I believe I have answered the above.
Note conventionally and scientifically, I am not saying “there is no such system until it is discovered by one perceiving mind”.
My take would be, it is possible [empirically] for such a system to exists.
The solar system is possible [empirically] to exists because the claim is made upon empirically possible objects and these can be empirically verified upon available evidence.
There is another higher philosophical perspective re ‘Is there a sound if a tree falls in a forest and there are no humans around’. That is a different issue from the above.
- Some claim they believe it to be true that those laws developed at the beginning of the formation of the universe. If there were no scientific laws before humans appeared on earth, how did the universe form? What could have been the mechanism if scientific laws didn’t exist? I read some time ago that we haven’t yet discovered a lot of the universe because light hasn’t had time to reach us yet since its beginning. This seems to presuppose the preexistent truth of scientific laws doesn’t it?
Would you please limit your next post to answering these specific questions for the sake of forward-moving discussion?
The universe was formed and is still forming based on the human-justified Theory of the Big Bang which is merely a speculative and is an untestable theory.
You cannot presume there are certain existing scientific laws before they are discovered by human scientists.
What is scientific is conditioned upon the existence of human producing those scientific laws.
Therefore if no humans, there are no scientific laws. Note Kant has argued strongly for this point.
There is no way humans will ever know the very beginning or the first cause. What we end up with is an infinite regression.
At Wittgenstein stated;
‘Whereof one cannot speak thereof one must be silent’
Therefore one must resolve to shut-up on this matter since there is nothing to speak of.
However theists and others cannot resist being silent, but due to subliminal psychological impulses jumped to conclusion there is something, a first cause, i.e. God without any logical and sound justifications for it.
The consequences of this psychological impulse is so desperate within SOME theists that they will not hesitate to kill to defend and maintain their secured psychological status. In addition there a whole range of evil and violent acts associated with theism by SOME theists.