True Grit Philosophers ... Where are they?

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

They are willing to leave the comfort of mass-consensus, are self-reliant, self-confident and determined to break trail into unexplored territory. They seek a better way to live and seek to discover new possibilities waiting to be realized.

True Grit Philosophers ... Where are they?

Stuck in a quagmire of words?

[James S Saint]

Where are they?

Invisible to the blind.

[URUZ]

They are willing to leave the comfort of mass-consensus, are self-reliant, self-confident and determined to break trail into unexplored territory. They seek a better way to live and seek to discover new possibilities waiting to be realized.

True Grit Philosophers ... Where are they?

I am here.

[URUZ]

I'll give you the true shit, but only if you deserve it.

[URUZ]

It is time.


The time for war.

For ideas.

[URUZ]

For the ur-gods.


Absolute grit. Earth-love.


Respect

[encode_decode]

They are willing to leave the comfort of mass-consensus, are self-reliant, self-confident and determined to break trail into unexplored territory. They seek a better way to live and seek to discover new possibilities waiting to be realized.

True Grit Philosophers ... Where are they?

Stuck in a quagmire of words?

I think what needs to happen first is that your usage of "true grit" needs to be defined . . .

From what I can determine and this is a copy and paste:

Being a gritty person means that the one tends to stick to their goals despite numerous issues, problems, setbacks and failures. The person has firmness of mind and unyielding courage. The synonyms of true grit are: fortitude. determination.

In this case there seems to be a few on ILP

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

I think what needs to happen first is that your usage of "true grit" needs to be defined . . .

Aaron ... your 'warm' post is appreciated.

Perhaps the 'definition/intention' will emerge from the comments ... the words in the OP title just popped into my head.

First comment ...

invisible to the blind

somewhat cryptic ... vision infers "intellect" ... whereas feeling engages the "eyes of the heart"

Absolute grit. Earth-love

The word 'grit' at times has an "earthy" connotation ... a down and dirty ... get your hands dirty ... kind of intention.

The synonyms of true grit are: fortitude. determination.

Fortitude and determination are quite capable of leading one further and further down a dead end street.

Move from the abstract to the concrete (personal experience) ... back to the abstract ... Moreno

IMHO ... lots and lots of "abstract" shared on ILP ... not much personal experience in support of the abstract thoughts ... absence of grit?

[encode_decode]

I think what needs to happen first is that your usage of "true grit" needs to be defined . . .

Aaron ... your 'warm' post is appreciated.

I could have been warmer about it but it was early in the morning for me.



A smile should fix it.

[Ultimate Philosophy 1001]

i am true grit.

if i was legally allowed to kill 20 people, i would do it and i wouldnt even cry.
message to police: this is not a thread, i will not kill 20 people, it is illegal and i dont want to go to prison. i only said if it was legal.

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

I think what needs to happen first is that your usage of "true grit" needs to be defined . . .

Aaron ... your 'warm' post is appreciated.

I could have been warmer about it but it was early in the morning for me.



A smile should fix it.

Aaron ... read the words quoted below this morning ... seem to echo our e-exchange ... seem to embody a quasi universal reality?

We don’t always look good, but we are. Mostly we’re frustrated precisely because we cannot (for reasons of circumstance, wound, and sensitivity) pour out our goodness as we would like nor embrace the world and those around us with the warmth that’s in us. We go through life looking for a warm place to show who we are and mostly don’t find it. We’re not so much bad as frustrated. We’re more lovely than we dare imagine.

[WendyDarling]

We don’t always look good, but we are. Mostly we’re frustrated precisely because we cannot (for reasons of circumstance, wound, and sensitivity) pour out our goodness as we would like nor embrace the world and those around us with the warmth that’s in us. We go through life looking for a warm place to show who we are and mostly don’t find it. We’re not so much bad as frustrated. We’re more lovely than we dare imagine.

Where'd that quote come from? To add and to sum up, it's easier to be cold than to be warm. When everyone's cold most of the time, finding a warm spot will be frustrating, but why not take the more difficult route and become a spot of warmth rather than waiting to perchance upon it?

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

We don’t always look good, but we are. Mostly we’re frustrated precisely because we cannot (for reasons of circumstance, wound, and sensitivity) pour out our goodness as we would like nor embrace the world and those around us with the warmth that’s in us. We go through life looking for a warm place to show who we are and mostly don’t find it. We’re not so much bad as frustrated. We’re more lovely than we dare imagine.

Where'd that quote come from? To add and to sum up, it's easier to be cold than to be warm. When everyone's cold most of the time, finding a warm spot will be frustrating, but why not take the more difficult route and become a spot of warmth rather than waiting to perchance upon it?

Wendy ... thanks for adding some "warmth" to the OP.

The quote is from Ron ... I subscribe to his spiritual commentaries.

A True Grit Philosopher is ...

a) Intelligent ... yet humble.

b) Down to earth ... in both thoughts and deeds.

c) Determined ... yet not obsessive.

d) Self confident enough to be "warm" ... despite being mocked and persecuted.

e) Courageous enough to break new trails ... yet not break the law.

f) Insert here

[Jakob]

The grit of philosophy is that it is law giving.
Any so called philosophy that does not do that, destroy and set laws, is just masturbation.

[Ultimate Philosophy 1001]

The grit of philosophy is that it is law giving.
Any so called philosophy that does not do that, destroy and set laws, is just masturbation.

True philosophy questions all the so-called laws.

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

The grit of philosophy is that it is law giving.
Any so called philosophy that does not do that, destroy and set laws, is just masturbation.

Yes!!

Philosophers assumed full authority and responsibility for the health and welfare of the planet and all life forms inhabiting the planet with the genesis of the age of enlightenment ... circa mid 17th century. Philosophers were compelled to share such authority and responsibility with theologians for the previous couple of millennia.

Authority and responsibility infers accountability.

Have philosophers ever been held accountable for their failings? Popular philosophers have certainly been glorified for their perceived successes.

Have any group of top leaders been held accountable for their failings? Popular leaders have certainly been glorified for their perceived successes.

[URUZ]

The grit of philosophy is that it is law giving.
Any so called philosophy that does not do that, destroy and set laws, is just masturbation.

True philosophy questions all the so-called laws.

[Arcturus Descending]

I think what needs to happen first is that your usage of "true grit" needs to be defined . . .

Aaron ... your 'warm' post is appreciated.

I could have been warmer about it but it was early in the morning for me.



A smile should fix it.

...and don't forget to close that window.

[encode_decode]

...and don't forget to close that window.

I wont forget, I promise . . .

[Arcturus Descending]

PST

A True Grit Philosopher is ...

a) Intelligent ... yet humble.

b) Down to earth ... in both thoughts and deeds.

c) Determined ... yet not obsessive.

d) Self confident enough to be "warm" ... despite being mocked and persecuted.

e) Courageous enough to break new trails ... yet not break the law.

f) Insert here

lol I suppose then that you might have called John Wayne a true grit philosopher though he is gone to that Death Valley.

I cannot recall any at the moment but I have a sneaky suspicion and intuition that some great philosophers did actually break the law.
How would one seek *real* wisdom and truth without having to defy and break unjust absurd laws of the times at times?
I do not go along with (e).

[Arcturus Descending]

...and don't forget to close that window.

I wont forget, I promise . . .

Do not promise. Just do it!
LOL

[encode_decode]

Do not promise. Just do it!
LOL

OK

[pilgrim-seeker_tom]

I cannot recall any at the moment but I have a sneaky suspicion and intuition that some great philosophers did actually break the law.

Socrates ??

In buttoning up a shirt if the first button is not in the right hole none of the other buttons align properly.

[derleydoo]

Did Socrates break any Laws?

EDIT: I did upload a video with this post. Unfortunately, it linked directly to a fb page.