Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

For intuitive and critical discussions, from spirituality to theological doctrines. Fair warning: because the subject matter is personal, moderation is strict.

Moderator: Dan~

Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Greatest I am » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:22 pm

Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Love without reciprocity, works and deeds, according to scriptures and Jesus’ own words, not that a supernatural Jesus ever existed, is not a true love.

All you need to do, to know the truth of that notion; is to look at your own standards of love. You would not love someone who does not return that love, as that is more a stalkers kind of love.

Some Christians and other believers will not see that. Most who are not led by faith, generally accept the truth stated above.

This link, in its message, gives about the same notion.

http://imgur.com/a/CIce4

Your thoughts?

Regards
DL
User avatar
Greatest I am
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1887
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:07 pm

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Exuberant Teleportation » Sat Apr 27, 2019 1:11 am

Yahweh is very, very powerful (and Jesus is actually Yeshua, Yahweh the Father), but He may not always be able to help us. With Yahweh comes more responsibility that from satan, because Yahweh coordinates mass shadow projects to emblazon the cosmos with His essence, to realize all of His dreams like an oracle of our highest fulfillment.

And to put us into all of these advanced paradigms, He may torture (stalk, as You said) us some to point us in that direction.

Of course, Yahweh will forgive You too if You just want to enjoy Yourself rather than fulfill Your duties, but with satan, You may actually damage perfection out of some sour idea of bitterness. The best approach is to be Strong, to take on all of Our challenges, because that builds the Kingdom, and gives us the greatest sense of peace and liberation in the Heavenly realms.
RaptorWizard - Secret Garden of Rare Quotes viewtopic.php?f=1&t=194124
RevanFailNhilusOwn https://www.youtube.com/user/RevanFailNhilusOwn
machine/celebi tesla Polarities/Extremities http://montalk.net/
The Dragon Mind of Zen https://www.youtube.com/user/bodhichild
Luke Skywalker http://www.thehiddenrecords.com/
How many stars are there? I'm going to be the first one to see them all!
The idea is to carry a wish crown, a kind of shimmering artwork or network gallery, a set of bands or chosen assignments that flips a GameBoyColor into a Will-o~the+Wisp/ectoplasm, or the whispering of the Thunder being the Oracle.
The highest North is the Heaviest helmet, immersing you into all of the constellations!!
Breton to Skyrim, so the Devil made multifaceted copies of himself that got progressively better along the Way! Polaris Statues have orbs that stand out from all the rest slows people down! The dark side is small compared to the Light! Lao Tzu is Yoda’s Tao.
User avatar
Exuberant Teleportation
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2016 10:34 pm
Location: House Telvanni

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Gloominary » Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:40 am

What would it even mean to love an entity that needs absolutely nothing from anyone?
User avatar
Gloominary
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1423
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 5:58 am
Location: Dislocated

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:24 pm

Exuberant Teleportation wrote:Yahweh is very, very powerful (and Jesus is actually Yeshua, Yahweh the Father), but He may not always be able to help us. With Yahweh comes more responsibility that from satan, because Yahweh coordinates mass shadow projects to emblazon the cosmos with His essence, to realize all of His dreams like an oracle of our highest fulfillment.

And to put us into all of these advanced paradigms, He may torture (stalk, as You said) us some to point us in that direction.

Of course, Yahweh will forgive You too if You just want to enjoy Yourself rather than fulfill Your duties, but with satan, You may actually damage perfection out of some sour idea of bitterness. The best approach is to be Strong, to take on all of Our challenges, because that builds the Kingdom, and gives us the greatest sense of peace and liberation in the Heavenly realms.


So you see god ignoring our free will and torturing us.

I will ignore all the other fantasy you put and accept that you think stalks us more than loves us.

Thanks.

Regards
DL
User avatar
Greatest I am
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1887
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:07 pm

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Apr 27, 2019 2:27 pm

Gloominary wrote:What would it even mean to love an entity that needs absolutely nothing from anyone?


Good question.

I would sat, not a damned thing. That is likely why Jesus said he came to serve and not be served, which Christians of course ignore by all wanting to bend the knee to him, which he says he does not want.

Then again, Christians are not known for doing what god or Jesus want.

Regards
DL
User avatar
Greatest I am
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1887
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:07 pm

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby promethean75 » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:21 pm

Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?


i don't know abut you other people, but he's been running from me since 2007 when he fucked up, violated his contract, and dropped the ball. so i've revised the story; on the seventh day he looked at the disaster he created and fell asleep... on the eighth day he woke up and started running.
promethean75
Thinker
 
Posts: 591
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2019 7:10 pm

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Arcturus Descending » Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:30 pm

Gloominary wrote:What would it even mean to love an entity that needs absolutely nothing from anyone?


It might possibly mean that we have been transported to another galaxy where a species of a different kind exists. Adaptation would be the name of the game. :evilfun:

Aside from that, I do not know if that is even a possibility psychologically. Even a Mother Teresa or a Fr. Damien of Molokai, both of whom are gone now but not forgotten, might "need" or "desire", spiritually speaking (words are so tricky, are they not?) the human experience of believing or knowing that their life of service, love and compassion was making a difference in the world to those whom they were serving. If not so, where would the will and momentum come from? Would it be coming from a love of God? I do not believe that we are pure angelic beings, wholly altruistic, completely detached from an outcome. How could even the two above be that way?
“How can a bird that is born for joy
Sit in a cage and sing?”
― William Blake


“Little Fly
Thy summers play,
My thoughtless hand
Has brush'd away.

Am not I
A fly like thee?
Or art not thou
A man like me?

For I dance
And drink & sing:
Till some blind hand
Shall brush my wing.

If thought is life
And strength & breath:
And the want
Of thought is death;

Then am I
A happy fly,
If I live,
Or if I die”
― William Blake, Songs of Innocence and of Experience


“No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings.”
― William Blake
User avatar
Arcturus Descending
Consciousness Seeker
 
Posts: 15345
Joined: Sat Sep 06, 2008 5:15 pm
Location: A state of unknowing

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:34 pm

promethean75 wrote:
Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?


i don't know abut you other people, but he's been running from me since 2007 when he fucked up, violated his contract, and dropped the ball. so i've revised the story; on the seventh day he looked at the disaster he created and fell asleep... on the eighth day he woke up and started running.


=D> =D> :D

A more believable story than the garbage Christians come up with.

Regards
DL
User avatar
Greatest I am
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1887
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:07 pm

Re: Does Jesus/Yahweh love us or is he stalking us?

Postby Greatest I am » Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:41 pm

Arcturus Descending wrote: Even a Mother Teresa or a Fr. , both of whom are gone now but not forgotten, might "need" or "desire", spiritually speaking (words are so tricky, are they not?) the human experience of believing or knowing that their life of service, love and compassion was making a difference in the world to those whom they were serving.


I do not know about Damien of Molokai but Mother Teresa sure did a lot of good for the Vatican she served by making the dying lay on low wooden beads with poor mattresses because she would not buy better due to sending the charity money to the super rich Vatican.

Regards
DL
User avatar
Greatest I am
Philosopher
 
Posts: 1887
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:07 pm


Return to Religion and Spirituality



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users