Kropotkin at 8000 posts

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Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:19 pm

this post marks a milestone where I have made 8000 post here
at ILP.....

and what have I learned in my 15 years here and not necessarily from ILP
but from my thinking, reading and writing.....

that values matter...the values we hold make all the difference in the world.....

that my words and actions still don't match....that I still engage in
hypocrisy because my words and my actions don't match....

at least I am aware of this hypocrisy that I exists in....I look at
my words/language and see if they match my actions.....

I claim to be a person of peace, and love and yet, I too
engage in words of violence and brutality in my everyday life
and in my ILP life... when I insult someone here on ILP...
that is not engaging in my words of peace and love....

now one might say, its ok Kropotkin, it is a small thing....
but that is kinda the point, everything is just a small thing...
when are we going to treat those small things as important things....

in my own personal life, I don't always practice what I preach...
and that is a failure in my life......my words must match my actions.....
or I am engaging in hypocrisy.......

the first step, the first step always begins at becoming aware.....

do I see myself as I act and interact with other people?

am I aware of what I am saying and what I am doing
and do my words match my actions?

we human beings, myself included, go though life sleepwalking
and we act without any thought and we speak without giving it
any thought......

But why Kropotkin? why hold yourself to a higher standard then other people
hold themselves to?

because I am aware and they are not.....

also, to follow Nietzsche words, to become an autonomous and rational human being,
I must become aware of myself at all times, while I speak and while I act.....

If I am to become a philosopher, a real philosopher, I must connect my
actions with my words.... I must become a "man of my word"

and that has been the failure of philosophy, the words, the very fancy words
of a Hume or a Kant or a Locke, have only been just that, words.....

they haven't been put into action...

if we are truly to become philosophers in the truest sense of the word,
we must, must connect our words and our actions.......

up till now, philosophy has engaged in a fairly sophisticated version of
hypocrisy, but it has been hypocrisy nevertheless.....the words and the
actions haven't match...in philosophy, outside of one or two people...

Spinoza and Socrates.. those two have had their words and their actions, match....

those two and only those two have been the true philosophers
because their words and their actions matched.....

they have been authentic to the values of philosophy.....
because their words and actions have matched.....

and what words should we be engage in?

the explorations and discovery of values....

"what values should we hold?"
"what values make us better human beings?"
"why is love a greater value then hate?"

these and other questions of values is what we should be engaged in.....

in my engagement with values, I have found out the truth about being human....

"we are what our values are"

discover your values and you will discover who you are.....

and then we can begin our exploration of matching our words/values
with our actions.....

Kropotkin
"Those who sacrifice liberty for security
wind up with neither."
"Ben Franklin"
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby MagsJ » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:57 pm

Go you. : }
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I haven't got the time to spend the time reading something that is telling me nothing, as I will never be able to get back that time, and I may need it for something at some point in time.. Wait, What! - MagsJ


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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby derleydoo » Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:59 pm

A most worthy post to celebrate your 8000th! Congratulations, Mister Kropotkin, sir! =D>
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:08 pm

I forgot my 10,000th just like I forgot my 30th birthday (until 4 days later). My 10,000th happened 2 weeks ago.
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Peter Kropotkin » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:08 pm

derleydoo wrote:A most worthy post to celebrate your 8000th! Congratulations, Mister Kropotkin, sir! =D>



K: why thank you dear sir.....I was just finishing up your little dust up with
Ecumandu.... I would have written earlier but I didn't know about it...
you held your patience far better then I did when I argued with him..


I have much to learn from you...... thank you...

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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby derleydoo » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:28 pm

Ecmandu wrote:I forgot my 10,000th just like I forgot my 30th birthday (until 4 days later). My 10,000th happened 2 weeks ago.


You are far too modest - you neglected to mention either event! Congratulations! :obscene-drinkingcheers: Here's to many more of each!
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Ecmandu » Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:31 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote:
derleydoo wrote:A most worthy post to celebrate your 8000th! Congratulations, Mister Kropotkin, sir! =D>



K: why thank you dear sir.....I was just finishing up your little dust up with
Ecumandu.... I would have written earlier but I didn't know about it...
you held your patience far better then I did when I argued with him..


I have much to learn from you...... thank you...

Kropotkin


Peter, you’re really going to celebrate your 8000th post thread by condemning me?

Ok, I’ll reply.

I understand everything you understand. When I teach you something new, you get offended.

Look at this post and tell me if I’m a shithead:

viewtopic.php?p=2772167#p2772167

My selective pressure was much different than yours or derleydoos ... I had to survive a harshness neither of you comprehend. It’s not an excuse for not being perfect, but I can guarantee I’m more perfect than both of you combined (in terms of not being a hypocrite).
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Ecmandu » Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:06 am

derleydoo wrote:
Ecmandu wrote:I forgot my 10,000th just like I forgot my 30th birthday (until 4 days later). My 10,000th happened 2 weeks ago.


You are far too modest - you neglected to mention either event! Congratulations! :obscene-drinkingcheers: Here's to many more of each!


That was very kind of you, and obviously I insulted you after this comment. I hope you can internalize that I insult everyone. It’s part of my shtick in a species like this. Meeting me in person? We’d love each other. Online doesn’t translate nuance.
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby derleydoo » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:31 am

Ecmandu wrote:That was very kind of you, and obviously I insulted you after this comment. I hope you can internalize that I insult everyone. It’s part of my shtick in a species like this. Meeting me in person? We’d love each other. Online doesn’t translate nuance.


Well, I internalized. Elsewhere, you have bemoaned the fact that everyone is against you. You have been ejected from other sites, etc.

derleydoo wrote:A most worthy post to celebrate your 8000th! Congratulations, Mister Kropotkin, sir! =D>


I have asked Mister Kropotkin, on a number of occasions, not to call me, sir, and not to be quite so complimentary towards me. To mark the occasion of his 8000th post, I thought it fitting to send a sentimental, gushing, congratulatory, celebratory post. In the Nintendo RPG game, you get what you give! :)
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Re: Kropotkin at 8000 posts

Postby Meno_ » Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:48 pm

And the winner is.......
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