A chat with a philosophical layman about Ethics

[size=85]n the following discussion the letter E will stand for: Ethicist – by which is meant ‘a teacher of Ethics’ – perhaps a professional who gets paid to teach it; or a researcher in the field. And the letter L will symbolize ‘a philosophical layman.’[/size]

E: Do you mind if I talk theory for a moment?

L: No, go ahead.

E: You’ve heard the expression “to live a moral life.” What do you suppose it means? What does it mean to live a moral life?

L: I dunno. You tell me.

E: It means Be true to yourself. Shakespeare, in the year 1510, knew the truth of this. He said: To thine own self be true… Yet how does one be true to one’s true self?
By having some good principles; and living up to them ! Okay?

L: Okay. I’ll go with that.

E: Logically, the question then arises: What makes a principle a good one? How can we tell what a good moral principle is?

L: How?

E: Good question! You have a healthy curiosity!! What makes a principle a good one? Well, as I’m about to explain, it’s richer in values than other principles and it fulfills its purpose. The true self is also at once the morally good self; someone or something is morally good or right when it supports the creation of greater net value in reality, and morally bad or wrong when it diminishes or destroys net value in reality. For example,
Murder and thievery are morally wrong (“evil”) because they take away net value. Love is morally good because it adds value.

Something- anything- is good when it fulfills its purpose. So you might ask: What’s the purpose of a moral principle? And I would answer: [size=120]A good set of principles helps us live harmoniously with other people – both in our family and in society. It enables us to avoid quarrels even before they start. It shows us how to get along with other members of our human species; how to have sweeter cooperation to solve our problems.[/size] Can we agree that a principle that does that is “a good” one?

L: Yeah. I guess so. You’re telling me that[size=150] to live a moral life we need to have some high principles and put them into practice.[/size]

E: Exactly !! You get it. That’s what I mean if I use the term “morality.” Earlier I mentioned the feature “richer in value” when we were discussing how to tell the difference among principles. That’s how we tell something is better: it has more qualities than what you are comparing it with, doesn’t it? A good moral principle would have everything a moral principle should have. …It would put people first – over things and stuff. And it would give a higher priority to things and material than it would give to numbers and passing thoughts of the mind. Good principles show us which way is “up.” They help us get our priorities straight. Okay?

L: Yes.

E: You’re right. Once we have a good set of moral principles we know that all the systems and ideologies in the world aren’t worth one material thing; and all the things in the world aren’t worth one human life !
Any questions? Do you see why we should care about living a moral life? How do you feel about all this? – I’m listening……


E: So let’s go beyond theory now, and I’ll ask you a practical question:
Do you want a better quality of life than you have now? …Here’s one way to get it …

As Peter Demerest, a wise man, once told us: "“Beyond survival, the goal is to thrive – to go beyond just staying alive and to increase quality of life. Since your brain is already wired to think in terms of creating value, you’ve already got what it takes. All you need are the keys to help you take full advantage of how your brain naturally works so you make better decisions and take more effective actions more often.” I have to agree with him. He’s right.

And I would add this: If we can master our mind, perhaps we can think, learn, and act in new and better ways.

We know, in our hearts, that we can’t truly maximize the quality of our own lives unless we maximize the quality of other people’s lives as well. From this perspective, quality of life – and life itself – is not just about ‘my own narrow self’; it’s about all of us. Life is fundamentally about creating value and our conscience knows it! So let’s figure out how to create more and better value! And let’s put policies into effect that do that! What do you think?

Comments? Critiques? Concepts? Suggestions?

“This above all- to thine own self be true,
And it must follow, as the night the day,
Thou canst not then be false to any man.”

W. Shakespeare – as spoken byPolonius in HAMLET.

What of those who disagree on which is the higher principle and come into conflict due to that?

You ask: “What of those who disagree on which is the higher principle and come into conflict due to that?”

Those individuals need to dispel some possible ignorance. May I suggest they study up on BASIC ETHICS - by merely clicking on the first link in the signature below. Then they ought look up and study Katz - ETHICS: A College Course. -
hartmaninstitute.org/wp-cont … course.pdf
Then check out Ethics As Science at http://www.workforworldpeace.org/katz.htm

If, after delving into and comprehending the lessons to be learned there they have any questions, they should feel free to ask those questions here, at this site. Those questions likely will inspire new avenues of research and analysis, and will result in an improved Theory of Ethics - which inevitably will result in better policy decisions, and superior applications …finer ethical technologies.

Okay? :wink: :sunglasses:

:laughing: You kind of sound like a personal guru here. :stuck_out_tongue:

You left out the “keys”. Even guru might give us some.

Here again I am standing at the door without a key to get in. I knocked but no one answered. :angry:

This can be misleading can’t it to someone who is not such a moral person and who doesn’t question the consequences of their actions. There is a higher self-ishness that comes from being true to our own desires and voices which may serve but there is a selfishness which can destroy others
Being true to “thine own self” can simply mean to some to step all over others to get what they want. After all, they are then being true to self.
And in that way, in that regard, they are not only being false to others, since they do not “see” them, they are not even being true to their self but to their false self.
Shakespeare and others like him (possibly) may have understood what that verse meant “to them” but not all do…even disregarding the fact that from another’s point of view, when we’ve done what is true and right for us, others have seen and felt that they were wronged.

What he really meant by that was, “To thine own self by honest

Who’s Peter Demerest?

Is it possible that you didn’t knock in the right way? Did you actually go to the Peter Demerest website, and check out the lessons to be learned? Click on this link, and follow through. Then you are knocking on the right door: http://www.amindforsuccess.com

I gain no monetary benefit from the webinar, but in a sense I have a personal interest in that the life coaches who conduct it got a concept from me: They read the first section of A UNIFIED THEORY OF ETHICS, a link to which you will find in the signature below, in which I wrote a brief chapter entitled “Adding value - a central principle.” pp. 28-29. I knew that businesses prized the notion of ‘value-added’, and I made the philosophical leap of generalizing that idea to the field of Ethics. They took that concept and ran with it, building a whole set of self-improvement lessons around it that define what the (moral) concept “success” means !