Thanks Prom, that’s about the first representation of ‘philosophy as a thing’ that speaks my language.
This - if I’ve boiled it down to it’s most basic - makes a lot of sense. It places a ‘philosophy’ as a parasitic (or symbiotic if we are being generous) presence which can have 2 forms - ‘dormant’ in book form, or ‘active’ in a human brain where it acts as software coding for behavioural programs in the real world.
By way of ‘mutagenesis’ we have (some) humans changing or adapting the philosophy they host before retransmitting it. Over time this would perhaps increase the robustness of a philosophy, as an initial philosophy, very open to interpretation, would tend to quickly become modified in its host-collective until it reached a point where its premises and conclusion were not easily refuted or ignored. A process of guidelines → dogma. Self-help manual → the koran.
‘Contageousness’ relies on the ease of assimilation of a particular philosophy - “the shareholders are all that matters” is more easily assimilated than “he that knows right will do right”. For example. And also the ‘phenotype’ of human host it appeals to. A philosophy that appeals to a computer-literate, naturally extrovert, socially connected, mega-rich martial-artist would spread far faster than something appealing only to penniless hermits.
‘Virulence’ would be a measure of how coercive/intolerant a philosophy might be. Nazism beats out pacifism for example, at least in the outset.
‘Selection pressure’ strikes not at the philosophy directly, but at the host collective level, if and/or when two collectives come into competition.
Nice. I’ll have to have a think. Many new things to consider.
Oddly enough, he thanks Prom here for saying something that I would say myself. Only when I say it my way he “foes” me.
From my frame of mind, it is another rendition of this:
* She has radical and continuing doubts about the final vocabulary she currently uses, because she has been impressed by other vocabularies, vocabularies taken as final by people or books she has encountered;
*She realizes that argument phrased in her present vocabulary can neither underwrite nor dissolve these doubts;
*Insofar as she philosophizes about her situation, she does not think that her vocabulary is closer to reality than others, that it is in touch with a power not herself.
Richard Rorty
And this [in my view] is just another way to approach the manner in which I construe human interactions in the is/ought world as the embodiment of dasein, conflicting goods and political economy.
And, really, how far can ironism be from nihilism? You know, for all practical purposes.
The legislative both congress and senate are on a perpetual election race. They are in a 24h duty to gather election funds. Staying in those houses is their end game, that is what they work for. They will sell themselves for anyone, anyone, who will fund their campaigns. They will only make the compromises necessary to earn them a critical amount of votes. There is no principal there, no ideology and no honor. There is only staying in the seat.
Money talks.
That is how you end up with people who are not old enough to buy alcohol, but are old enough to acquire 40 grand in debt.
All of you hipster socialite yuppies are cause of me beginning to respect prometheans hardline Marxism.
Whats sure is that Americans of today do not have the power, the integrity, to be worth these basic axiomatic rights. I don’t think a person is worth any rights of which he doesn’t respect the origin.
The Capstone to the edifice of liberty is the marker of the limit of its scope.
As this whole debacle of me having to let go much of my good will toward “humanity” at last, turns out to have been required, for this Euclidean Right thing to be understood;
what was forever missing in the Constitution, is the requirement of allegiance.
For Euclidean Rights to be granted to an individual by nature and god, these rights must be able to “self-value” in the environment of this person; the rights must keep their structural integrity. Meaning: the person has to uphold the law that gives such rights, and be committed to it by action and perhaps by oath.
The rights can not be upheld if those who enjoy them do not value them.
Thus, a free American society can only consist of people who have sworn allegiance to the Euclidean Rights.
This very society must be a capstone to the whole of humanity, thereby ordering it in a pyramid.
The philosophers eye as both heart and pinnacle of the world.
Whoever does not uphold the Bill of Rights… has no rights.
(Take England, where campaign finance laws are strict. It’s pathetic, handing out pamphlets with meaningless promises and platitudes)
Don’t blame the college system on them either. If you are going to willingly get conned, better that you pay dearly rather than like in, again, England, where they let you do it for cheap.
No. The beauty of how the US government was designed and operates is precisely how insecure, precarious any official’s position is. they are in constant fear of loosing, of overstepping, of not overstepping, of saying the wrong thing, thinking the wrong thing. Backed by the most robust law enforcement anywhere (nobody doesn’t sweat at the thought of getting investigated by the Usa). The law there is very hard to buy, and with very limited success when it is.
“They will sell themselves for anyone, anyone, who will fund their campaigns.”
This. Happens. Anywhere. it is not stopped by authoritarianism, libertarianism, definitely lol not by campaign finance law. Lol. It’s actually genius that the US makes it legal. Nobody is under any illusion as to where Biden’s money comes from, or Sanders, or why Warren insists on making a fool of herself.
Trump would not have won anywhere else. He would have been taken out one way or another by the entranched power. In the US, nobody is secure in their power. Nobody.
A thing that people, certainly people whose minds are ravaged by TDS, forget, is that Trump celebrated this intricate system of checks. Most of his early campaigning was salivating aat the thought of sitting at tables with Pelosi, with democrats, with his “enemies” to hash out deals, make compromises.
But see, there had been a trend for a while of a different kind of authoritarianism, where only certain talking points were permitted and a certain range of action, imposed by, well, people with the money and means (say, ownership of the media? or of the supposed “neutral places of learning” lololol?). Obama set a new standard for ass kissing, and Bush certainly did his part (though he doesn’t hold a candle to Obama). These people were already used to the idea of absolute power.
But the fucking founding fathers. Designed a fucking good government structure. For fuck’s sake. And they couldn’t stop Trump. And if Trump simply continues, as he has done, to play the game of US DEMOCRACY, they cannot beat him with their slimy shadow games. They don’t want to negociate? Fine, fuck them. Let them fumble like pathetic arthritis-ridden snakes with the legal mechanisms designed exactly to stop people like them. Bring it, bitches. Ready for round 10.
Yeah, he wanted to, he looked forward to negociate. but he ran into what I run into in this forum every day. Insult. But not only insult, but like, venemous insult.
but we don’t really mind that. Be like ok, fine, if that’s your way, go with the insults, but what’s next?
There is no next. Insults is where it starts, insults is where it ends. It’s not even make-a-point and insult. It’s simply insult.
You know, it’s a strategy. And it worked for a long time. But by now people are like… The president has called their bluff so many times people are like… Ohok now we get it. Ha ha! Alrighty cowboy, let’s rodeo.
And there is so much venom in the insulting, it is also clear that the fight is to the death. There will be no quarter given.
and all the president has to do… Is follow the law. Like he has been doing. Because the founding goddamn motherfucking founders bitch. Soooome, shit.
Your system of government is still fallible as fuck, and if you keep going with this MAGA, messianic shit, sooner or later the world is going to mop the floor with your asses.
