Bru that’s not even sundown. It’s in fact nine o clock in the morning when everyone realises it from tme to time.
If not every day.
Same to Derley. A little darker would be good.
I want to normalise world peace.
Let’s put this in the shadow and see how it looks.
The shadow side of world PeAce.
☆♡ So hey?
Jakob: Same to Derley. A little darker would be good.
Imagine. You are a lifelong fan of FN.
You turn up at a Philosophy Forum and your attention is drawn to the statement: I’ve returned to Jung, because he’s right.
So you decide to study Jung. Because he is right.
And Jung says: Zarathustra is more for Nietzsche than a poetic figure; he is an involuntary confession. Nietzsche also had lost himself in the darkness of a life that turned it’s back upon God and Christianity, and that is why the revealer and enlightener came to him as the speaking fountainhead of his soul.
Dark or Light?
The Rosarium makes Hermes say: Ego lapis gigno lumen, tenenbrae autem naturae meae sunt: “I, the lapis, beget the light, yet the darkness is of my nature.”
Light and right.
Let’s try this. Over the past year, you have no doubt been in situations that stood out as, say, more momentous than others. Sets of circumstances that were more crucial by way of impacting on your life than did others. How would you describe the shadow’s presence here? If only generally.
Clearly each individual has to deal with the manner in which his or her brain/mind/“I” reacts to the world around it in intertwining the id with the ego, conscious awareness with subconscious and unconscious states of mind, genes with memes, nature with nurture.
Now, my interest here would be in exploring the shadow as it manifest itself to you in the either/or world and then in the is/ought world. That is simply my “thing” here in all of these discussions. .
In other words…the Shadow and dasein? the shadow and conflicting goods? the Shadow and political economy?
Morality on this side of the grave, immortality on the other side.
Thus I would be curious in turn to explore Jung’s shadow as it pertains to death: ideapod.com/carl-jung-explains- … n-you-die/
Well, only to the extent that someone is able or willing to grapple with his or her shadow more substantively, descriptively, empirically etc., would their account be of much interest to me.
In other words, for whatever personal reasons [reasons I am not likely to grasp in not being you], you don’t/won’t go there. The things you then note are [to me] just more general description intellectual contraptions.
I have no idea what in the world you are talking about in regard to “bring[ing] to light the darkness where I would rather not recognize it.” Demons? Sick people? When? where? how? why?
The dark side as a manifestation of biological imperatives more or less than traumas encountered over the course of living your life out in a particular world given a particular set of experiences rooted through nurture in dasein.
As for Baltimore, the Wire, sure. And John Waters films. But the film that came closest to it for me was Jodie Foster’s Home for the Holidays. It was mostly filmed a few miles from my home in Lauraville. I remember a co-worker coming into the company I worked for claiming to have seen Jodie Foster in the seven-eleven in Hamilton. And the part where Robert Downey Jr. is walking past the cemetery on Moravia Road was less than a mile from my house.
Hmm. I wonder how the shadow fit in there? Fit into those characters struggling up on the screen to sustain their human-all-too-human interactions.
The question is how wise is it to divulge even bits of ones own shadow-path.
On the bright side, I have a small video which lightly touches on what turned out to become my shadow-path, which features an explosion from a very dark and Jungian Vietnam horror film, “Jacobs Ladder”.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaKU8GDe0Gk[/youtube]
“Shadow path” nicely said. Mine took decades to unfold. To reverse Jesus’ saying, shall we cast our swine before pearls? Iambiguous, you go first. And last.
Well if it is affecting your ability to function on any significant level simply ignoring it is probably the worst thing you can do
Your demons will not just go away if you are too afraid to confront them as that will only make them stronger in the long run
Jacobs ladder. I’d forgotten that movie. Those shake-head demons scared the bejesus outta me.
Mine too.
if I may ask, did get you anywhere?
Yes. Hahaha.
Yes, that was a very good depiction of hell I thought.
I got a kick out of showing the movie to my friends.
Also remember going to watch Se7en many times in the cinema just for the reaction of the crowd to the Sloth moment.
Does ignoring mean the same as not divulging?
I am able to process things by myself, without posting them online.
Ive tried to process some things online but I cant recommend it brother.
You are certainly welcome to divulge. But … you won’t.
That is what I was referring to - I was not at all suggesting that you make them public - unless you really want to
To be truly open and honest with just yourself by simply accepting who you are despite all of your imperfections
Did It get me anywhere? Yes. I was never comfortable in my own skin until the shadow was somewhat realized through me. Yet, I paid dearly for that comfort.
Per Hoeller, Jung referred to the process of the confrontation with the shadow (the recognition of the unacceptable, or “evil” part of ourselves) as a “gnostic process.”
Your shadow path? Cite a significant set of circumstances along this path and describe to us in some detail the shadow part given the behaviors you chose.
All of our shadows – what we think it is in our heads – are rooted existentially in the manner in which our biological imperatives come into contact with actual extant memes constructed, deconstructed and reconstructed over the years in a particular historical cultural and experiential context. The time and place we are “thrown” into at birth and then indoctrinated [for years] by others to think and feel and say and do what they want us to.
You have now managed to intertwine that in turn with whatever you have come to believe about God and religion.
My path is no different. It’s just on a No God trajectory now. Meaning that whatever my shadow – soul? – turns out to be, it seems to be embodied in an essentially meaningless existence…about to tumble over into the abyss that is oblivion.
And then what of my shadow?
What of yours?
You imagine yourself to be a fair and reasonable arbiter of other people’s propositions on this website. Now If You could see your Shadow you might recognize that you have repeatedly lightly and dispitefully dismissed many reasonable propositions of other participants on this website over the years. In my opinion, it would be unwise for anyone to disclose images that arise spontaneously from their unconscious to you for your nihilisticly motivated consumption.
Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle…
Again:
Your shadow path? Cite a significant set of circumstances along this path and describe to us in some detail the shadow part given the behaviors you chose.
Instead, in my view, you nestle in your ponderous intellectual contraptions – and your “in my head” God – and make the argument about me.
And that way, in my opinion, your comforting and consoling world of words reality always remains in tact.
To get in touch with one’s unconscious psyche is a matter of experience. It doesn’t require any particular metaphysical , supernatural or theological conception or contraption as you like to call such. So your argument about what you imagined to be my point of view is based on your misconception.
Note to others:
See how it works?
Instead of bringing their shadow or their soul or their God or their morality or their enlightenment or their transcending font out into the world and describing for us how they all play out in their interactions with others from day to day, they resort to obtuse pedantry like this.
Unless of course I’m wrong.