## Plans for a religion

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### Re: Plans for a religion

barbarianhorde wrote:You kind of need a god to create a religion, nay?
There was the guy who started EST. There's Scientology which might be argued to have a God or gods, but it sure does trickle down much to participating in the religion. Buddhist can be non-theists, though some are. All you need the 'the' answer.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

List:

Indoor electric heaters for a large insulated main room.
Lots of room outside for tents.
Unheated rooms for storage and other purposes.
Large fence around the main tent area.

Recommended donations:
10$per day without food, 20$ per day with food included.

Green houses, goats, and chickens.

Public items such as gaming consoles.
2 TVs.

2 shower rooms. 1 tub room. 3 toilets.

Large kitchen with electric cooking devices.

Inviting monks and public speakers.
Anyone allowed to speak though.

Let's do it, danno. But we'll need an area where we can park the Volkswagen vanagons and a big fire pit around which we'll sit at night and drink jagermeister, smoke Mexican brick weed, rip each other off for small, personal possessions, play cheap Yamaha acoustic guitars with terrible intonation, sing harmony, and watch the stars in the southern sky. If you can set something like that up... I'm there, dude.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

promethean75 wrote:Let's do it, danno. But we'll need an area where we can park the Volkswagen vanagons and a big fire pit around which we'll sit at night and drink jagermeister, smoke Mexican brick weed, rip each other off for small, personal possessions, play cheap Yamaha acoustic guitars with terrible intonation, sing harmony, and watch the stars in the southern sky. If you can set something like that up... I'm there, dude.

I was hoping to facilitate low cost rent and living,
so that they can grow closer to liberation.
Even a 1 week vacation to the place would be encouraged.

(this would be in the distant future)
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Karpel Tunnel wrote:
barbarianhorde wrote:You kind of need a god to create a religion, nay?
There was the guy who started EST. There's Scientology which might be argued to have a God or gods, but it sure does trickle down much to participating in the religion. Buddhist can be non-theists, though some are. All you need the 'the' answer.

Ill give you this one.
cause you deserve it
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Developing Piety:

In my own case,
piety consists of:

Wisdom, Compassion, Harmony, Non-Abuse,

These are very possible goals when a person tries hard.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

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Today I'd like to talk about holism.

When many small things form larger things,
this is considered the form of holism.

What good is a brain without a mind?
What good is a car without wheels?
And in enlightenment, increments, are wholistic.

When we think, the more we think about one thing,
the more it grows. It touches the whole.
This is why I consider some of mass media as dangerous.
Not dangerous as in immediate danger,
but dangerous to nobility.
The wrong thing is often the easiest thing which requires
the least intelligence.
This is how zombies are made. They move, but they have no intellect.

When we rerout our whole so that it feeds back
into the center of our mind, (the crown chakra)
it changes. The more you send in, the more it changes.
Petty entertainment can consume our mind if we let it do so.
Principles of the nature of the mind,
also apply to principles of the whole.

When we change, as we live, it is noble
to try to produce the highest possibel good for the longest possible time.
In theory, just like a car is in need of its parts entirely,
life's parts are needed entirely for true living.

(( These things seem important to me. I hope you enjoy the audio format or you can just view the text.
They are both essentially the same ))
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Melting is the best way i can describe this process.
You let go of everyone and everything.
You must not fear loss.

As you breath out, you let go, and relax,
so that you are like water instead of like a stone.

If you totally stop effecting your existence,
it will revert to a more natural, original form.

Also, when you attain this, it is permanent.
It doesn't go away or ware off.
Unless you try very hard to screw yourself up.

Excitation is an opposite to relaxation.
You probably spent most of your life trying to
find fun activities. This can be fun, yes,
but what is best for our whole self can be,
counter-intuitive and in someways they
deal with void and nothingness too.

So, we have excitation, then also, relaxation.
Between proper exciting and proper relaxing, we can produce,
harmony, in its various forms.

Melt every knot in your energy body.
Let old un-needed habits slowly dissolve and fade away.

Letting go and melting will be surprisingly easy and helpful.
its original form.

There are multiple levels of this, too.
Various energy structures are connected to people
between lives. Some of those things need to be either
healed or dissolved depending on what is best
for the whole self.

The principle of melting forms,
applies to many things not yet covered.
You can melt back many things in many ways.
Just remember to do what you can and wait
for what you can't.
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### Re: Plans for a religion

Here is a monk talking about letting go.

Letting go is part of the melting process that i already wrote about.

However, it is not about throwing away, in the case of melting,
Don't burn bridges or throw away everything you have.
However, repair the bridges and conserve your energy.

Hopefully this will be understood.
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Virtue is real.
Virtue is true.
Virtue is attainable.
Virtue is the best and highest thing in existence.

We can call this classicalism:
Higher and lower, left and right, short and tall.
Abstraction.
Thinking is percieved as work;
Work is precieved as progress.

Once the majority of ideas are labelled, dualized, temporalised, etc.
There is a human sense of accomplishment.
This, "creating knowledge", is like mc donalds.
It's not real beef anymore at one point.
Just kidding.
It's hard to have raw, pure thoughts.

However, creating knowledge, it is like
And once you have a chunk of knowledge,
without forgetting it,
or miss-managing it,
you can accept it. But maybe it, essentially,
is boring, then that is another way which haults the process.

Virtue in thinking is like this:
Presistance, Clarity, Dedication, Patience,
Wisdom, Harmony, Agility, Strength, Resiliance, etc.

There is pure thought, then there is impure thought.

Often pure awareness is obstructed heavily.
The human mind is filled with pollution.

What is the best highest virtue?
What is the best wish?
Wish for unlimited wishes?
Value unlimited values.
This means: that which ceates virtue,
is more fundamental than virtue.
That which creates virtue can be called meta virtue.
Or the source of virtue.

Healthy mind, healthy body, healthy soul.
These things produce virtue.
Good and kind beings, are actuating virtues.
Even if a good and kind animal has a simple mind,
they may also be good-natured even without the
extra help of a large intellect.

What created the creator of virtue?
Can we trace creation?
Cells. Cells cooperating.
This has been written on the Holism document.
Virtue can only exist as a whole.
A molecule alone doesn't equate to anything.
But a living structure is made of those molecules.

The whole, is the ultimate virtue.
And it can create beyond itself, too.
The ultimage virtue can create virtues,
of any imaginable kind.
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