marxism/feminism. Instead, I became more and more embedded in existentialism. And then as more years passed I became an advocate for moral nihilism.

…first propelled me in the general direction of this:

If I am always of the opinion that 1] my own values are rooted in dasein and 2] that there are no objective values “I” can reach, then every time I make one particular moral/political leap, I am admitting that I might have gone in the other direction…or that I might just as well have gone in the other direction. Then “I” begins to fracture and fragment to the point there is nothing able to actually keep it all together. At least not with respect to choosing sides morally and politically.

In other words, there are folks on both sides of the divide – the abortion wars – who construe their own moral/political narrative as anything but dysfunctional and flaky. On the contrary, they almost always perceive those who are not “one of us” on this [and every other issue] as the truly dysfunctional, flaky ones.

Now, if you were to confront these folks – folks for and against abortion – outside any particular clinic, how would you go about arguing that, with respect to the act shredding the life of the unborn, you see “describing human morality as dysfunctional or flaky” here “as no cause of alarm”?

Maybe I am just not understanding your point.
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Shall we just resume that here? Change the subject from abortion to race?

European ANTIFA is more militant and organized than the USA ANTIFA





ANTIFA always wear face coverings, in Europe full black outfits, but here they haven’t gotten the whole uniform together yet, well, not all of them.

Honestly, I need to check them out for I haven’t heard of many of them. It’s about understanding where your thoughts are coming from, not a critique. Thank you for answering my inquiries. I’ll see what they offer.

WendyDarling: Peter, where do you get your news? How many sources and mediums?"

K: Ok, I’ll play… I almost never watch TV news… if it weren’t for sports,
I wouldn’t even own a TV set… the websites I go to, in no particular
order other then how I remember them… Redstate, realclearpolitics,
on rare occasion Drudge… 538, huffington post, fox news, espn and bleacher report,
think progress, astronomy picture of the day… love that site…cnn…
I am sure there are a couple of others, but I can’t recall them at the moment

I know you will find fault with my choices… go for it…

Kropotkin
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Honestly, I need to check them out for I haven’t heard of many of them. It’s about understanding where your thoughts are coming from, not a critique. Thank you for answering my inquiries. I’ll see what they offer.
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K: in other words, you don’t have any sources you rely on otherwise, you would name them…
I find that very instructive… I seem to rely on far more resources then you do and yet,
you find me “detached from reality” and you have called me “disingenuous” and you called
me “dishonest” and yet, yet, I rely on many more sources then you do, even right wing
sites for example, Redstate and fox news and realclearpolitics…I use as resources…
and yet, I am still “detached from reality” which btw you haven’t shown us HOW, I am
“detached from reality”… how I am “disingenuous” or how I am “dishonest”…
in fact, you haven’t shown us anything yet, no evidence of any kind connecting the
picture in a previous post as being Antifa…just people in black outfits…
which btw is the dress code of many, many work places including my work…
I wear black pants and a black polo shirt every day as part of my work outfit and
I am in fact, wearing right now as I go to work shortly…

I have asked several questions and has yet haven’t seen a single answer from you
or from anybody…I have answer your questions, now answer mine…

Kropotkin

More importantly than all of this - who gives a shit?

Why is it bad if commie-fascist brainwashed morons go kill and get killed?

Why would we want there to not be war?

Because why would we want to live in peace with people as hypocritical as Peter Kropotkin?
You can’t live in peace with fascist collaborators and not also be a fascist collaborator.

So lets just acknowledge that it is war - that the Democrats have declared war on the US and on humanity-
and we, humans, will be glad to answer their call.

Bring it on.

I asked for your answers in good faith and took your answers in good faith but did not think your questions about finding out my “truth” were asked in good faith, so I didn’t believe you really wanted my answers which you have shown in your obnoxious manner of asking, your hateful tone, and facetiousness repeatedly, but since your hostility insists, they are as follows: all of YouTube’s live coverage/footage of news events by various commentary channels and individuals, CNN, CBSN, NBC, MSN.com, Yahoo.com, several TV streaming documentary channels, our local newspaper occasionally on the weekends (usually Sundays), also links that I find on ILP and other random sites, not much talk radio anymore though. :evilfun:

Now back to your negative whining and accusations, what were your questions that I have refused to answer?

What’s above right? Oh goodie, but this is going to take awhile for I owe Carleas my blood first, so you’ll have to get in line, but believe me, I can’t wait to go into depth about your questions, all the perfect examples you afford me on ILP for you are the perfect example.

Personally, I would like nothing more than to see the sjw’s and neonazis engage of an epic clash of destiny so that we would have never hear from either parties ever again.

American neo-nazis could learn a thing or two from European modern day national socialists who abandoned swastika usage decades ago. American neo-nazis and the Klu Klux Klan look like morons parading around that it is deeply embarrassing. They look like a bunch of inbred juvenile larping historical actors. Look at modern day Swedish national socialists, they look far more presentable in appearance publicly.

Of course a lot of American neo-nazis and klan members are full of F.B.I. informants and hired actors from the Southern Poverty Law Center also, there’s that to consider as well.

It will happen eventually one way or another. Like most western nations white European people have been fleeing the cities for rural areas about several decades now. The only white people that stay in cities nowadays are either people that are forced to because of work or the liberal delusionals. At some point white European people are going to run out of places to retreat to and once this happens conflict is inevitable as we become ethnic minorities.

No culture or ethnicity can survive balkanization and close proximity with others for very long.

The corporate neo-liberals have full control of media platforms like Instagram, Reddit, Facebook, Tumblr, and Twitter. In the future anti-establishment people are going to have to become more creative in the age of growing massive internet censorship. Thankfully Carleas hasn’t tried to censor us here which I’m very thankful. Hopefully he doesn’t change his mind on that.

So far unlike Europe, Russia, Canada, and Australia the United States doesn’t have thought crimes laws against Europeans that embrace white identity. So far it it doesn’t…that can change quickly overnight however.

In order to overcome adversity like I said, we need to be creative.

The United States is a military police state international finance oligarchy and plutocracy, it needs to be destroyed along with being rebuilt afterwards as it is currently a blight upon this world.

Peter Kropotkin is a waste of time as he relies very much everyday on his social propaganda matrix.