Give me a specific situation. I have the option of doing this, but I don’t. I don’t try to find those people and engage with them. So what is a specific situation with protester at Huntsville. How do I meet them? Do they stop me in the street? There are hundreds or thousands of issues and arguments related to capital punishment. Can you give me some kind of concrete scenario revolving around a specific argument? I am willing to hallucinate that I would spend time instructing some Huntville protester for a thought experiment, but you are also asking me to choose out of mass of different arguments some random one to demonstrate my ideas about logic. And I am not sure why?
Otherwise I am just making shit up, even if I am specific.
And by the way, I have nowhere said whatever I say to them would be effective, let alone end the conflict, so I don’t understand why you are asking me to do this.
It seems like a set up. I present what I say. Then you say ‘oh, they won’t understand that.’ Or ‘but they still have conflicting values’
and to that all I can say is '‘Yeah, duh.’
So, why are you asking me to instruct these protesters about logic
and why don’t you instruct them about dasein and contraptions?
Needless repetition.
If anyone here is saying that conflicting goods go away when we clean up language, have at them.
Fuck yeah. That’s one of the reasons I would not engage them. They’d scratch their heads at dasein and contraptions also. So what? You let me know what I say ‘all the people need are some lessons in logic and conflicting goods disappear’ or ‘a good approach to Huntsville is teaching them about logic in arguments’ or whatever strawman position you seem to be attritubing to me.
Why should I apply rationalism to conflicts? what position are you hallucinating that I have? Have I asserted this would be a good thing? Not in my memeory
Behind the curtain. It was right there in the posts I quoted. You responded to a post to Faust I made.
and Ironically elsewhere You asked for a specific example when you do the kind of thing you did in relation to my post to Faust. So, following YOUR request I pointed out the example.
Now you shift the context using an inappropriate metaphor about revealing what is behind the curtain.
And notice how you do not respond. You ask for an example. I give one. Now you ignore the example and blame me for focusing on you. Why did you enter a discussion between me and Faust about you?
The post that you quoted was my response to Faust. Right?
That post had a purpose dealing with you and a confusion he seemed to have. Right?
I explained my sense of what was going on. YOu quoted me doing that.
that interchange was not about capital punishment and it is in thread not about capital punishment.
It was not the point of the exchange.
but you will never admit that.
Its a simple thing. You responded to my post to Faust as if I was solving some OTHER issue. I pointed this out. If you can’t see it, go through the posts again.
I get blamed if I do what you ask.
I get blamed for not solving problems I never claimed to have solved.
I get blamed for executions because in a philosophy forum I focused on certain issues and people are still being executed, while the one blaming me focused on philosophical issues and people are still getting executed.
I get blamed because my explanations would have people shaking their heads at Huntville by someone using arguments that would have poeple shaking their heads at Huntville.
I am asked to give a specific example - I actually already had when asked - of a pattern of behavior. I give a new example,s ince I was provided with one in this thread and then I get blamed for focusing on you.
I respond to anohter poster about an issue he had and get told by you, a third poster, that my post to him was not on the topic it should have been and failed to solve your problem.
I think we have hijacked Faust’s thread enough. Feel free to pm me or bring this up elsewhere if you are confused by any of your behavior as much as I am.
I will leave this thread or at least the dialogue with you in it. Probably similar stuff will arise elsewhere.