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barbarianhorde wrote:Noach and them, Abraham, they all were hundreds of years before they died. Quite a bit of life under the belt!
But how did this happen? I believe it. But how? I think because life was more meaningful then.
Apart from the stories in Genesis where the Patriarchs are said to have lived for hundreds of years including Methuselah who it claims lived to be 969 I'm unaware of any supporting evidence unless you're referring to extra biblical religious texts like The Book of Enoch which is based on the same stories and has a lot of its own unexplained fantastic elements.barbarianhorde wrote:I don't really know for sure but it seems like well documented stuff to me plus I read a lot about breaking the death-habit. I think dying young, before 100 and so on is a cultural fad. Science also discovered that the aging process is not integral to the living process, and a bunch of species never die of old age.
Can I ask you why you don't believe, or believe?
barbarianhorde wrote:Excuses.... you know its in the Bible, but you wanna know from which source I got it?
Well, I got out of the Bible. And like I said I don't see why I won't believe it. Most of whats in the Bible that Ive read is pretty realistic, except of course the parts about Jesus, the new testaments, you explained how this is a lie. And also I don't think the story is very believable, with the fishes and what not. But in the old Bible there are different stories like about the flood which of course happened and tribal wars which all seem pretty much like how life works.
Anyway I am probably a lot more religious than you.
felix dakat wrote:Why do you suppose the Bible is historically accurate? I didn't say the New Testament was a lie. It's complicated. Yeah there are floods and tribal wars. But, I don't think there is evidence of a great flood like in Genesis. And all of the stories about wars in the OT are not necessarily accurate. It's complicated too.
barbarianhorde wrote:felix dakat wrote:Why do you suppose the Bible is historically accurate? I didn't say the New Testament was a lie. It's complicated. Yeah there are floods and tribal wars. But, I don't think there is evidence of a great flood like in Genesis. And all of the stories about wars in the OT are not necessarily accurate. It's complicated too.
Sure there is evidence of a flood that wiped away the foliage of Egypt, the Nile valley was green from what I read. I think there is no reason to mistrust the Bible because everything makes perfect sense, but I have only really read the first books. I like how they talk, Isaiah is pretty damn smart.
felix dakat wrote:barbarianhorde wrote:felix dakat wrote:Why do you suppose the Bible is historically accurate? I didn't say the New Testament was a lie. It's complicated. Yeah there are floods and tribal wars. But, I don't think there is evidence of a great flood like in Genesis. And all of the stories about wars in the OT are not necessarily accurate. It's complicated too.
Sure there is evidence of a flood that wiped away the foliage of Egypt, the Nile valley was green from what I read. I think there is no reason to mistrust the Bible because everything makes perfect sense, but I have only really read the first books. I like how they talk, Isaiah is pretty damn smart.
No doubt there have been numerous floods over the Earth's 4.5 billion year history. Egypt may have been turned into a desert by overfarming. Fantastical things do happen. Like, for example, the existence of the universe is fantastic and yet undeniable. But fantastical claims require supporting evidence. So if you look at the claims of the Bible as propositions, then it makes sense to ask where's the empirical evidence? If there isn't any you're left with an unanswered question. And it makes sense to look for the simplest possible answers which usually rules out miraculous explanations. Isaiah was smart. But he lived during the Iron Age prior to the advent of modern science. So it makes sense to look at his propositions accordingly. Or so it seems to me this afternoon.
felix dakat wrote:Source?
lordoflight wrote:From what I hear, they lived longer because there was twice as much oxygen in the atmosphere. Also, people got more exercise.
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