So should the whole world stop having sex just because you claim it is all non consensual and therefore rape
Or should consenting adults who consciously want to have sex do so because they have decided they want to
What gives you the moral authority to tell everyone who has sex that they are engaging in rape anyway
How do you know that the conscious and subconscious mind ALWAYS disagree with each other about this
Other than you actually thinking that all sex is consent violation do you have any evidence for this claim of yours
By your definition consent violation occurs with every human interaction so why are you only focusing on just one
The only way to avoid any consent violation would be to have absolutely no interaction with any one at all
This would be incredibly impractical as well as creating the psychological problem of a life time of isolation
Therefore for practical reasons the final arbiter in all interactions should be the conscious not the subconscious mind as one is more aware of how it thinks
Every one cannot live all their life being alone but even if they could they would still be making conscious decisions that would consitute consent violation
Science does not condemn because it is entirely neutral on moral issues as morality is beyond its jurisdiction
Common sense is not a reliable metric for determining anything - it lacks consistency and is purely subjective
Your claim that consent violation occurs with every single sex act between men and women is simply infantile
i’m glad you brought this up because there’s been a lot of consumer reports about various cameras and phones exploding from electrical malfunction while taking selfies. now see i’ve always thought there was something suspicious about this. an electrical problem seems too unlikely, to bizarre. seems to me it’s much more reasonable to assume the camera exploded because the person’s heart chakra was too much.
hahaha exactly.
no but this was a device with electrodes for all fingers and stuff, I just crashed the computer. I exaggerated. When she rebooted it the picture had been saved and it showed my heart chakra as a - well this is private stuff. But it was a fun experience except I was in a lot of pain back then, which is why I was in a place like that in the first place.
My sense is the people who have been accused of being rapists by a person who claims to be the only person deserving of sex, have been dealing with you fairly respectfully. And I have not be accused and condemned by science. And are you really saying the common sense is both generally good and not something - were it capable of accusing you - would not accuse you. Common sense says there is one person on the planet who deserves sex, he is building a hyperdimensional mirror and has been in contact with various deities and spirits. You are on the side of common sense and science?
And note: my beliefs might very well cause all sorts of negative reactions from both scientists and common sensers. So my point is not mocking you for having out of the mainstream beliefs. My point is that it is an odd alliance you seem to think you have.
If you didn’t fully understand my proofs on this, but heard me at various points in this journey, you’d probably even think that I was mysoginistic.
I’m actually misanthropic, and I tend to be a very nice person given that.
what I’m saying is that I’m the only male who knows how to have consensual sex. And if you bothered to read my longer post, that’s almost impossible for me because of putting out to the cosmos that I want to be with a wonderful woman or women.
If you never did that in your life, all you have to do to have consensual sex with a woman is to break up with the no means yes banner over (necessarily) ones current relationship, explain all of these laws to another woman and abide by them, and if she accepts you, that will be a yes means yes relationship. It’s probably easier for the average male to be more deserving than me!
So again, this comes from a misunderstanding or not reading what I’m actually saying.
The thing that makes me a misanthrope is that people universally on this planet, celebrate and are content with zero sum outcomes …
I don’t like this about people, in fact I’m quite appalled and disgusted by it!
I’m still a reasonably kind person though, treating people with dignity while holding boundaries.
And calling it like I see it, which is the inverse of infantalizing you or others.
You may be a very nice person but that is not the issue here
Rather when you suggest that only you can be capable of consensual sex and that every
other man is automatically a rapist by default and the human species is a rape species
I am not offended by that at all because it is so demonstrably false but you really believe what you write
Your posts here are essentially a monologue with yourself as you dont really listen to what anyone else says
The disconnect with reality as evidenced by your posts on rape and other issues is why iambiguous will not debate you you know
You probably think you are making perfect sense but that is not the impression that I and others get from your posts on the forum
You can carry on posting how you want to but dont just expect any meaningful discourse because that isnt happening any time soon
I actually like you but I find you very irrational which is why I have to leave you eventually because you just make zero sense to me
I’d rather you stick to this term than what you have previously been using, as we understand what you are saying, but we do not need to keep reading it… this is not up for discussion.
So you want me to call it statutory rape instead of rape?
So iambiguous gets to vehemently argue in thousands of posts that all morals are wrong because of his hole, but I’m not allowed to speak out against rape, to condemn it?
I’ve had this conversation about 5 times in this board, once in a very appropriate incel topic, iambiguous has stated for thousands of posts and hundreds of threads with very long monologues that morality doesn’t exist, and occasionally he gives an aggressive wink and says “unless I am wrong”
At least I have morals.
I’m not saying this in anger, I’m actually bored while I’m typing this message.
I’m simply stating that these priorities are internally inconsistent
The problem is that no one other than yourself accepts your definition of what rape is
What you regard as consent violation and what everybody else does are not the same
Also what iambiguous posts about morality in other threads has nothing do with this
If the start has a no means yes tag on it, that tag endures for the entire relationship. It’s very simple.
Actually, iambiguouses posting history has everything to do with this. His content is a billion times more offensive and he’s done it in hundreds of threads.
A billion times less offensive and only 5 threads…
The start doesnt have a no means yes tag on it at all - this is just your value judgement and no one elses and its entirely wrong as well
And the same for iambiguous having content a billion times more offensive - again your value judgement only and equally as wrong too
So, you’re going to go on the record as saying, against all science and common sense, that women show equal or less aversion to sexual signaling than men do.
If a man strips down naked in a highly populated area, everyone considers him a sexual predator. A safe space where there is no real fear to be had, women will show much more fear than men.
If a woman jumps out of the tree on a lone street in the darkness naked, the man might jump for a moment (not safe at all), and then decide one of two things: that this is a great blessing, or that the woman is emotionally disturbed. NEVER will the thought cross his mind that she is a sexual predator.
Thing is: both science and common sense refute you
They are not considered sexual predators because of the historical regard of women as physically weaker than men. Needless to say, that has changed in modern times. There are women athletes, particularly weightlifters and MMA fighters, who would challenge you to a few rounds to prove otherwise.
A couple of questions:
What percentage of women, say, between 18-30 years of age would you consider sexual predators?
You never did elaborate on why your rape theory didn’t apply to homosexuals, and in using that term I figure you mean both gays and lesbians. What about transgender?
Your views on this and the subconscious have already been noted. Could you please provide some links to external sources that corroborate your views?
I’m really not cherry picking here, this link is just the first non advertising credible link that I found.
Read a few of the replies to get an idea of the state of the art here:
Homosexuals do not send no means yes signaling because they are not sex dimorphic to each other!!!
You’re other responses sound like a crazed feminist who simply states that women can do ANYTHING as well as a man! This is blatantly false!
Because men are sex dimorphic (meaning that the whole male sex is larger and stronger than the whole female sex), rape dimorphic (men are more threatening in a rape sense because of basic sex biology of sexual organs) and weapons and combat training dimorphic (men have almost all the weapons and also almost all the training), women have evolved an involuntary aversion reaction to male sexual signals, it’s built into their DNA! Women have no choice in this matter.
As for sexual abusers between 18-30, women prey upon children and teenagers, men from 18 to 30 prey upon anything that walks the earth! Men will even rape a rhinoscerous!
So here’s the deal:
Women cannot biologically do everything as good as a man, they just can’t do it. Sure, lots of things that men are better at are extremely shameful for the whole species, I hang my head low in shame just thinking of it.
Are you saying that on average men only ever bang about 8 women? Like in a whole lifetime?
Ecmandu’s reply:
Yes. This isn’t to say that they don’t have sex tens of thousands of times in a lifetime (like most people), from those 8 average partners, just that a very broad base of the female sexual variety of number of partners is substantially higher than men.
I love that the part where he used shorthand without remembering the audiance. His shorthand was false. So he used false data because of his audience. In every generation men have more partners than women. Now there are certainly men who are excluded. But get him to produce the research to back up his ideas.