A few suggestions and questions about Tyrannus

First of all, let me admit that this may be easily considered as an open ad-hom by Ty, other members and even mods. And, perhaps that would not be wrong judgement either. But, i have to say what i have to say even if it displeases some. And. i am ready to pay the price if mods see me as guilty though my only intention is to help him out by giving some suggestions.

I was thinking over and over again how i should deal with Ty. Not because i am bothered about his ideology, but about Ty himself in person and also about ILP.

I thought of engaging with him in conversation many times, and even posted one or two times in his threads too, though, for unknown reasons, he reactions were quite normal to me, in comparison to other members. But, i refrained myself by and large being engaged with him. Because, he looks to me a gone case by far, too mach damaged to be repaired.

Ty,

I do not know the reasons but you seem to be too much hurt and frustrated, far beyond the limit that a human can handle. You need an outlet for that and you chose philosophy for release. But, let me tell you that you are not meant for philosophy. No matter at which forum you ever go, sooner or later, you would be thrown out. That is going to haapen every time and the reason is very simple.

You are looking at philosophy with a complete biased mind. You mind is that much filled with your past, that it just refuses to allow anything else even to consider. Though, it is true that we all use to be biased to some extent, but at least we listen to disagreements and try to convince those. But, that does not happen in your case. You just want to force yourself bluntly on others, and also, without giving any reasoning. No philosophy forum would accept that in longer run.

But, putting negativity aside, i still see a silver lining in you and that is about your writing skill. Your writing is very impressive and you are full of ideas and emotins. Furthermore, you know very well how to express those. That is a really a rare quality. There is certainly an X factor in your writing. Use it for yourself.

Just forget about philosophy and start writing short stories and even poems. Believe me, that is your forte, not philosophy. Seeing some of your posts in creative writing, I can easily bet on your success in that field. Take a break from philosophy, sit down and just pour all that you have within you on paper. Show it to any publisher and he would tell you what your worth is. Do not waste your time on these boring discussions as all this are not meant at least for you.

I have some more suggestions for you. These are simple things but would help you to some extent. But please, do not ask me why because you are not in state of understanding.

In principle, you have to keep yourself away from hight and heat and near to water and earth.

Never live on high altitudes or even upper floors. Try to be as close to the earth as possible. And, if possible, do not sleep even on the bed, spread the mat on the floor and sleep over it.

Do not live in warm areas but prefer slight cold conditions. Take bath twice a day and that even with cold water too, if possible. Try to spend some time in swimming if there is any pool or sea shore around.

Do not eat too warm food but only when it comes down to room temperature and avoid sizzlers completely. And, avoid spicy food also. Try to have those eatables more that can be taken in cold form like ice cream, cold milk, juices, cheese, fruits, salad etc. Avoid red meat too and have fish instead.

And, very importantly, just keep away from women. You are far from being ready to have any relationship. If you try one, that would break sooner or later and would add to your frustration. You can go to professionals if feel for sex. That would not harm you.

All these little amendments would help you in life.

And also, i sincerely apologize to you for raising personal issues but that was essential to me as i am more concerned about your betterment than your opinion about me. Do not consider all this as your criticism but a sincere advice from a well wisher.

After this post, perhaps you would never engage with me. But still, my wishes are with you. May you have a great future. Good luck.

To the Mods -

Perhaps i have broken the rules and that is up to you to decide. I would accept the decision or punishment, whatever it may be. That is not the issue but i want to raise a different point.

Once again, as already discussed in many threads under the context of liberty vs restriction, to which extent a poster should be allowed to express his ideas in the name of free speech? And, even more importantly, in which manner?

I accept and agree with the concept of free speech, but, if there should be any limit or not?
Or, any personal relentless frustration and hatred towards any class or gender should also be allowed under philosophy?
And, that too without any given reasoning and not listening to counters?
Was Ty should be allowed to the extent that he went here at ILP?
Or, should he have not been stopped much earlier?
Is calling all women as bitches and whores should be allowed in the name of free speech or even philosophy?
And, let me also remind here that Ty is not the only one but there are some other posters also who have been made it a habit.
Should the words and phrases like fuck you, what a fuck, asshole, bitches, whores, prick, pussy etc be banned?
Or, they add a bit of flavor to philosophical forums?
Should there be any difference between Facebook and ILP?
Or not?

with love,
sanjay

I second that.

Oddly enough, I had a similar reaction. I don’t know what T can do, perhaps he can do philosophy, who knows?
But when I saw the creative Writing, I thought, yeah, now we’re talking. Given that I’ve been snarling at him I hesitate to say it - in case it creates the urge to do the opposite of what I say.
anyway, fiction/essay are blended these Days, postmoderns as we are by default if not by aesthetics, so there would be a market and interest in his type of stuff.
And it is a much better form to get out rage. There is a great history of extremely angry writers, not that I Think that’s the only emotion he would write from.
Anyway, I felt happy when I saw the short fiction pieces of his.

What?! Did you even read what he said? Stuart? :open_mouth:

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Moreno,

That is precisely what his problem too.

The only difference between you and him that you gave it a second thought, look for the rational conclusion and action, thus come up with the proper one.

If i am criticising him for any of his deficiency, then it is also my intellectual duty to appriciate him for his efficiencies. That is where we tend to make mistake as we let personal emotions overrule rationality.

But, for some reasons, he has become so much biased that he just cannot see anything else other than himself. And, no actual philosophy is ever possible with that much intruted mind.

On the other hand, his this very defficiency of bearing too much emotions, may convert into efficiency in litrature. It is not rocket science but a simple logic only.

with love,
sanjay

I agree with Zinnat about Tyrannus´ writing abilitites. From the time he was here as Joker, I wanted to tell him that he should be writing a novel. I don´t know precisely why I didn´t, I figured he would think of it as an insult.

If he´d manage to finish a novel I´m sure it would sell.

Ty,

You are yet to discover true yourself by a long way, though certainly trying to follow the footsteps of Joker.

You are far from being a true joker. I have seen that film and would like to advice to you to see it again in order to understand what makes a true Joker.

You are merely trying to play Joker on the net, derived by your past. You cannot be him, ever.

And, that is precisly my concern is. You are trying to play a complete negative character without being one. This is not a private discussion but a public domain. Thus, I take it as my intellectual duty to oppose any such content that may affect wrongly to those, who are not mature enough to discern good from bad, in the same way as you are inspired by Joker in that film, not Batman.

Ty, see how ambient tends to effect people! And, that is why i am objecting to your posts because they are infecting the ambient.

Do you understand that what is the very basic difference between you and Joker?

I give you one week to think and answer that. You may consult with your other like minded friends too (if there are any), if you want.

If you fail to answer even after one week, watch this thread.
I will give you an exact answer.

And, by the way, think again about my suggestion of taking writing seriously. Just leave this ambient of philosophy, it is neither suitable for you nor you are competent enough to change it.

with love,
sanjay

And if it doesn’t sell, then it is by definition has no value (in currency anyway…). There’s a fine line between “for the masses” and “of the masses”, I have a simple philosophy when it comes to buying books; if the author isn’t long dead, then it isn’t worth paying for, and of course it probably isn’t anyway.

Translation: We don’t like your thoughts or philosophy on ILP Tyrannus. GTFO.

Well, I see I’ve been striking a nerve as of late.

That feels backward to me. Why wouldn’t you want to support living authors that you’re a fan of by buying their books? What is a dead guy gonna do with that money? It’s just going into the pockets of the publishers.

That’s certainly not my wish. I enjoy reading your post and although it’s obvious to me that you have no affinity for consistent logical discipline, you do have affinity for honesty, which is a great part of philosophy. Not many here are as honest as you are.

I would not recommend to just anyone that they write a novel. That’s a great compliment, but as I predicted, you’ve taken it as an attack.

I have confidence that you will become successful at writing as there’s no way to stop you.

As I’ve said on one of your several duplicate threads about chauvinism, it’s not about your chauvinism. That’s fine. Your spam is what strikes a nerve. Presentation.

If you aspire to be the Joker, he is calculated - just as in your youtube clip. He doesn’t chaotically and impulsively throw around opinions and plans, and regularly change his philosophy. He thought very carefully and created a situation whereby he would win. His philosophy was already complete and cemented, and his execution collected into very select acts - only released once perfected. He is your opposite in this essential respect. Though not your polar opposite, you are further from Batman than you are the Joker, you just have a lot to work on - and you’re young, so no biggie.

By all means, stay, but stay and learn.
(Though as FC says, you have nothing more to learn about honesty).

I’m gonna go ahead and defend Tyrannus by saying he’s a Genius. :banana-dance:

Not only do I greatly admire his Invaluable posting content, - but I also Greatly admire his ability to stir up a Shit-Storm with nearly every thread he makes.

There’s a reason why a bunch of people always respond to the threads he makes, - and that’s because you Subconsciously want to be mind-fucked by his amazing Awesomeness. Admit it, - by the time you finish reading one of his posts, - your mind has already long been blown into little strips of Big League Chew. :dance:

So stop being a Mangina, - and man up to deal with the vulgarities that Real philosophers use on a daily basis. :violence-smack: :banana-fingers: :dance:

I agree with that Tyrannus has a rare mind, and so do many others here. I sometimes have to stop myself from declaring my superiority, but then I think about the absolute utter egotism it must take to expect someone to pay for something they write; something I doubt I would ever sink so low as to do, and so I realize I should be seen as humble by comparison. I ask no one to pay to read my work, it’d be ludicrous. I certainly want to support those who write, who think, create, etc., ect., I support them by writing along side them as more or less equals. If the person identifies themselves as one with an occupation then that’s fine, but I have no reason to respect the idea that one who’s “occupation” is to write, think, create, has any idea what it means to be a philosopher or artist.

Should one make regular payments to be married? Of course, it virtually turns out that way for many people, but we all know it’s not the ideal for what a marriage should be. A marriage should be based on old romantic notions and terms that we mustn’t try to define. Obviously the one in the marriage making no money or less money, directly, shouldn’t be thought of as one whose earning it from the one making the money directly; to be a marriage that I will regard as anything more than the sum of a piece of paper, the couple must bethought of as one.

With creativity there is no union of two people, there’s many, many people involved; money has no place in that community. There may be subsequent communities intertwined within the intellectual/creative community of people who consider each other friends or family and of course money may be lent or given as gifts, or for example I may correspond philosophically with the same person I buy my shoes from, but when it comes to the actual community held together by the ideas; there’s no place for concerns of money, it’s vile and debasing.

Ty,

You are still so much engaged with yousrelf that you are just unable to see anything else. And also, you do not pay enough attention to what others are saying, even about you. My liking or disliking for your ideology does not matter.

I very clearly mentioned in the OP that i am less concerned about your ideology than the manner you are presenting it. It is a philosophy forum, not Orkut. And, there are certain and dignified ways of saying things in philosophy. But unfortunately, you have not leant those. That is the issue. And, i am not seeing you learning either.

You can criticise anyone for sure by giving reasoning, but certainly not insult or abuse. That is the problem. There are some other posters also which are on the same page but they are not crossing the limit. So, i do not have any issues with them.

Philosophy forums are not merely about agreeing or disagreeing but discussions. And, that entails patience and a certain manner. You do not have enough patience to engage in any serious discussion with anyone. That is the problem.

To you, philosophy means just to show your stored frustated emotional baggage. That is not done. In philosophy, you have to justufy what you say. Merely hatred narrations are not enough. You have to give proper reasoning of those and also answer the coming counters. That is philosohy. Perhaps, you are not aware of this.

And, by the way, you or even some hunderds like you in totality, are just not competent enough to move me even a fraction from where i stand. If you want to try it, this thread is open for you. Let me see how far can you drag yourself with me. You would not able to do that even for some posts and become empty. Believe me, i have better idea of you than you have. Certain qualities comes with the years of experiences, not from books.

Think of that question that i asked you in the previous post and show me your intellectual capacity.

with love,
sanjay

He’s already successful at it, and I agree that no criticisms will ever stop him for obtaining more in that regard, but don’t be stuck on ill ideas such as fate or destiny; if you’d like I’ll list a few dozen ways one can die unexpectedly, just to remind you should be currently living as a yuppie.

And your older, much older, I assume. When does one lose the excuse of youth? It seems I lost it by time I was 19, but I could have regained it at 25, if I had come here, I would have been a lesser intellectual and artist than Tyrannous at that age, and even now I lack his personableness, but for all that I would have gained in pure presence as an agitator, but I’d say excuse me for my youth. Now past the age of excuses I offer none nor ask for them (nor need them, if you will believe that).

Would an inspirational quote be such as, “You’ve nothing more to learn from life after you’ve all but lost it.” I believe from what I know of him that he has barely dodged many deaths related to honesty, so I agree, and I’d know having dodged death by honesty once. But, do you and Fixed Cross know.

You guys are going to make me cry! Seriously! :frowning: I’m not ready for this ILP intervention against me. :cry:

I don’t have an addiction to ILP! I don’t have any problems or issues! :frowning: I’m fine, really! I don’t need no damn intervention! :frowning:

I don’t need any of you guys! I’m better off alone! :cry:

This is all I can do to muster up a reply for now… :stuck_out_tongue:

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But, you must realize that it is only you not anyone else that is responsible for that.

That may be true.

No. You certaily need someone to tell you what to do and not to do. Because, right now, you are just unable to do an objective self analysis. But, you need not to feel embarrassed for that as this period use to come in life of the many of us.

No, you are not and you cannot be either.

On the contrary to your perception about yourself, you are out and out social person. The main problem of you is precisely that you feel yourself alone and cheated by those around you. And, you need them back. But, as that is not happening, thus you feel that you did not get what you deserve, hence frustrated.

And, you are not alone that is facing this problem of being alone. There are millions others. This is one of biggest causes of the social unrest that we are seeing. That is why a family or a society is required.

Most people do not realize but living alone is far more difficult than in the company of others. Living alone requires a very tough mindset and discipline too but most people do not have that.

Only either a completely mad or extremely self concentrated person like mediators can live all alone.
And, you are none of them. This is not for normal persons.

Even if you leave ILP, you would have to go somewhere else, in the company or some others. The same would happen there again. Then what would you do? Leaving ILP is not the solution. On the contrary, lose some of your past or frustration and stop dragging their dead bodies with you. That would help you far more.

Do you know how many post you do in day on average? You would be surprised to know that it is more than 30. That shows how much you seek for company. On the other hand, it also shows how much extra capacity of writing you have.

You are certainly an extraordinary, but only in a certain way. So, use it in a better and positive way and for yourself. Just do not let it go carelessly.

And, follow those small things also that i told you. All that will certainly help you.

Ty, i am serious and all this is not sarcasm. I am not saying anything because i have anything against you. On the contrary, i want to prevent my surroundings from any intrusion. And, that includes both of ILP and you too.

So, take all this just an advice from a well wisher, not an enemy.

I saw the clip. So, what do you exactly want to say?

If you are saying that you represent that Fred, then whatever i said about you so far is absolutely right.

with love,
sanjay

For you Ty…

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