Proof of reincarnation.

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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Karpel Tunnel » Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:13 pm

I like that first link. I know the feeling.
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Arcturus Descending » Fri Nov 02, 2018 2:49 pm


I'd say, we suffer ourselves, and pleasure is a segment of this self-suffering, the segment we suffer voluntarily. I think the "key" to life is to know how to enjoy the greater part of the self-suffering.

You almost seem to be speaking of masochism here unless you do not actually mean that suffering is pleasurable though to a masochist it can be. They can derive pleasure and satisfaction from their suffering.

We are capable of suffering at times and of feeling pleasure/enjoyment/joy at times.
Perhaps they are like the aspects of a diamond ~ separate but belonging to the same self.
We know the one because we are intimate with the other.

Do we actually feel pleasure, if that is the experience or emotion, when we are suffering even though we realize that it is for a good cause? Or might it have, could we give it, a different name, a less masochistic or hedonistic name?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake

“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience

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― William Blake
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby beautifuljose » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:46 pm

I believe that nothing good comes easy
our life is a struggle, and if we do enough of efforts it might end up with something good
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby bahman » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:44 pm

Silhouette wrote:
surreptitious75 wrote:Eternal non existence is a state free from all suffering so it is therefore infinitely preferable to existence

It's also a state free from all pleasure/enjoyment/satisfaction/contentment, so it's equally not preferable to existence. Eternal non existence is a null state.

Yes, I agree. The reality is indifferent.
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Exuberant Teleportation » Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:20 pm

Why are we brought back to the generator of a 1000 lives swimming pool, and reunited with our higher selves to immerse ourselves into the spectrum of full elevation? Is there a machine that's harvesting us, pulling our strings, playing with our life shards, and dumping us back into a meat grinder?

For some reason, we have to learn the long and painful way, rather than just having a super computer god ultimate designer programmer upload all of he schematics into our minds.

It's kind of like asking why when we play Pokemon games, we can't all just start out at level 100.

There must be some deep engine in ultimate reality that we have to overturn, to defeat, to cast back into the darkness, and finally, when all preparations and stages are met, build the rainbow bridge to infinity.

Way outside our soul source, we could merge somewhere with pure Wish, giving us all of our desires, playing on the seashore to of a fantastic telescope of wonder.
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Re: Proof of reincarnation.

Postby Meno_ » Fri Feb 08, 2019 8:06 pm

It may be more basic, like getting down to the most often asked , yet all pervading question : is it this , or, is it that.

Is what we summarize as Consciousness , outsourced or in, or is there a causality to indifferetiate or It's opposite, .?

For, if , we are like receivers , channelling in signals shutting out most other interference, than it's obvious we really are a form of convertible artificial simulation .

But if the paradox be held that the totality of that outsource can be absolutely re-created,and only internally sliced, then the paradox dissipates.
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