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Everyone knows what is morally good or bad

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:58 pm

I've heard the argument that you NEED the bad to discern the good, some even think through this line that bad is good.

Let me correct that.

What we all know to be morally good is 100 percent consent.

Let's say life is a roller coaster, and one part becomes to scary and you say "no!!!" And you teleport off of it and are safely on the ground.

Maybe 1000 years later you try to go further ...

But it's all on your own terms, and on your own terms, you develop a sense of right and wrong.

You don't need to be out of control of horrors and pains and torments and sufferings to experience right and wrong.

From this, we can conclude, that any opposing world system is evil, to be killed, arrested, imprisoned, it is beyond the pale ... crossing the line from consent to non-consent.
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Re: Everyone knows what is morally good or bad

Postby Ecmandu » Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:54 am

Ecmandu wrote:I've heard the argument that you NEED the bad to discern the good, some even think through this line that bad is good.

Let me correct that.

What we all know to be morally good is 100 percent consent.

Let's say life is a roller coaster, and one part becomes to scary and you say "no!!!" And you teleport off of it and are safely on the ground.

Maybe 1000 years later you try to go further ...

But it's all on your own terms, and on your own terms, you develop a sense of right and wrong.

You don't need to be out of control of horrors and pains and torments and sufferings to experience right and wrong.

From this, we can conclude, that any opposing world system is evil, to be killed, arrested, imprisoned, it is beyond the pale ... crossing the line from consent to non-consent.


I want to add to this because it may not be clear.

Every being wants a 100% consensual reality; to the extent this doesn't occur, we can define the reality in question a pure evil.
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Re: Everyone knows what is morally good or bad

Postby phyllo » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:10 pm

Every being wants a 100% consensual reality; to the extent this doesn't occur, we can define the reality in question a pure evil.
Just accept what is and try to change what you dislike about it.

You can push the universe in a preferred direction but you can't recreate the universe.
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Re: Everyone knows what is morally good or bad

Postby Silhouette » Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:17 pm

Now apply this to children.

They want to gorge on sweets/candy, make loud noises in inappropriate situations, defecate themselves whenever they feel like it, sometimes play in unsafe environments, play for short term fun rather than work on less pleasant and/or more difficult things for long term gain and so on and so on and so on...

Do they 100% consent to being parented in their best interests? Absolutely not.

Is being parented in their best interests a moral good? Obviously.

Are some people never really grown up enough to parent themselves even in adulthood? Evidently.

Think through your arguments before you post them. Or are your arguments 100% good because you can't be bothered to do this and you consent more to blurting out the first thing that comes into your head?

In this case, I'd say it's more moral for you to be parented against your consent...
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Re: Everyone knows what is morally good or bad

Postby Ecmandu » Sat Sep 22, 2018 12:17 am

Silhouette wrote:Now apply this to children.

They want to gorge on sweets/candy, make loud noises in inappropriate situations, defecate themselves whenever they feel like it, sometimes play in unsafe environments, play for short term fun rather than work on less pleasant and/or more difficult things for long term gain and so on and so on and so on...

Do they 100% consent to being parented in their best interests? Absolutely not.

Is being parented in their best interests a moral good? Obviously.

Are some people never really grown up enough to parent themselves even in adulthood? Evidently.

Think through your arguments before you post them. Or are your arguments 100% good because you can't be bothered to do this and you consent more to blurting out the first thing that comes into your head?

In this case, I'd say it's more moral for you to be parented against your consent...


In 100% consensual realities, there are no negative consequences you don't want.

Your parents, as would every being in your reality, would be reflections of hyperdimensional mirrors from platonic forms. It's impossible to hurt anyone or be hurt by anyone against your will. Your limitation is your imagination.
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