Shadow

felix dakat

This is true. I once had a dream about seeing what I believe to be my shadow. Very often I have dreams where I am in the dark of night. lol Anyway, it was nighttime and I was in a forest. I had some overwhelming sense of fear, that something was lurking somewhere. I looked to my left and there was something hiding behind a tree but kind of showing itself. It was, in a sense, there but at the same time, not there. Then I woke up.

I think perhaps that when we encounter such so-called entities it might be a good thing to face them down and ask why they are there and what they have to say to us.

This is true but those are the picayne kind of projections that others can see about us that we do not want to see but they are easier to see if we could give up the ego.

There are far deeper-down parts of our shadow which we are afraid to be made aware of but with self-awareness in moments of experiencing that shadow and honest reflection, we can make it a pussy cat that becomes our companion.

Have you ever watched one of those old spaghetti westerns when someone is being hung on a tree by a rope for stealing a horse? If you observe the crowd, the mob, you see before you a gathering of ignominious shadows waiting for the kill, to be satisfied. It is a very scary thing not knowing who we are and what lurks beneath and within us.

It is a frightening thought that man also has a shadow side to him, consisting not just of little weaknesses- and foibles, but of a positively demonic dynamism. The individual seldom knows anything of this; to him, as an individual, it is incredible that he should ever in any circumstances go beyond himself. But let these harmless creatures form a mass, and there emerges a raging monster; and each individual is only one tiny cell in the monster’s body, so that for better or worse he must accompany it on its bloody rampages and even assist it to the utmost. Having a dark suspicion of these grim possibilities, man turns a blind eye to the shadow-side of human nature. Blindly he strives against the salutary dogma of original sin, which is yet so prodigiously true. Yes, he even hesitates to admit the conflict of which he is so painfully aware.
“On the Psychology of the Unconscious” (1912). In CW 7: Two Essays on Analytical Psychology. P.35

That’s a powerful quote. In particular it suggests that ignoring the Shadow can result in a person naively going along with a malevolent crowd as happened in Nazi Germany and is being recapitulated with the rise of fascism today.

Lol. :smiley: I frequently think this can be expanded to encompass most of philosophy.

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[size=50]Ok ok[/size]. Move along folks, nothing to see here. Oh look over there, an elephant !

The police officer who gave up his job to move to Africa to become a tour guide on Safaris.

God always has with him the Devil.

And with some Gods, like say the OT deity, while the official Devil shows up now and then, the OT deity has some characteristics all on his own.

And Christ must have his Antichrist.

And since we just have the terrible, but somehow part of the plan, Judas, the shadow of the NT is very dark.

Amputating the shadow is when one understands their suppressed traumas, that they exist and what their triggers are, why this is an amputation? Because if one understands self and their own triggers, one can control shadow and let it out in a way of which is healthier for the self and no destructive, which the shadow generally is and can be destructive if not understood or left unchecked. I have done a lot of reading of Carl Jung and I have ideas similar to his and others that go farther from his ideas as well. Subconscious thread and all that. Can’t be a healing serpent if the shadow is not understood via that one has one and it’s functionality.

Yes, quite some darker than the original lure of the snake.
it is interesting to draw this in that context.

The seduction … into knowledge of good and evil. Judas got his share of it. A terrible scene in Mel Gibsons movie.
I mean terrible as in efficiently depicting Judas’ acknowledgement of the power of his shadow.

I would contend that there is such a vast lack of shadow-delineation in terms of our conscious efforts, that the energies that motivate our shadows get intertwined and, probably as they lose agency, hooked into large energetic processes, such as computerization and sheer cosmic force. So, that is to say a hyuge collective shadow is moving at our collective feet, gut… more so than ever before and thus also not as easily stirred into war. Something else than war is brewing. War is passed - the ground is being prepared for philosophy.

The philosopher who has only merit as the medicine man, the magick man the medic of his culture, the tamer of the shadow of the world.

So, triggers - thats a word we haven’t heard before. The shadow is triggered. Yes, I believe that’s relevant.
The art of triggering as the devilish work.

I must say its a solid point. When we investigate a Shadow, do we examine its meaning, or its technique?
Is not perhaps its true meaning in how it operates? Or if not meaning, simply the value of the knowledge to us.

How can we “self-value” ***the shadow, bring it into our terms? Not morally we cant - but what we may learn from it from how it smooths in the night, how it reaches for its means in stealth and employs them with utmost efficiency at issues which are demarcated with evolutionary precision, in this we may retrieve some of our soul which has been taken from us by those innumerable forces preying on any and all weakness in the world -
What I mean to say is - we can only reach for the snake if we are aware that we need to straighten out the snake so as for it to be a sword. Toughen it up, really too.
The shadow as a bird of prey.

Perhaps the shadow is elusive because it moves across our mind as fast as the shadow of a falcon.

*** logick –
that the occult value logic I created is most aptly called logick, I realized. Cool. No?

So like “red pilling” is in a sense a portion of humans integrating their shadow, by taking the means by which they were triggered, and triggering others for the sake of triggering. It is in a sense adolescence of the internet, of mankinds moral psyche as it is interconnected.

Then, most of it just becomes shadow and its executive slaves - that the shadow is engaged and known makes of us primarily demons, not yet… lucifers.

Yes but the true antichrist is part of the soul of the Christ –

where Christ meets antiChrist we have the Lodge.

The Demiurge’s crib.

Yeah. I get that Christ and the Antichrist imply each other from the standpoint of duality and that the Self because of its desire for wholeness seeks the conjunction of opposites. Such is the process of individuation. All of which dynamically enacts in time what is eternally true in the Pleroma-- the One.

For me it hasn’t been clear that long. I never really went into the juxtaposition, because I figured the meaning of Christianity was in unity and trinity rather than in duality.

Actually that is right and not from a repositioning through transcending synthetic objective,except in cases of expediency, where Gnostic faith was still heretical

What underlies this, is really the idea that the Crist had two successive appearances to benefit mankind:

The first as the snake, who gave man conscious knowledge, Satan, and second: the Jesus who gave man an escape from the higher score problems of guilt over existential despair.

He delivered man from the guilt associated from an anomalie that pre existed between what has come to develop through the dasein/existential
distinction in terms of schematic temporal succession between the old, and the new testaments. That previous anomalies, in the late days of the Roman empire, created a crisis of the sort: between power and will: that came to be paralleled by the onslaught of19th century moral doubt, sourced from the tremendous power that the ancien regime conferred upon the new man of the enlightenment.

The contrast deriving from religious morality, derived primarily from the tremendous angst from loss of faith., which, ironically is being revised again by the current U.S. administration.

The fact that both monist and dualist propositions are present in Christianity is itself a dualism. When discursive human thought attempts to transcend dualism it finds itself in paradox. The archetypes of the collective unconscious are all paradoxical. For example, The shadow itself, supposedly a negative thing, once recognized for what it is rather than repressed, generates a positive animal energy that makes a person more vibrant and alive.

Hmmmm… Ive thought this over for a day and must say I cant really see the two as one. Christ is not a tempter. His story has its own temptation in it - I prefer KT’s version with Judas as the one who meets the shadow and suffers the old-testament type consequences.
Its a matter of interpretation though.
I now remember from my gnostic days that there is also a gospel of Judas. I did read (in) it but it didn’t do anything for me back then.

And loss of faith is often the result of loss of self-respect.
Restoration of faith precedes the restoration of self-respect.

No one had any faith at all in the US. It was a sick joke to us all. Now, half the world is in awe and the other half is in spasms.
Indeed something is happening here - what it is aint exactly clear.