a new understanding of today, time and space.

in thinking about knowledge, one is struck by an idea…

Knowledge is about relations, relationships…
for example, take a tree…
look at that tree… can you make any sense of,
or get knowledge of that tree by just looking at it…
No, you have to understand the relationships that the tree
has… for example, what is the relationship between the tree
branches and the trunk of the tree? or the relationship between
the ground the tree sits upon and the tree leaves? Knowing the
relationship between the various aspects of the tree and other aspects,
we can have knowledge about the tree…the tree is a living thing that connects
with the air, earth, water and the relationship that the tree has with air is…
and the relationship the tree has with the earth is… and the relationship
the tree has with water is…and we gain knowledge of the tree by its
relationships with other matter…you cannot understand the human being
without understanding our relationships with other matter…

set 5 people in a room… not what is the relationship between them?
the understanding of the relationship between those 5 people tells us
information/knowledge about those 5 people… they could be 5 random
people in which we need to better understand the relationship
between the 5 to have knowledge about them… but if the 5 people
are related, say a family, then we have knowledge about those 5 people…

Knowledge/information is about the relationship between things…
take gravity for example, we don’t understand its relationships to
the other forces, thus we lack knowledge/information about gravity…
this information/knowledge is related to our senses…
we use our senses to make connections between objects
and their relationships… as we lack the senses to
understanding the various relationships of gravity, we
can’t make any connection between gravity and the other forces…
once we have the senses to fully grasp the relationship between
gravity and the other forces, we will have knowledge/information about
gravity…tools such as the telescope are a means of extending our
senses to include those details that we cannot see with
our basic senses, vision, hearing, smell, touch, taste…
tools extend our senses to help us understand the relationships
of things like gravity and the human being and space and the earth and…

mathematics is simply a tool designed to help us understand
the relationship between numbers…and the relationship between
objects and us…and objects and other objects…

Knowledge/information is simply about finding out about the
the relationships between objects
as we extend our tools/senses, we shall be able to increase
our knowledge/information about the universe…
as long as we continue to make connections about relationships
between objects and us…

Kropotkin

the question of equality is a difficult one…

it is argued that those who benefit economically are ones,
who are superior to those who don’t… in other words, bill gates
has his billions because he is in some fashion, superior to me or to most people…

yet this information is slanted a certain way to justify wealth…
for example, it assumes that wealth is the creation of some sort
of superiority of some people over other people…
yet, bill gates for example, might be a terrible teacher,
and thus others have superiority over him in this field…
and we applaud those who can teach, but we don’t pay them, what
we give to gates… this superiority is limited to certain aspects…
everyone has superiority of some sort over everyone else…
that in reality means, because some have superiority in some area’s
but not in all area’s, that we are equal, because in some areas we
have someone who is superior to us and in other area’s, they are not equal…

so, someone might be able to run a 4.30 mile whereas my best was 4.53,
so they are superior to me in running the mile, where as in cross-country, I might be better,
where my best at crystal springs cross country course was 16.24 and their
best was 16.30… or I am able to do math better or play chess better…
this idea that we are in some areas better then others and worse then
others in different area’s is what creates equality…not the superiority in
one area, but in the mixing and maxing of being better in one area
and in some area’s of being worse… we are equal because in which area do
we decide is most important? is my being better in one area make me
superior? or is your superiority in another area make you better?

Herein lies equality because we cannot decide or be able to choose
what area’s of superiority really makes us superior or be worse off…

we are equal because we are different in our area’s of competence
and different in our area’s of not so competent…and that makes
us equal… I am equal to bill gates because I can do things he can’t
and he can do things I can’t and how do we choose which things are the
most important things to do?

this means we have not only political equality but economic equality…
for the things I can do are different then you and the things you can do
are different then me… the question becomes, how do you judge such things?
How do you decide which superiority is worth 1 million dollars a year
and which superiority is worth 30 thousand a year? One might say, the
creation of profit is the judge of which amount one might get…
this however leaves a major problem… which is, profit is nihilism
because it isn’t about values, but about a thing, money is not a value,
but a thing… creating profit doesn’t involve values like love or justice
or hope, in fact, profit denies values because they don’t increase profit…
being a just person or a person who loves won’t improve your profit margin…
in fact, it will lower your profit margin and thus business can only promote
profit and not values… thus negating those values and that is nihilism…
so, is bill gates a good person, a kind person, a person who loves?
it doesn’t matter because his wealth isn’t predicated on those values…
in fact, he will make greater profit if he isn’t kind or a good person
because those values will harm his profit margin… so allowing
the profit margin to determine the worth a person is to negate
any values they have like love or justice or honor because there is no
profit in those values…it is by understanding that profit or money,
doesn’t determine a person worth, tells us that we are in fact, equal…

Kropotkin

The idea that the part is the whole, and the whole is the part is given by monads.

the questions I have asked have been meant to give you, the reader,
questions to ask yourself…to allow you to think about or understand
what your questions are about…

when a person, for the sake of understanding and research,
pulls a rose out of the ground and then they study the rose…
by the very fact of pulling the rose out of the ground,
you kill the rose, that you are studying, and your understanding
is something that is now dead…

we do the same thing, when we pull random and isolated thoughts
out of context and study them…the very attempt to isolate a thought
is to kill that thought…for our thoughts exist in context with other thoughts
and with other idea’s… thoughts don’t exist individually, by themselves,
they exist within a larger context of other thoughts and other idea’s…

so I brought up property yesterday… this idea does not exist
in isolation and by itself… it exists within context of other ideas and other
thoughts and we have to approach it within the context of other idea’s and thoughts…

what is the value of having possessions? land and houses and TV sets and soft
comfy couches…what value to we gain from them?

is it more to show/prove that we are wealthy enough to afford them?
or do we another purpose to these material goods?

the relationship of values to possessions is just another example
of our failure to have the courage of an attack on our convictions,
and not believe to we have the courage of our convictions…

property is just another assumed conviction we don’t challenge or
think about… along with ism’s like capitalism and democracy
and wealth and dozens of other convictions we blindly accept without
any thought to or understanding of…

I cannot speak of convictions you fail to understand and blindly accept,
because they are your convictions, not mine…

it is not enough to have the courage of our convictions,
we must have the courage for an attack on our convictions…
Nietzsche…

Kropotkin

to bring up one minor point, the idea of property
and justice… if some have a lot of property and many have
none, how is the just? justice is a theory of equality and
if many don’t have property, we can be said not to have justice
in our society…

so property violates our idea of justice…
which idea takes precedence?

property or justice?

Kropotkin

the real point and function of philosophy is
relationships…what is the relationship between,
say giving money to a homeless person and the overall
concept of charity…or buying a house and the overall
concept of property…what is justice and its relationship to
the idea of being human? our individual actions against
the overall idea’s… how can I be individually just
and the overall society idea/actions of being just…

look at a tree and then understand that tree’s relationship
with us, with the environment, with the surrounding area,
with other tree’s, with the resources of water and land and air,
you can trace one single tree and its relationship with all these
things and have a real understanding of tree’s, the environment,
of systems, of the value of resources… understanding
relationships can give us this and much more…

that is the value of relationships and of philosophy which
is one way to tracing those relationships and what it means, its value…
science does the same thing but science only reports facts and science
doesn’t tell us the value of such a relationship…what does it mean
that the tree has this relationship with the environment, for example,
what does that mean? what is its value for us? that is philosophy…
understanding relationships…

Kropotkin

I have defined freedom as a having choices and our choices
are limited, so we have a limited freedom…

Justice is an act of equality…for there to be justice,
the justice system must treat everyone equally…
Justice must be truly blind for there to be real justice…

can there be freedom without justice?
NO, for freedom needs justice to be freedom…

freedom is choices… if by acts of injustice, we are denied our equality, if
we are denied our choices, we are not free…injustice is about taking away
choices…which means we are not free…

so for a system, such as our political system to function,
we must not only have freedom, but freedom is dependent
on having justice and equality…because we have less choices
without justice and without equality…

so the unjust acts of the GOP in voter suppression is damaging
not only justice, but our freedom…because it reduces choices…

to have a free society, we must have a just society, we must
have an equal society…without justice, there is no freedom…

Kropotkin

a man might declare, “I want to be free” but without
a just and equal society, personal freedom is not possible…
for acts of injustice by the society take away or limit your already
limited freedom…now one fallacy is by taking away other people rights,
you increase your rights, but freedom and justice and equality doesn’t work like that…
because of the interconnectedness of society, you can’t limit the damage from
taking away rights from one segment of society because it affects the other segments
of society…recall the thinking about systems… anything that affects one
part of the system, pushes on the other parts of the system…take your car…
if the electrical system is damaged, it affects the other parts of the car system…
or if your carb is damaged, it will affect how your car runs or doesn’t run, as the
case may be… damaging part of the political system or the social system, damages
all parts of the systems… that is how systems work…

so if you want personal freedom, you need a system that has justice and a system
that has equality in it…but the more interesting aspect is this…
if you want a better system, one that works, you must begin with the parts,
that is, with you…a system only works as well as its parts and as a part of
a system, the political system and part of the cultural system and as part
of the social system and as part of the economic system and as part of the…
you must work on your aspect of those systems…if you want a more moral society,
then become more moral yourself…if you want a kinder, more gentler system,
then become kinder and more gentler…the system can only be what you put
into it… in other words, garbage in… garbage out…the problem has been,
it is the other guys fault for the system being bad, not my fault… but if you don’t
work on being a better person, then it is your fault because the system is part of us
and we are part of the system…the improvement, the betterment of a system,
of a society, lies with the improvement and betterment of ourselves…

better human beings make a better human society…
and therein lies the problem today… we aren’t better human beings
and it shows in the society today…

Kropotkin

i dont make nor do i have any influence on rules and policies of this shit land, dont blame this on me.

blame this on the cuckservatives demofags and libtards who rule us all with their pens and papers.

K: if you are part of a system, any system, and the system is not correctly working,
not functional, then you are part of the problem…and therein lies part of the problem…
the need to escape responsibility for a dysfunctional system…oh, its not my fault,
its the other guy fault we have a dysfunctional system… it is never MY fault…
is the modern cry of denying responsibility…leading all the way to a president
for whom it is never his fault for anything going wrong… taking credit for success,
even when it wasn’t his actions that lead to success, to refusing responsibility for
anything gone wrong…refusing responsibility is the modern blame game and
part of the reason for our system’s problems…

I am in part, as much as anyone, for our systems continued failure as you
are part of that failure…until we learn to take responsibility for our actions,
or inactions as the case may be, we are going to continue to fail…

it is childlike to refuse to accept responsibility… that is what children do…
its not my fault says the child who just broke the vase on the table…
accepting responsibility for our actions is being an adult and we need more of that…
being adult…I too have played the, its not my fault game and that doesn’t
lead to a more successful person or a situation, system…

you see the dysfunctional situation in Washington DC and part of that lies
in the fact that no one takes responsibility for it… who is going to be an adult
there? as far as I can tell, no one…and therein lies the problem…

Kropotkin

You are wrong, sooo wrong.

I am not of this world, they are not me and I am not of them.

It is a conspiracy against me,

Back when I was politically correct, i would try to advocate peace and get on the news to create better world, But whenever i got on the news they censored me and cut the livestream. It is a conspiracy against me You are not allowed to talk unless you are a slave automaton of the “agenda”.
all news is controlled like george orwell 1984. this is a freedomless era of sheep, cucks, and the delusional.

we have no say what happens in washington dc, i did not vote for trump or hillary, I tried my best to stop the masses of mindless idiots from voting for them, but it was no use. it is as impossible to stop a moving train by standing in front of it as it is stop a mass of idiots.

Peter Kropotkin: better human beings make a better human society…
and therein lies the problem today… we aren’t better human beings
and it shows in the society today…

K: and here we ask ourselves what makes a “better” human being?

in terms of systems, it is simply this, that which makes the system
be more ordered and that which makes the system less ordered is
bad, not good… it is in terms of creating order in a system that
we must understand good versus evil…but does that mean
we “always” look to create order in any system? No, we must allow
dissent and disorder in any system…the question becomes,
how much disorder can we allow in the system?

for example, the resist movement today against 45…
this is clearly a movement creating disorder and yet, yet
it is quite necessary and needed…sometimes the path to an
ordered society lies in disorder…the route of 45 has lead to
an even greater disorder in society…he has created a very disorder
society and a very unjust and unequal society… by doing so, he has
limited freedom for all us…so we must protest even if it means
a disordered society because in the end, we are fighting for a just
and equal society whereas he is not…and that makes all the difference
in the world…disorder to create a more just society, a more equal society
is the path to a society that is more ordered… for a society that is ordered
must be just and equal and free and 45 opposes a just and equal and free society…
so we must, must dissent and protest even at the cost of creating more disorder
in society…because in the end, 45 disorder is far greater and more damaging
then our disorder and dissent…we are the lessor of two evils and hope to return
to an ordered society whereas 45 doesn’t care about an ordered society…
this is the difference between the resist movement and 45…
we want a return to an ordered society and he doesn’t…

Kropotkin

let us look at one aspect of system…

does a system require metaphysical aspects to it?

In other words, do we need god to make a system work?

No, not at all…having order in a system has nothing to do with god…
we can look at a system and think about it, imagine it, work with it,
without any recourse to a metaphysical notion…

we can begin and continue any explanation of a system, be it a natural, mechanical and
biological and never have recourse to any metaphysical need for an explanation of
or about a system…

this is important because it means we don’t need to need to include
god or any other metaphysical explanation in our understanding of any
system…we just need to understand the relationship of a system
within itself and a system relations with other systems…a understanding
of relationships have no need to include god or any metaphysical explanation
of the universe, man or government, economics, etc…all of which are systems…

Kropotkin

No shit, this is what I’ve been saying since 5 years ago, with my DNA machine thing, but as usual, society ignores me and then eventually catches up to me and steals my old ideas and markets them as their own.

That’s very simplistic view dude. Again, society lags behind me, steals all of my ideas, and lets random politicians be leaders instead of me, half-assing my ideas and not fully understanding or implementing my ideas, then wonders why its a shit world. Meanwhile I get no credit recognition or fame for any of my hard work.

Satyr explains chaos very well. The difference between CHAOS and ORDER is CHAOS is a system which is so convoluted that you cannot reliably predict the outcome using conventional algorithms. Order refers to a predictable, simplified system.

CHAOS IS NOT INHERENTLY EVIL, ORDER IS NOT INHERENTLY GOOD. REMEMBER THAT. If we have an order where the goal is to give ourselves shitty food, that’s not good is it. Order means evil done more efficiently, or good done more efficiently. Chaos means its a random grab bag, you get a 50/50 chance of good or evil. Order means your guaranteed to get whatever, whether or not it is good or evil.

But as usual society will lag behind me, steal my idea then market it as if it was one of their own.

as I continue my research into 17 century philosophy,
one of the main questions asked was this, how do we
know what we know? How is knowledge possible and what
are the limits of this knowledge? Descartes is all about this…
to make knowledge certain, was one of the goals of the 17 century…

and yet, this flies into the face of being human…

we exist in a state of being without knowledge all the time…
we can never have any knowledge of the future, this uncertainty
drives many… we fear the future because we aren’t certain about
future…we are afraid, not knowing, not being certain…

we cannot have knowledge about the future, we cannot be certain…

if life has three parts, then we have no knowledge about one part, the
future… but what about the past? can we be certain about our knowledge
about the past? I have “knowledge” about the past, about people, places, events
times, and in talking to my sister about my “knowledge” about the past, I have learned
I am often wrong and sometimes drastically wrong about my “knowledge” about
people, places, events and times…

for example, I would have bet the family fortune that my mom grew up on a farm,
for that was my knowledge about my mom’s past and yet, when talking to my mom,
I learned she never lived on a farm… so where the hell did I get the idea, “knowledge”
that she grew up on a farm? my knowledge about my past is shaky at best,
I really can’t be certain about anything that did exist, my knowledge about,
the past, I can’t trust…I may just as wrong about the past as I am about my mom
growing up on a farm… I am uncertain about my information about my past…
because my “knowledge” about my past may be misremembered or misinterpreted
or just plain forgotten… I wouldn’t be the first person in history to rewrite
my history to match some idea or ideal about myself…and this is why we
cannot trust our own personal history… we cannot be certain…

so we have the past be in doubt as well as the future…

that leaves us the present and the present has its problems…

I may think I have a perfect and wonderful marriage and
yet, my wife may not think so and she is planning on leaving me for
a circus clown… I cannot be any more certain about the present
then I am about the future or the past…

we exist in doubt and uncertainty and we lack the knowledge
to dispel that doubt and uncertainty… we cannot make knowledge
certain despite Descartes attempt…

so we do we do in the face of this uncertainty about our knowledge?

we live with it, just as we always have… we cannot be certain about
our knowledge of ourselves or of the universe…for facts can change,
which changes our knowledge of the universe. So we can never be sure
about our knowledge of the universe. Our pursuit in finding certainty
of our knowledge is doomed to failure and that is alright…
we can have knowledge, but we must assume that the knowledge we
have of the universe is flawed and uncertain…

this leads us to the idea that we must embrace uncertainty
and doubt and that we can’t be certain about anything and
say, that is ok…

doubt, uncertainty, chance, probability, chaos, these are the real
options in life, in the universe…

our attempts at certainty and fixed knowledge and the removal of
doubt is just our vain attempts to find certainty in an uncertain
universe…the ism’s and ideologies and paradigms and attempts
at human systems are all an attempt to create certainty in our lives…

Kropotkin

human beings are social creatures, we are animals that go about in packs…
look at how we house ourselves… we don’t live, for the most part, apart
from each other, no, we live in houses very close to each other…and we live
in condo’s and apartments in which we live in very close proximity to each other…
in my condo, my neighbor’s door is about 9 feet from me…and that is farther
apart then some places I’ve seen…

we live close to each other and we spend our days in constant contact
with other humans… we lunch with each other and go out at night with
each other and we go to bars to mingle with each other…
in fact it isn’t healthy for humans to isolate themselves from other humans,
to maintain our mental health, we must stay in contact with other humans…

and our social structure is built to keep humans in contact with each other…
we have bars and shopping malls and resorts and restaurants
and events like musical and sporting events where we hang with 20 thousand of
our best friends…

our political structure is about the contact we have with people…
a democracy is about people deciding their fate together… together
is the key word…

the reality is, we are but a step away from the bee’s and ants in their social structure…

not only must our political structure mirror our social structure but our economic
structure must mirror our social structure…and capitalism doesn’t mirror
our social structure… it is too individualist… every man for himself is not
the way or means of the human being… we sink or swim together as a species
and our economics must reflect that… that is why communism as a economic
system is a better fit for human beings than capitalism…and that is why democracy
is a better fit for human beings then a dictatorship or any top down political structure…
our political and economic structure must, must reflect the reality that is the human being…
and we are a social, pack animals that must operate within and as a group…

the lone wolf idea of the human being is simply a myth and sometimes, sometimes
I admit that the social aspect of the human experience gets a little tiring and that
is when the lone wolf idea has appeal but the reality is, we exist as the founding fathers
said, of the people, for the people, by the people and this is just more then a political
expression… it is a motto for all human beings… we exist of the people and we exist
for the people and we exist by the people… for human beings, there can be no other way…
it has been said that the worst fate is to die alone and that in a nutshell is the human
experience…we live together and we die together and we must coexist… together

and social, communal experiences are what define the human being and our
political and economic structures must reflect that and that is social and
communal social structures like communism and socialism
are the answers to the question as to, what political and economic structure
must human beings have…

Kropotkin

so in light of what I have said about systems and what I have
stated about human beings being social creatures, we can, perhaps,
now understand the danger of IQ45 has done as president…
he has sacrificed the health and welfare of people by undermining
Obamacare and he has done it in the name of money…

what greater crime can be done? putting money over people’s lives…
he has also damaged the social, political and economic structure,
the very systems we humans, as social creatures need, he has damaged those
social structures in ways that should horrify any thinking, feeling person…

look at Puerto Rico and see what damage has been done and what
little the U.S and IQ45 has done to repair that part of the United States…
and all in the name of saving money…to have money as being
the decider of people’s fate is nihilism… we are social creatures
and we as social creatures have, as part of the human experience,
emotions and part of our emotions is empathy…and where is the empathy
for the citizens of Puerto Rico from IQ45 and the GOP…do they lack
this basic human emotion for our fellow human creatures?

this idea that we are social creatures, that we cannot exist alone,
that we must, MUST have our fellow human beings to survive and to
flourish and become something better then ourselves…must drive
all our idea’s about our social and economic and political structures
and it must drive our responses to our fellow human beings…
we are connected to other human beings, whether we admit it or not,
we are the same regardless of race, creed, color, nationality…

to ignore our fellow human beings is to ignore the fact that we are
are social creatures…and we must, must connect with our fellow human
beings to not only survive but to maintain our humanness…
recall that humans that go without contact with other human beings,
like in solitary confinement have mental issues…
and babies that don’t have physical contact with other human beings, die…
to be a human being is to be part of and with and of people…
of the people, for the people and by the people…
every action we take must be with this thought in mind…
we are social, pack animals and we must our decisions with
this in mind…

Kropotkin

as I read what I wrote, my thinking is clearly in line with the
English moralist of the 18 century, like Shaftesbury and Hutcheson
and Butler but without the belief in god…it is interesting that
philosophy gets recycled over and over again and old wine gets
pored into new skin…

Kropotkin

butler and Shaftesbury were opposed to Hobbes idea that the beginning
of philosophy is in man’s self interest… self love and egotism is the
beginning of philosophy for Hobbes… we act in our own self interest
but, but this is more of a theoretical idea instead of a practical idea…
for we have plenty of examples including ourselves as parents and our
parents having to sacrifice for us and we for our children…
we see examples of people acting in the best interest of others
instead of themselves from the Priest? or perhaps it was a Rabbi,
not sure, anyway of volunteering to take the place of a person to
be killed in the death camps of Nazi Germany…to task of
helping others even to the point of our determent…
plain old human kindness to others is one example of
how self love, self egotism is not the only path for human beings…

we must place self love, egotism and self sacrifice and love of others
as part of, part of the human experience…not as the whole thing…

at different times in our lives, in our experiences, in our daily life,
we must act upon and know the difference between self egotism
and the acting upon the self sacrifice and love of others…

we are social creatures and this shows when we act for others,
instead of our own personal interest…

this self sacrifice and self love is also a part of, part of being
human…it is in our experiences and our personal knowledge
that determines if we understand the difference between the times
we must act selfishly and the times we must act for the betterment
of others…the times, the experience at the time, the moment determines
if we need to be selfish or altruist and we need to become more
aware of that difference when it is time to be selfish or altruistic…

as we are social creatures, we need to become more altruistic
because we can only succeed if our pack, our species, our group succeeds…
we cannot succeed alone and altruism is one path for our group, our
social group of human beings to succeed…

Kropotkin

the above post shows us the failure of believing that
one reason is the driving reason for our beliefs/ thoughts/behavior…
for example, I pointed out Hobbes and his belief that we are driving
primarily by egotism…we make all our calculations based on
our egotism, what is best for me? the Buddha thought that
the basis of life was suffering and the Declaration of Independence
was about “life, liberty and THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS” with the
pursuit of happiness being the goal everyone thinks of…
I spend my days pursuing MY happiness and screw everyone else…
the Greeks thought that it was knowledge that drove people…
and the medieval man thought it was the pursuit of god that drove
people…

the failure here is not the idea’s but the idea that it is ONE sole reason
that drives us… we are a complicated bunch and what motivates us
is different for each of us, but also what motivates us changes, not only
over the years but over the year, month and yes, even the day…

situational ethics is not just for breakfast anymore…

we change depending on our situation…and what drives us changes
depending on the situation…we might be driven by knowledge or suffering
or egotism or love or our happiness, again depending…the thing about
being human is we cannot react to every situation the same…
we must respond differently to every situation…

so to understand the animal called a human being…
we must understand that there is no one driving force
in our lives like suffering or the search for knowledge or
the pursuit of happiness… but we are a mixture of each
depending upon the situation…

Kropotkin